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honx 20 August 2019 15:57

adoom or doomattack?
 
i'd like to play doom1, doom2 and additional stuff for these on amiga.
so which solution should i prefer? adoom or doomattack? what's better?

DanyPPC 20 August 2019 17:17

DoomAttack is a little fast on AGA

AMIGASYSTEM 20 August 2019 17:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by honx (Post 1340192)
i'd like to play doom1, doom2 and additional stuff for these on amiga.
so which solution should i prefer? adoom or doomattack? what's better?

I used them both DoomAttack has some more options (DoomAttack prefs) in my old video you can see them both at work.

https://youtu.be/Qe_TnUAc95w

honx 20 August 2019 22:16

as i can't find it in readme of doomattack, do i need only .wad files from gog's ultimate doom and doom 2 / final doom? and how can i set up doomIIevolution and doomIIplutonia which i have seen in your video?

btw. does your installation of descent (a folder seen in your video) work? i never found a working one, i never could play it on amiga. :(

roondar 20 August 2019 22:19

I can confirm that the .WAD files for both Ultimate Doom and Doom II from GOG work with DoomAttack and Adoom. I did not test Final Doom, nor the Doom II 'master levels'.

AMIGASYSTEM 20 August 2019 22:37

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Originally Posted by honx (Post 1340299)
as i can't find it in readme of doomattack, do i need only .wad files from gog's ultimate doom and doom 2 / final doom? and how can i set up doomIIevolution and doomIIplutonia which i have seen in your video?

To play with Doom2 TNT (Ivilution), Doom 2 Plutonia does not need any option just copy "TNT.WAD", or "Plutonia.WAD" to the Doom2 folder where Adoom and DooAttack were installed, in this folder there must not be "Doom2.WAD"" if present Doom2.WAD" you have to delete it or it will start instead of TNT or Plutonia.

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btw. does your installation of descent (a folder seen in your video) work? i never found a working one, i never could play it on amiga. :(

Yes many years ago on my A4000/060 I had Descent (with PC Data) working, now I try to find it.

AMIGASYSTEM 21 August 2019 17:02

Here's my Descent that works on Amiga OS3 (no Audio):


https://youtu.be/xoqMcOuGa8o

honx 21 August 2019 18:48

i never got it working. :( i really would like to play it on amiga!

AMIGASYSTEM 21 August 2019 19:16

I'll send you a PM, it's my version of Descent from many years ago, the Amiga engine is an old ADescent version that seems to work better than the latest ones.

ADescent was my A4000/040 set for a low resolution RTG 8bit if you do not work delete the file config and in this way various the request to set your resolution.

If you have a different CPU you can download the various ADescent engines on Aminet (not tested):
http://aminet.net/search?query=ADescent0

ADescent requires considerable resources on an AGA system, on an RTG system it is very fast as shown in my video

- Ixemul.library V47.3
- Ixnet.library for Networking
- AHI
- FPU

honx 21 August 2019 19:35

thx, i'll try that! does ixemul.library v48.0 work as well? it seems to be the latest version.
http://aminet.net/package/util/libs/ixemul-48.0
and do i need ixnet.library, if i'm not going to use networking? because this one i can't find on aminet.

AMIGASYSTEM 21 August 2019 19:57

ixnet.library is located in the archive of the link you attached

zipper 21 August 2019 20:38

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Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM (Post 1340434)
Here's my Descent that works on Amiga OS3 (no Audio):

Audio works just with old AHI (v4?) afair.

honx 21 August 2019 20:51

is there a way to switch between ahi versions without having to uninstall new ahi version and install old ahi 4.x version?

xubidoo 21 August 2019 21:55

Doom Attack is much more playable on an 020 or 030 than adoom, tried both and stuck with Attack as it runs much faster, can run it fullscreen albeit in low detail on my tf330, but not played it that much, so it may suffer on levels that have a lot of monsters

Seiya 22 August 2019 01:11

for my experiende with 68030 and 68040 Doom1 is playable with decent speed (not good) on 68030@50 mhz a part the fourth episode that is not playable. Too slow. Doom 2 is out on 68030.
With 68040 you can play good Doom1 and decent speed Doom2.
With 68060 Doom, Doom 2 and Final Doom run excellent!

NovaCoder 23 August 2019 04:55

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Originally Posted by Seiya (Post 1340567)
for my experiende with 68030 and 68040 Doom1 is playable with decent speed (not good) on 68030@50 mhz a part the fourth episode that is not playable. Too slow. Doom 2 is out on 68030.
With 68040 you can play good Doom1 and decent speed Doom2.
With 68060 Doom, Doom 2 and Final Doom run excellent!

Yep for DOOM 2 you really need an 060 :agree

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lHsnJBwEEA

honx 23 August 2019 19:18

i'm trying to install doomattack right now, beginning with doom 1. first of all, i need to start doomattack from cli because i have to set stack to 20000 using cli "stack" command. it does not work changing stack size in file information of doomattack. second, if i stay too long in game menu without starting doom, it quits, cli window shows error: "Error: W_GetNumForName: HELP2 not found!" i copied doom.wad into doomattack/data folder. what else do i need? in order to get it working properly?
//edit: adoom in comparison does not quit with this error and i can start it directly from workbench without tampering with cli and this stack command. for adoom i also only used doom.wad from pc version, nothing else. so i think, i'm gonna stick with adoom.

btw.: although i use doom.wad from gog, where i purchased the complete ultimate doom, i only see 3 episodes, not 4. where is episode 4?

daxb 23 August 2019 20:19

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Originally Posted by honx (Post 1340893)
i need to start doomattack from cli because i have to set stack to 20000 using cli "stack" command. it does not work changing stack size in file information of doomattack. second, if i stay too long in game menu without starting doom, it quits, cli window shows error: "Error: W_GetNumForName: HELP2 not found!"

Use a start script to set stack and start the game. Here it works. I guess the demo tries to start when you get the error. Read the docs. Maybe you have some missing files or in the wrong directory.

honx 23 August 2019 20:39

guide says: "...start doomattack from workbench by double-clicking doomattack_clickme icon..." there is no "doomattack_clickme" icon at all. it's the archive from aminet... and due to my not very good english, these installation instructions are very hard to read anyway (why is there never any german guide available?)... i'll stick with adoom, there are no errors at all and i don't have to mess with instructions which i obviously misunderstand...

//edit: i had to rename doom.wad to doomu.wad in order to get episode 4...

AMIGASYSTEM 24 August 2019 00:14

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Originally Posted by honx (Post 1340904)
guide says: "...start doomattack from workbench by double-clicking doomattack_clickme icon..." there is no "doomattack_clickme" icon at all. it's the archive from aminet...

Maybe it's a small archive in fact all the icons are missing, you can download the icons and much more in this archive:

http://aminet.net/game/shoot/DoomAttack-AIO.lha

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//edit: i had to rename doom.wad to doomu.wad in order to get episode 4...
There are two different files, DOOM.WAD is the original 3 episodes, DOOMU.WAD is Ultimate Doom with the 4th episode.


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