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bladecgn 01 December 2013 14:50

Kick 3.0 -> 3.9 via LoadModule / LoadResident possible?
 
I am wondering if you have all the individual modules for Kick 3.9 (from RomSplit + WB3.9), would it be possible to update an Amiga 1200 with 3.0 rom to Kick 3.9 just by LoadModule and/or LoadResident?

Would this use less memory than a softkick of a complete 3.9 kickstart (created with Remus) as not all Modules are new in Kick 3.9 compared to 3.0?

Sandro 02 December 2013 02:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by bladecgn (Post 924375)
I am wondering if you have all the individual modules for Kick 3.9 (from RomSplit + WB3.9), would it be possible to update an Amiga 1200 with 3.0 rom to Kick 3.9 just by LoadModule and/or LoadResident?

Would this use less memory than a softkick of a complete 3.9 kickstart (created with Remus) as not all Modules are new in Kick 3.9 compared to 3.0?

why you want those new modules? rom updates are not necessary to run OS3.9
you can run OS 3.9 on kickstart 3.0 you don't need loadmodule or loadresident

FOL 02 December 2013 02:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandro (Post 924471)
why you want those new modules? rom updates are not necessary to run OS3.9
you can run OS 3.9 on kickstart 3.0 you don't need loadmodule or loadresident

No you can't. OS3.9 will only work with KS3.1.
Using 3.0 will result in a blank screen.

You may be able to get away with updated WB library, but I have never bothered trying.

Bamiga2002 02 December 2013 07:16

If you softkick 3.1 kickstart then you'll be able to use 3.9. I've done this in the past before I got physical 3.1 roms.

Sandro 03 December 2013 01:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOL (Post 924472)
No you can't. OS3.9 will only work with KS3.1.
Using 3.0 will result in a blank screen.

You may be able to get away with updated WB library, but I have never bothered trying.

yes OS3.9 works on kickstart 3.0, I have it runing even no softkick to 3.1
patchlibrary simple command in the startup sequence transform all libraries to v40
OS 3.9 was done to work only on kick 3.1 for marketing purposes to sell romkits and the stock of Escom A1200+kick3.1

something like Microsoft did , they never realesed directX10 for windows XP to sell windows vista

bladecgn 03 December 2013 05:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandro (Post 924585)
yes OS3.9 works on kickstart 3.0, I have it runing even no softkick to 3.1
patchlibrary simple command in the startup sequence transform all libraries to v40

Where can I get this pachlibrary command? IS the BoingBag2 ROM update also possible with this?

emufan 04 December 2013 22:09

clauddio made a posting with attached patchlibrary.
i did not tested this myself, but if its working with 3.9 then it should with all the boingbags aswell.

clauddio got banned?

Jope 06 December 2013 10:07

It's also on Aminet http://aminet.net/package/util/misc/patchlibrary

S0ulA55a551n 06 December 2013 13:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandro (Post 924585)
yes OS3.9 works on kickstart 3.0, I have it runing even no softkick to 3.1
patchlibrary simple command in the startup sequence transform all libraries to v40
OS 3.9 was done to work only on kick 3.1 for marketing purposes to sell romkits and the stock of Escom A1200+kick3.1

something like Microsoft did , they never realesed directX10 for windows XP to sell windows vista

Pretty sure some things will not work correctly or at all without 3.1 roms though. Colourwheel gadget from memory ?

TCD 06 December 2013 14:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by emufan (Post 924857)
clauddio got banned?

clauddio was another duplicate account created by laser.

Retro1234 06 December 2013 15:12

loading module gadtools has also been recommended

bladecgn 28 September 2017 23:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bamiga2002 (Post 924481)
If you softkick 3.1 kickstart then you'll be able to use 3.9. I've done this in the past before I got physical 3.1 roms.

Could you tell me how you did it or (even better) show me your startup-sequence?

nogginthenog 29 September 2017 18:47

Plain 68020 CPU? I think the only option is skick.

I use skick on my (MMU-less) A4000/30. Can't show you the startup-sequence as she is sick and waiting for me to do a recap.

bladecgn 30 September 2017 07:17

Well I hope she's on her way to recovery! :)

Yes, plain 68020.

I can use skik wit the -nopatch option to got from 3.0 -> 3.1. Yet it doens't survive reboot and LoadModule / SetPatch brings the system to consntant reboots.

I am really interested in a way to softkick from 3.0 to 3.9 bb2.

McTrinsic 30 September 2017 09:55

So the question is how to make the skick (or whatever) resident, right?

bladecgn 11 October 2017 17:30

Yes, I guess so...

But I am wondering if someone here ever managed to softkick from 3.0 to 3.9 BB2 without using a special accelerator board with maprom feature....

Or did it by using LoadModule oder SetPatch


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