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Amiga Options
I'm evaluating options for some friends to get into the Amiga scene. Buying classic hardware on eBay is not an option (its way too expensive).
Here is what I've come up with: Standalone FGPA Options
SoC Solutions:
What option would you guys recommend to someone interested into getting into the Amiga? I'm leaning toward the new MISTer project, as there seems to be a lot of potential for growth there. |
There's one more option, the FleaFPGA OHMBoard:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/f...oard-arduino#/ You are trying to introduce someone new to the Amiga, right? Wasting a ton of caash on something they might not even enjoy would be silly. I'd back the FleaFPGA project, or if you can't wait, Raspberry Pi with Amiberry. If they like it, they can upscale. However you said "classic hardware is too expensive', yet all your FPGA options were over $150. You can get an A1200 for $150 (not on eBay of course), but I get it, you are in the US, and over here it seems Commodore stuff is made of gold or something, prices compared to Europe are shit. It's usually cheaper to import a unit from Europe instead. |
Raspberry-pi will cover all bases and is cheap. Following ultimate Amiga setup then WHDload is easy, as is rtg screens etc and productivity.
I use uae4arm on an Nvidia shield, and amiberry on the pi. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk |
No need to puchase anything; just use WinUAE :p
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FPGA is the future, although it's a very expensive present. I've not invested yet nor shall I while prices are this high. However, it's the only way that the Amiga market can evolve and, in the long run, the only way of keeping the Amiga alive. As is, the FPGA is too expensive and still somewhat in the early stages of development. Price, though, is the main obstacle (IMO). There's no guarantee that it will ever go down, though...
You seem to have the SoC solutions well defined and thought out. But for me, there's still no replacement for the real thing. However, due to price inflation, a real A1200 + accelerator board are still an expensive investment (in the excess of 300€). A much cheaper alternative, is to go for DamienD's suggestion. Have an old computer (Pentium IV or up) in the garage without any use? Plug it in, configure FS-UAE or even WinUAE (my personal favourite fork of UAE) and boot to AmigaOS. Alternatively use something like Amilator or AmiKit. This is the most inexpensive way, though purists will say that it's just a "pretend" Amiga. Ultimately, it's up to you to figure out whatever gives your boat the best float. For me, it's still the good, old REAL Amiga. |
What are you basing the Vampire V4 speeds from? It's not currently out and the core development is still on going... Actually where are you basing any of these performance numbers from?
Gold 2.7, then 3.0 should be a big boost in performance for the existing V2 cards as well. |
Yeah those figures are bogus.
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The rest of the speeds were taken from videos on Youtube of running SysInfo on the respective systems. If they are wrong, please let me know what the correct speeds are. |
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Amilator for PC is way faster than any RPi or Vampire. I would say around 10 times faster than a Vampire on Intel Core i5. Maybe around 100x speed of A3000.
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Personally I'm more interested in the Vampire cards that accelerate current classic hardware than the standalone. |
@gururise - Mjurney just published some Amiga32 coverage, some sysinfo numbers and quake timedemo from the Vampire V2 with the next beta core. So with the V4, think bigger:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpRUVGM8R7s |
What is your goal here? What do you want to do with the setup?
With the FPGA things you don't get the "real" experience (compared to original hardware), yet they are expensive and not particularly convenient (compared to UAE). If I had to choose one of the "hardware imitation" options I'd take the Raspberry Pi 3 since it's cheap, but frankly, if used with a generic keyboard and mouse it's not going to be much different from just running emulation on a PC (or Mac or whatever). In my opinion it would at least need to be built into an Amiga case to be worthwhile. |
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If you guys just want to run existing Amiga stuff faster, then have at it with Emulation. The Apollo Team is attempting to making something new, which seems to be a sin to some of the people here. |
That's fine, but it's a very small subset of the scene. I was interested in hearing what the original poster wants to do with the Amiga. Any advice we can give really depends on what those expectations are. Most commonly, people joining these forums simply want to play old games from their childhood and many of these listed systems are over-specced for just that.
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ajk was talking to the OP and asked HIM what HE wanted to do with the setup, which is an excellent question. |
I think an A600+furia 020 would be a brilliant ~150-200€ entry point if you don't mind missing some AGA stuff.
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An A600 would be a rare sight to find in the US too, and there are no alternatives to eBay, places like Craigslist have actually even stupider prices. Best bet is Amibay and hope to find an US seller (most people are not), and second best case scenario is, as I said, import it from Europe: buy from Euro Amibay user, pay a ton of shipping, and it still will be cheaper than US prices. |
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Accelerator: 110€ Total around 260€. |
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