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Hungry Horace 08 January 2008 22:34

Sinclair ZX Spectrum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gary (Post 385567)
No matter which version looks the best people can always have a laugh at the spectrum version and the spectrum owners are used to putting their heads in the sand and claiming their version to be the best regardless of reality anyway :)

any time i try to defend the speccy on EAB an arguement starts, so i wont bother.

I'll just say that you're wrong and leave it at that, without feeling the need to insult anyone to make a point, which is how most responses seem to work when such incorrect generalisations are made.

Charlie 09 January 2008 00:43

Awww, but the insults were getting quite imaginative.

caffeinekid 09 January 2008 01:01

The Spectrum was and is a fantastic machine so NER to you!

Graham Humphrey 09 January 2008 01:05

Here we go again ;)

caffeinekid 09 January 2008 01:07

What? LOL

Retro-Nerd 09 January 2008 01:09

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Originally Posted by Graham Humphrey (Post 385640)
Here we go again ;)

And i was not the one who starts another computer vs. computer fight. :laughing

caffeinekid 09 January 2008 01:19

They are all dead machines anyway so I can't see the point of fighting.

They live on in our memories though, like the Amiga. ;)

Not that it stops us having Spectrum Vs C64 slagging matches on RetroRemakes though. LOL. But it's all fun and games ('til someone loses an eye of course).

laffer 09 January 2008 01:32

I've played a few emulated Speccy games recently and I like it.. it has a certain charm to it when the sprite changes colour to whatever colour happens to be in the background :D

The Dizzy games are great on the Spectrum, going to play those on that machine someday :agree

Fred the Fop 09 January 2008 03:24

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Originally Posted by Hungry Horace (Post 385594)
any time i try to defend the speccy on EAB an arguement starts, so i wont bother.

I'll just say that you're wrong and leave it at that, without feeling the need to insult anyone to make a point, which is how most responses seem to work when such incorrect generalisations are made.

THe Speccy was a wonderful and fun computer for games. I love Speccy games. Some people may be turned off by it, but not me.

laffer 09 January 2008 03:25

I haven't used it a lot so far but I like it as well.. many cool games for the machine it seems and for some reason I actually like the graphics.

Hungry Horace 09 January 2008 03:31

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Originally Posted by Fred the Duck (Post 385680)
Some people may be turned off by it, but not me.

that's odd Fred... it seems odd not to hear you talking about being "turned on" for a change! :laughing


i much prefer it when people can say they like something that not everyone perhaps appriciates, without having to worry that certain others are gonna go out of their way to make them "justify" it (and then simply refuse to listen to the their reasoning anyway)

i'm never gonna go and argue the speccy is the worlds greatest computer, but i dont have much trouble in finding reasons why i prefer it to a lot of other popular home-computers and games-machines myself.


edit: arent we supposed to be talking about PC games? :nervous oops.

NLS 09 January 2008 09:12

Spectrum was ok. It helped A LOT in bringing up the computer generation.

It has better BASIC than my CBM64 (although you needed the fingers of a juggler both to "type" the commands and to do it on such a BAD keyboard - both the rubber and the plastic rectangular of "plus" reincarnations).

Its graphics sucked BIG time (some times it is questionable if it had better gfx than Atari 2600...).

I will never forget the common "tape loading error" near the end of loading (!) I witnessed at my friend's house waiting for minutes to load a game. I was a floppy user from day one, so this was unknown to me (the loading error - except when disks were dead - not the load times :) )...

I have to be honest though. Before I got my CBM64 (or KNEW that I'd get one), I had a 1:1 Spectrum "rubber version" photo under the glass of my study table (I was maybe 8) and... practiced typing. :)

Ah, the days...

Now comparing speccy games with Amiga games on their "common" years is unfair. Then someone would make a video of the very late Amiga years (or even of today if we consider Amiga alive through the community - or AmigaOne etc. ...) and the 2nd (or 3rd) gen PC games (after VGA with true-color was common - because remember first VGA was far from true color)... and we wouldn't like the results. (not meaning that there are not some games that never ever grasped the original Amiga feeling in any other build - but that doesn't mean anything)

BTW with early 8 bitters it was fun writing software but this doesn't show well on any youtube.

Fred the Fop 09 January 2008 09:41

Horace, then let's start or find a Speccy thread here!

NLS, nothing was gorgeous about the graphics of the ZX Spectrum, the best version of the Spectrum.
Nor were the graphics amazing for similar games for the MSX, SG-1000, ColecoVision, BBC Acorn Electron, etc.
But the grphics to me were charming and very simple. Focus on crisp, lively, very addictive gameplay.

DamienD 09 January 2008 15:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred the Duck (Post 385743)
Horace, then let's start or find a Speccy thread here!

There you go guys ;)

All Speccy discussion moved from laffer's Amiga vs. PC games comparison vid, whee thread to here.

Please be civil and respect other people's opinions though...

Hungry Horace 09 January 2008 17:33

lol, i started a thread i didnt start.


i know a lot of the "big name" conversions on the speccy ended up monochrome, but compared to more "colourful" ports on other machines, sometimes i prefered that, becuase i like clarity.

My fave example is always New Zealand Story. which compared with the C64 version actually looks better imho with less colours, and handles a lot more like the brilliant amiga version. (which has a hidden speccy message on th title screen btw... maybe the two version shared development?) the C64 version, i'm sorry to say is dog ugly if you ask me.

there are many better games however, made with the ZX in mind, that worked extremely well within the obvious limitations.

killergorilla 09 January 2008 17:37

The spectrum was made up of old ET carts.

Retro-Nerd 09 January 2008 17:46

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Originally Posted by killergorilla (Post 385857)
The spectrum was made up of old ET carts.

And they buried tons of it in the desert. :laughing

http://www.keithschofield.com/et/

DDNI 09 January 2008 17:48

3000th post retro... Congrats!

Mick_AKA 09 January 2008 17:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla (Post 385857)
The spectrum was made up of old ET carts.

:lol

Retro-Nerd 09 January 2008 17:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDNI (Post 385860)
3000th post retro... Congrats!

Oops, didn't noticed that. :D


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