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Retro-Nerd 10 September 2010 15:10

Individual Computers - New accelerator cards for A600 & A1200
 
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ndividual Computers: New accelerator cards for Amiga 600/1200?
Jens "Paradroid" Schönfeld from Individual Computers is developing new accelerator cards for Amiga 600- and 1200-computers. An officual announcement or confirmation is still not available but obviously three different models are going to be published in December:
  • A1200: 56 Mhz, 64 MB RAM, about 199 Euro
  • A1200: 28 Mhz, 64 MB RAM, about 99 Euro
  • A600: 25 Mhz, 32 MB RAM

According to Jens Schönfeld the main focus is a fast memory access. Therefore all boards will not include a FPU.

Besides, the boards will also not have a jumper or other preferences. You can only add a clock.

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Nice, especially the price for the 28MHz card. :)


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Cammy 11 September 2010 04:56

I'm looking forward to that A600 accelerator most of all. :)

Fabie 11 September 2010 05:26

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Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd (Post 699002)
[URL="http://www.a1k.org/forum/showthread.php?t=23088"]

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Nice, especially the price for the 28Hz card. :)

the second accelerator it seems should be a 020/28 mhz like the ones on the TRA1200 turboboard or the blizzard 1220 turbo ....
are faster than the 030/25


btw, I wonder what kind of cpu is the 56mhz...maybe a 030/50 overclocked to 56?

desiv 11 September 2010 05:49

No, I'm sorry. You have to tell him no, he can't do that..

You see, we just had this long discussion here about 1200 expansions, and it was generally accepted that you couldn't do a low cost RAM board or low end Accelerator..

So, I found an 8Meg RAM board that is on it's way. :banghead:banghead

Now, I'm hearing about 64M RAM board and accellerator for around $130 USD?

I'm sorry...

Tell him no.. Or just have him re-price it to $250 USD....

That would make me feel better..

desiv

mfletcher 11 September 2010 06:54

Hotdiggity! *drools*

squidbass 11 September 2010 08:20

Any idea when they're available? This is awsome news...

mihcael 11 September 2010 08:25

From what i undertsand...

Nothing is guranteed to be produced at this stage

All the CPU's are not new, but the card will be!
They will not contain an FPU.

The cards are all 030.
030 28mhz may go for as little as 89 euro

I think he expects the the 030 28mhz may be as fast as traditional 030 50mhz, due to very fast RAM and no FPU. Already showing better then 2/3 of the speed.

mihcael 11 September 2010 08:26

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Originally Posted by squidbass (Post 699213)
Any idea when they're available? This is awsome news...

He did mention christmas time was near, but again he hasnt confirmed he will indeed produce them.

kriz 11 September 2010 09:27

jens is the Fucking KING of Amiga hardware.. All salute the King.. WOW !!

:bowdown:bowdown:bowdown:bowdown:bowdown:great

fitzsteve 11 September 2010 10:02

I read about this yesterday, is indeed awesome news :great

Retro-Nerd 11 September 2010 11:17

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Originally Posted by Fabie (Post 699207)
the second accelerator it seems should be a 020/28 mhz like the ones on the TRA1200 turboboard or the blizzard 1220 turbo ....
are faster than the 030/25

Jens uses SDRAM. I'm sure this new 28MHz 030 card is fast as hell. btw: Hardware details aren't final. All cards are PCMCIA friendly.

Fabie 11 September 2010 11:49

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Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd (Post 699228)
Jens use SDRAM. I'm sure this new 28MHz 030 card is fast as hell. btw: Hardware details aren't final. All cards are PCMCIA friendly.

sincerely I don't believe that the TUrboboards will be fast cause SDRAM...maybe a little but not very much
and now I think that Jens will use 030/25 overclocked to 28mhz and 030/50 overclocked to 56mhz
it seems that it's the maximum overclock possible for those 030

daxb 11 September 2010 12:28

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Originally Posted by Fabie (Post 699236)
and now I think that Jens will use 030/25 overclocked to 28mhz and 030/50 overclocked to 56mhz
it seems that it's the maximum overclock possible for those 030

It has something to do with systemclock 14MHz x 2 and 14MHz x 4. However, Jens is working on it and time will give more information/facts.

Zetr0 11 September 2010 12:52

well according to motorola / freescale

The 020 has a theoretical limmit of 3MIPs at 14Mhz -
the 030 at that speed will be pretty much the same - as there is very little difference.

one could expect a 28mhz 030 to achieve 5.5mips - the only thing slowing this would memory latching timmings - SDRAM would aleviate most of the delay that DRAM sufferes from - however there is a physical maximum the CPU can actually do at a said frequency.

Now, an 030@56 with SDRAM would be interesting in performance terms - I think it could achieve a good 10 / 11 MIPS

however in terms of the Amiga, this is only half the story - as it will need "quick write to chip and read from chip" - this would be down to the motherboard - as A1200 mobo revision will differ quite a bit - this will be the speed breaking point of the accelerator. as far as I know the APollo 030 - 060 cards are the faster chip-write cards (nearly 10% faster than the blizzards) however this is a trade off as we have found these cards can have compatability issues with certain motherboards (namely 2B and 1D.4)

This is very iteresting news from Jens - I look forward to the realease of these products especially how he achieves this on the A600 030 design =)


I just hope he can release them and it doens't got the way of the A630 project- as these products would indeed be a great boon to the community.

If Jens is reading: Some extra features in time for Christmas =)

Please Santa-Jen's - could I have one of the following made into my Accelerator card

1. An onboard 10mbit Network card
2. An onboard Fast IDE or SCSI
3. An MP3 decoder (possible MP4 ?)
4. An onboard Graphics card? - perhaps an FPGA implemenation of a Voodoo3?
thanks Santa!

alexh 11 September 2010 13:29

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Originally Posted by Zetr0 (Post 699253)
an FPGA implementation of a Voodoo3?

Heh, funniest thing I've read in a long time

Skope 11 September 2010 13:57

What he should add on the cards is an L7-interrupt switch saving people who wants one having to manhandle their mobos with a soldering iron.

Edit: Forgot to mention how much I appreciate someone actually taking the time to design and produce turbo boards for Amigas these days. ;)

AlfaRomeo 11 September 2010 14:00

Awesome news :greatI would be interested in A1200 56MHz and A600 28MHz
as all others Individual products, they would certainly be great products :agree

Zetr0 11 September 2010 14:00

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Originally Posted by alexh (Post 699281)
Heh, funniest thing I've read in a long time

lol, most people wouldn't get that joke.... it would seem I dont have such a singular wit afterall lol...


besides.... we all know Jen's love FPGA's =D

Predseda 11 September 2010 23:12

Zetr0, will the new A600 accelerator collide with our beloved A608, the eternal evergreen? :cheese

alexh 12 September 2010 00:54

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Originally Posted by Predseda (Post 699479)
Zetr0, will the new A600 accelerator collide with our beloved A608, the eternal evergreen? :cheese

It will replace it should either ever see the light of day.


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