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Mounty 28 August 2014 21:16

If you like Gotek drives and A500s I think you'll be interested in this.
 
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Vot 29 August 2014 05:08

Mounty.. This is far too thick in my opinion. You should be aiming to have the case no thicker than the usb connector (maybe a few mm higher so you can have a gap between the connector and the amiga case so all usb thumb drives fit), maybe house the gotek pcb in the computer case and just put a flat ribbon through the slots in the case for the display and buttons etc. Also you could make a pcb for inside the computer to select between the gotek and the inbuilt floppy. IMHO this would add a lot more value to to your project.

Mounty 29 August 2014 08:46

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Originally Posted by Vot (Post 972855)
Mounty.. This is far too thick in my opinion. You should be aiming to have the case no thicker than the usb connector (maybe a few mm higher so you can have a gap between the connector and the amiga case so all usb thumb drives fit), maybe house the gotek pcb in the computer case and just put a flat ribbon through the slots in the case for the display and buttons etc. Also you could make a pcb for inside the computer to select between the gotek and the inbuilt floppy. IMHO this would add a lot more value to to your project.

Commments noted, but I don't think anyone would use a regular floppy if they had a Gotek installed. As for making the case smaller, it will be quite cramped inside there as it is.

Vot 29 August 2014 08:48

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Originally Posted by Mounty (Post 972868)
Commments noted, but I don't think anyone would use a regular floppy if they had a Gotek installed. As for making the case smaller, it will be quite cramped inside there as it is.

The gotek cant emulate protected discs. It only supports adf,s which have been deprotected... The hxc can however... (If your wondering why people may use real disks)

Mounty 29 August 2014 09:21

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Originally Posted by Vot (Post 972869)
The gotek cant emulate protected discs. It only supports adf,s which have been deprotected... The hxc can however... (If your wondering why people may use real disks)

Thank you.

Total Eclipse 29 August 2014 09:55

My 2p's worth - Mounty, as you say, not many people will use the internal drive if they have a Gotek installed (though I did consider the idea on an earlier posting).

What I'd be looking for, and I suspect many others, would be a replacement shell for the PCB to install it inside the Amiga and replace the internal drive completely, without having to cut the Amiga case. Any external housing could be small enough to hold the track LED and disk change buttons, but a replacement shell would mean that the USB port is accessible from the centre of the floppy drive, and everything else is blanked off. As an alternative, the disk eject button could be replaced by the two buttons on the Gotek, similar to some of the solutions suggested for the Raspberry Pi floppy emulator.

Mounty 29 August 2014 10:36

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Originally Posted by Total Eclipse (Post 972881)
but a replacement shell would mean that the USB port is accessible from the centre of the floppy drive

Why is it so important that the USB port is at the centre of the floppy drive slot? I don't get that at all.

Are you guys starting to see how difficult the life of a hardware developer can be?

Out of two people, one wants the floppy drive slot for floppy disc use, the other wants it for USB drive use?!?!

The old statement "you can't please everyone" is one of the truest statements ever made...

Total Eclipse 29 August 2014 13:07

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Originally Posted by Mounty (Post 972887)
Why is it so important that the USB port is at the centre of the floppy drive slot? I don't get that at all.

Simply because on the Amiga, the centre of the floppy slot is usually wider than the edge or more recessed, so that it should able to accommodate slightly thicker pen drives more easily.

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Originally Posted by Mounty (Post 972887)
The old statement "you can't please everyone" is one of the truest statements ever made...

:D Very true, but then there will never be a single solution that meets everyones requirements for something like this. I'm very impressed with what you're trying to do though.

DDNI 29 August 2014 13:13

For easy pen drive access, I would attach a female USB extension lead to the gotek.

Predseda 29 August 2014 13:39

I am very curious how you will create a "yellowed A500 case" colour mixture for printing plastic to fit the most remaining A500s :)

Lord Aga 29 August 2014 13:48

Mounty's on fire :) Good job !
I have several of your products on my "to buy" list.

Mounty 29 August 2014 14:50

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Originally Posted by Predseda (Post 972909)
I am very curious how you will create a "yellowed A500 case" colour mixture for printing plastic to fit the most remaining A500s :)

Ha ha good question!

I can see it now......

"Mounty, my Amiga has been in sun too long, make it more yellow."

and

"No, I looked after my Amiga and it's nearly white, make it less yellow."

