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FREEMILK 04 January 2021 18:37

https://www.canakit.com/raspberry-pi...puter-kit.html

this is what i bought and , Kipper you are correct, it is just turn key and awesome, and just swap the Sd and you can do other things with it, also portable, and there is a cartridge 40 pin on the back, so resembles a C64 or amiga 600. cant go wrong with this.

manossg 04 January 2021 18:42

The pi4, while I love it, is just an emulator at the end of the day. The V4 is an awesome, real Amiga, it is great for stuff that targets powerful machines, but it still has some way to go regarding compatibility for classic Amiga software (especially AGA titles). Having said that, compatibility is constantly improving.

kipper2k 04 January 2021 18:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by manossg (Post 1450719)
The pi4, while I love it, is just an emulator at the end of the day. The V4 is an awesome, real Amiga, it is great for stuff that targets powerful machines, but it still has some way to go regarding compatibility for classic Amiga software (especially AGA titles). Having said that, compatibility is constantly improving.


I won't get drawn into bashing anything. I am just letting the thread know of the options available. And whether a specific platform is compatible or a work in progress

Forgot to mention. The "Pistorm" is also a new option and open source. That is a Pi in an Amiga which makes it quite a nice amiga

TuKo 04 January 2021 18:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by kipper2k (Post 1450715)
name dropping does not change the facts. I think people can see the differences. Put them side by side. The V4 is in the same class as mister and pi

Nothing factual there. Looks just like bashing to me.

kipper2k 04 January 2021 18:50

please explain tuko. ? the v4 is an amiga on an fpga... the pi and mister are the same. "computer on a board" If fpgas hasd been available in the 80's then of course all computers would have been made differently

SuperFuryAnimal 04 January 2021 18:51

Pi is software emulation, Mister isnt software emulation

kipper2k 04 January 2021 18:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperFuryAnimal (Post 1450727)
Pi is software emulation, Mister isnt software emulation

ahh, they crammed all the amiga chips in there, sorry, i must be mistaken

grond 04 January 2021 18:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by kipper2k (Post 1450720)
I won't get drawn into bashing anything.

Actually you did by calling the V4 an emulator:

Quote:

Originally Posted by kipper2k (Post 1450693)
A Pi4 running Amiga is the same as a V4. it is an emulator.

Funny for a person that built many of the first Vampire cards and is now involved in a competing FPGA Amiga project.

TuKo 04 January 2021 18:55

If Pi is the same as MiSTer then I guess a child could be same as a midget also.

manossg 04 January 2021 18:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by kipper2k (Post 1450725)
the v4 is an amiga on an fpga... the pi and mister are the same.

Pi is fpga?

SuperFuryAnimal 04 January 2021 18:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by manossg (Post 1450731)
Pi is fpga?


No it is not

kipper2k 04 January 2021 18:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by TuKo (Post 1450730)
If Pi is the same as MiSTer then I guess a child could be same as a midget also.



so which is cheapest, fastest and most compatible ?

kipper2k 04 January 2021 18:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by TuKo (Post 1450730)
If Pi is the same as MiSTer then I guess a child could be same as a midget also.


So which is fastest cheapest and most compatible? Ultimately i am talking about performance and pricing

manossg 04 January 2021 18:58

Ah, ok, I should have seen the anti-vampire, pitchfork wielding mob approaching.

grond 04 January 2021 18:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by kipper2k (Post 1450734)
So which is fastest cheapest and most compatible?

Don't know about cheap and compatible but most children run faster than midgets.

SuperFuryAnimal 04 January 2021 18:58

Although this has been fun and before people fall out, can we get back to what i started this thread for in the first place, the vampire v4 standalone??

Ernst Blofeld 04 January 2021 18:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by kipper2k (Post 1450720)
Forgot to mention. The "Pistorm" is also a new option and open source. That is a Pi in an Amiga which makes it quite a nice amiga

I had not heard about the PiStorm before. I've now had a quick look at it on github. Would love to know more.

dreadnought 04 January 2021 19:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by TuKo (Post 1450730)
If Pi is the same as MiSTer then I guess a child could be same as a midget also.

Lol, ok. But if V4 is a "real" Amiga, then how come it doesn't play all the real Amiga games?

It amazes me that both sides can't see how surreally pointless these arguments can get.

kipper2k 04 January 2021 19:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ernst Blofeld (Post 1450738)
I had not heard about the PiStorm before. I've now had a quick look at it on github. Would love to know more.

I think the original question was of comparison to an amiga, I wanted to let people know of the options available.

The Pistorm was created by Claude Schwarz he does have a twitter page so you can keep track there. I am not sure but he may be part of the Apollo team

FREEMILK 04 January 2021 19:05

i guess the main difference isnt speed, as the v4 and mister basically have the same brand FPGA, and the PI is a ARM. One is a closed source board, the other 2 are open do what you want with them boards.

for the price the Pi400 totally wins, if your just wanting to hook up to HDMI tv and play some games. and i dont know what a V4 costs and if they are even available, but a mister all setup is more then a pi400.


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