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Shoonay 21 June 2019 14:35

EA & Epic's Surprise Mechanics
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJlWr5Ss0Cw

gimbal 21 June 2019 14:45

Just like lies are alternative truths :)

Shoonay 21 June 2019 18:52

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSyUgTCIkA0

Anubis 21 June 2019 19:41

Ahhh, that makes it all clear....

They are not called any more loot boxes...

Who knew??

jmmijo 21 June 2019 19:57

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Originally Posted by Anubis (Post 1328554)
Ahhh, that makes it all clear....

They are not called any more loot boxes...

Who knew??

Here is where things get confusing for some, due to name changes perhaps the powers that be will no longer see this as gambling :lol

As for me, I really don't have any issues with Loot Boxes, it is up to the consumer to purchase them, however, many games do not properly disclose this is the only real issue and the money making machine that it is, well this is intended so you can see where the politicians are trying to make it more obvious ?!?

005AGIMA 24 June 2019 05:00

It's like the whole Skins thing....if the consumer is stupid enough to pay for them, and that makes the game FREE for me.....then great.

What is becoming annoying is when the game is NOT free to play, and requires a full price purchase up front and THEN there are additional paid content that gives player advantage....well now it's pay to win and I'm not interested.

But then after years of "online multiplayer only" gaming, I've come full circle and favor single player story-line to be honest, so it doesn't affect me.

Better not say that too loud or it will be "season pass required" to progress to level 2.

*sigh*

No wonder I fired up the Atari Flashback last night ;)

gimbal 24 June 2019 09:02

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Originally Posted by jmmijo (Post 1328558)
As for me, I really don't have any issues with Loot Boxes, it is up to the consumer to purchase them

I would agree with that if games were aimed at adults, they can be as retarded as they want to be. But this affects games for kids too.

Ian 24 June 2019 10:03

I operate a surprise mechanic on their games too. Am I going to pay or not. Hmm, not. SURPRISE.

jmmijo 24 June 2019 10:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimbal (Post 1328959)
I would agree with that if games were aimed at adults, they can be as retarded as they want to be. But this affects games for kids too.

True that, this is where things can become difficult.

But if parents wanted to be sure their kids knew up front what to watch out for they would be monitoring their children instead of letting games be the babysitters that so many allow them to be :sad

gimbal 24 June 2019 13:40

On the other hand it just pisses me off that what used to be a pretty harmless bit of media has now been infected by aggressive sales tactics. The worst thing that parents had to worry about in my youth is if games were fit for my age or not, nowadays you have to worry if a game is going to make your kid addicted :/

Or you, for that matter.

jmmijo 24 June 2019 18:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimbal (Post 1329005)
On the other hand it just pisses me off that what used to be a pretty harmless bit of media has now been infected by aggressive sales tactics. The worst thing that parents had to worry about in my youth is if games were fit for my age or not, nowadays you have to worry if a game is going to make your kid addicted :/

Or you, for that matter.

Yes but it all falls to the gamer at this point to educate themselves.

The game devs/pubs want to make money and this huge cash cow is making them money so why would they want to change it any.

Anubis 24 June 2019 20:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmmijo (Post 1329041)
Yes but it all falls to the gamer at this point to educate themselves.

The game devs/pubs want to make money and this huge cash cow is making them money so why would they want to change it any.


Sure, and gambling (and addiction that follows) is the way they are doing it, but they just don't want to admit it...

One of MMO RPGs I played had wheel of fortune... and people would spend large sum of money just for possibility to win some cool game items otherwise not purchasable in item store... Of course, I only played free runs we all got for holidays, since I was f2p, but imagine p2w players and amount of cash that went through that...:cheese

jmmijo 24 June 2019 21:45

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Originally Posted by Anubis (Post 1329062)
Sure, and gambling (and addiction that follows) is the way they are doing it, but they just don't want to admit it...

One of MMO RPGs I played had wheel of fortune... and people would spend large sum of money just for possibility to win some cool game items otherwise not purchasable in item store... Of course, I only played free runs we all got for holidays, since I was f2p, but imagine p2w players and amount of cash that went through that...:cheese

Indeed, I've heard of these kinds of game mechanics in some F2P games.

Anubis 25 June 2019 13:33

Yep, they are all called surprise mechanism... :cheese

jmmijo 25 June 2019 18:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anubis (Post 1329182)
Yep, they are all called surprise mechanism... :cheese

I guess i'm one of those that live within their budgets, I wasn't always this way but I learned to do it properly over the decades.

Plus not much of a gambler, I do play the local lottery from time to time with a $2 quick pick set of numbers.

I've been to Vagas a few times, but mostly to see some acts like Tom Jones.

It's Not Unusual to me :cheese


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