Ad infinitum....

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Originally Posted by Total Eclipse (Post 972904)
Simply because on the Amiga, the centre of the floppy slot is usually wider than the edge or more recessed, so that it should able to accommodate slightly thicker pen drives more easily.

Which looks more appropriate though, a pen drive sticking out of a floppy drive slot, or a pen drive sticking out of my enclosure. Be honest...

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Originally Posted by Lord Aga (Post 972912)
Mounty's on fire :) Good job !
I have several of your products on my "to buy" list.

I am indeed on fire MiLord!

As you can see I have branched out into retro enclosures. Learning AutoCAD 2014 at my age is no mean feat, but I'm more than up for it!

ADz 29 August 2014 15:02

I'm sorry but imo that just looks too big/bulk and tbh would annoy the hell out of me being sat on the top sticking up like that.

Much better solution would be to simply create a faceplate to go over the floppy drive that has the display/buttons incorporated into it. Alternatively for people who want to keep a real drive as DF1 and have the Emu as DF0 a slimmer case then the Gotek would be nice :)

Amiga1992 29 August 2014 15:28

Why would I add this bulky thing outside if I can put the gotek drive inside???

Mounty 29 August 2014 15:57

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Originally Posted by Akira (Post 972930)
Why would I add this bulky thing outside if I can put the gotek drive inside???

Because, as others have found, putting the Gotek drive inside the case means not being able to see the numerical display, and having to press the buttons with a matchstick.

Oh, and having to crane your neck around the side of the machine to see what the display says.

The advantage with the ExoShell is everything is there in clear view. Buttons are easy to press, and when it has been properly made (injection moulding) and in the correct colour it will complement the Amiga casing very nicely.

Having said that, if you have set your mind on hating it, don't buy it! Simples!

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Originally Posted by ADz (Post 972926)
I'm sorry but imo that just looks too big/bulk and tbh would annoy the hell out of me being sat on the top sticking up like that.

Much better solution would be to simply create a faceplate to go over the floppy drive that has the display/buttons incorporated into it. Alternatively for people who want to keep a real drive as DF1 and have the Emu as DF0 a slimmer case then the Gotek would be nice :)

No apology necessary! Don't buy it!

We had this argument back in the day with the old Amiga vs Atari ST arguments.

The Amiga had a big bulky unattractive power supply brick. The Atari had the psu neatly inside the case. Did that stop people buying the Amiga?

TCD 29 August 2014 16:16

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hansel75 29 August 2014 16:18

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Mounty i think most peoples preference would be some kind of an internal setup similar to how i have my HXC mounted internally, see pic.

I do realize that it is probably harder to achieve with the gotek then it is with a hxc.

Good luck with whatever you choose!

Mounty 29 August 2014 16:48

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Originally Posted by hansel75 (Post 972938)
Mounty i think most peoples preference would be some kind of an internal setup similar to how i have my HXC mounted internally, see pic.

I do realize that it is probably harder to achieve with the gotek then it is with a hxc.

Good luck with whatever you choose!

Much more difficult with a Gotek, for reasons I explained earlier.

I had all this "initial resistance" with the Amipad32. "OH MY GOD, IT'S GOT PAINTED BUTTONS! I THINK I'D DIE IF I TOUCHED A PAINTED BUTTON!"

Since then the Amipad has been a steady seller. Why? because it's a damned good alternative to whatever else was out there. In fact I sold two today, while I've been sitting here assembling some Gotek external adapters.

It's the same with this device. Of all the people who have seen this post (probably 200 or so), only a handful of naysayers have commented. The vast majority will have had a look, and thought "mmm, I'll keep my eye on that". That's how it works.

That's why I'm not too bothered if one guy says he doesn't like this and another guy says he doesn't like that. I gave up trying to please everyone long ago. It's all about pleasing the maximum amount of customers possible, and that's what I always try to do.

Vot 29 August 2014 17:13

Mounty i still dont get it why is it so thick? The gotek pcb cant be more than 8mm high.

Amiga1992 29 August 2014 17:20

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Originally Posted by Mounty (Post 972934)
Having said that, if you have set your mind on hating it, don't buy it! Simples!

You make it sound like if I have any sort of agenda against you, which is ridiculous.

You post about something you may want to build in a public forum. If you don't want to hear the opinion of those who may want to buy your product, that's great, your choice, but don't post it in a public forum then.


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