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XsamX1987 09 September 2019 01:05

The best Monitor to use with Indivision 1200 AGA MK2cr ?
 
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So I ended up with a HP Compaq LA1951G 19inch 5:4 aspect ratio DVI

I am using trixters Config/setting file that he provided

I will include pictures of my screen, 2 colors all the way up to 256 the sweet spot for my system is around 32-64 anything higher and it slows my machine right down.
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Hello Every one

Ok so I just have a few questions what is the best to use with my Indivision 1200 AGA MK2cr

am I looking for An aspect ratio of 5:4 or 4:3

Hz 50 60 75

17 inch or 19 inch or more

VGA or DVI

does it matter what Brand Ben Q Dell and so on


anyway if anyone can help that would be great :)

Krashan 09 September 2019 10:38

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Originally Posted by XsamX1987 (Post 1344449)
Ok so I just have a few questions what is the best to use with my Indivision 1200 AGA MK2cr

If you want to have full size image, pixel exact, without borders, go for 1280×1024 display. It means 17" or 19" with 5:4 ratio. DVI input is a must, as it gives you full control over image parametrs. Brand is not that important, I have used Dell, AOC, Samsung...

XsamX1987 09 September 2019 11:19

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Originally Posted by Krashan (Post 1344488)
If you want to have full size image, pixel exact, without borders, go for 1280×1024 display. It means 17" or 19" with 5:4 ratio. DVI input is a must, as it gives you full control over image parametrs. Brand is not that important, I have used Dell, AOC, Samsung...

Brilliant thank you :)

trixster 09 September 2019 13:20

Some lcd monitors cannot handle 50hz correctly, so you get stutter or tearing on scrolling.

As an example, my dell 2001fp works fine with no stutter with the Mk2cr at a refresh rate as close to 50hz as I can get it, but my Viewsonic vp2030b does not.

XsamX1987 10 September 2019 02:10

Ok so I should look for a monitor with an aspect ratio of 5:4 and that can handle 50hz ?

XsamX1987 10 September 2019 02:23

I think I might have found one what about a Compaq HP LA1951G 19" LCD Monitor?

XsamX1987 11 September 2019 22:34

Ok I so I'm just going for it just ordered off eBay, I think it should be ok 19inch DVI 5:4 it says 60hz but if I go to the manufacturer's website says I can take it down to 50hz :)

madlax 11 September 2019 22:51

Let us know how this monitor worked out for you. I might get one for myself it it works well

XsamX1987 11 September 2019 23:03

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Originally Posted by madlax (Post 1344996)
Let us know how this monitor worked out for you. I might get one for myself it it works well

No problem will do, should have it by the weekend, I will post with pictures as well so you can see how it looks, fingers crossed :)

Krashan 12 September 2019 11:13

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Originally Posted by trixster (Post 1344509)
Some lcd monitors cannot handle 50hz correctly, so you get stutter or tearing on scrolling.

Indi AGA has no sync to Amiga vertical blanking, so getting 50 Hz is moot point. I've done some experiments. For example managed to get 50.014 Hz refresh, but then scroll tearing was more noticeable than for frequencies between 55 and 60 Hz. This is because for 50.014 one gets around 75 frames in sync, then one frame is repeated twice, which is easily detected by human eyes and brain. For 55 Hz every fifth (or sixth) frame is repeated, which surprisingly gives better overall experience.

XsamX1987 12 September 2019 11:36

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Originally Posted by Krashan (Post 1345058)
Indi AGA has no sync to Amiga vertical blanking, so getting 50 Hz is moot point. I've done some experiments. For example managed to get 50.014 Hz refresh, but then scroll tearing was more noticeable than for frequencies between 55 and 60 Hz. This is because for 50.014 one gets around 75 frames in sync, then one frame is repeated twice, which is easily detected by human eyes and brain. For 55 Hz every fifth (or sixth) frame is repeated, which surprisingly gives better overall experience.

Thank you for explaining, so from what your saying i think i should be ok with my purchase :)

trixster 12 September 2019 14:07

Krashan, I don't doubt what you're saying, but i have found that different monitors handle the AGA2's lack of sync differently. My Dell 2001fp (the pre Jun 2005 models) for instance will produce absolutely zero stutter or tearing with horizontal or vertical scrolling with refresh set to 50.024hz. Good games to test this are pinball dreams and Jim Power.

XsamX1987 13 September 2019 20:19

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Originally Posted by madlax (Post 1344996)
Let us know how this monitor worked out for you. I might get one for myself it it works well

OK, so it looks good I am very happy but have to press auto to adjust every time I turn on my amiga

It might just be a setting I have to change but I don't know

and I have no idea how to change the setting to lower the Hz currently set at 60

Will update with pictures later :)

trixster 13 September 2019 20:57

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=78685&page=4

Post #78 on this thread, I give some instructions on how to set up the IndiAGA 2 config

And here is my settings file, it might be useful:

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...5&postcount=73

XsamX1987 14 September 2019 23:14

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Originally Posted by trixster (Post 1345328)
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=78685&page=4

Post #78 on this thread, I give some instructions on how to set up the IndiAGA 2 config

And here is my settings file, it might be useful:

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...5&postcount=73

Very kind of you i have a few days off in the week look forward to working on it :)

XsamX1987 20 September 2019 19:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by trixster (Post 1345328)
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=78685&page=4

Post #78 on this thread, I give some instructions on how to set up the IndiAGA 2 config

And here is my settings file, it might be useful:

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...5&postcount=73

Hello

Ok so I have been having a go today, games play really nicely from boot but i am having a few problems I have made a little video and I will include a few pictures of my settings, hope you might have an idea :)

https://vimeo.com/361339124

trixster 20 September 2019 21:46

When you say problems, what do you mean? The video doesn’t really explain what the problems are

XsamX1987 21 September 2019 01:08

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Originally Posted by trixster (Post 1346781)
When you say problems, what do you mean? The video doesn’t really explain what the problems are

Ok well, about 35 seconds in when I move an icon the picture screws up and it looks like it resets goes black and then displays what its running at, and if I open any folder its weird the screen kind of flashes. and when it first boots up is the wallpaper supposed to take that long to display/load?

trixster 21 September 2019 10:11

Not sure about the icon and the resetting, but the slowness could be down to trying to use too many colours. Do you have an accelerator? Running lots of colours in WB is very slow even on a ‘fast’ A1200 at higher resolutions as the chipset does not have enough bandwidth. I have an 060 and find 256 just too slow.

800x600 at 32, maybe 64 is ok
1280x1024 at 16 is ok

XsamX1987 21 September 2019 19:52

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Originally Posted by trixster (Post 1346862)
Not sure about the icon and the resetting, but the slowness could be down to trying to use too many colours. Do you have an accelerator? Running lots of colours in WB is very slow even on a ‘fast’ A1200 at higher resolutions as the chipset does not have enough bandwidth. I have an 060 and find 256 just too slow.

800x600 at 32, maybe 64 is ok
1280x1024 at 16 is ok

yes i have a ACA 1233n 40MHz with 128MB

That makes sense

i will give that a go :)


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