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WildW 18 November 2018 12:21

A1200 HD LED constant flashing
 
Hi folks. . .strange one this. A1200 + 8MB fast ram, and yesterday I swapped out my hard disk for a CF card. I followed a guide to format the card with PFS3 file system instead of FFS, and then just copied over my existing DH0 contents to the card.


I'm noticing now that I have the hard disk LED constantly flashing while I'm playing games, at points where I'm sure you wouldn't normally see any disk access. e.g. in the middle of a level in Lemmings, Populous 2, and others. It does seem to be in every game, and I'm sure it wasn't doing this before the change. I'm sure I have enough ram that I shouldn't be constantly loading game data.



The LED does go out when just sitting on the Workbench screen. Wondering if it's somehow related to the PFS3, and if maybe it's slowing the computer down. Hopefully it's only reading and not writing. . .

Riempie 18 November 2018 13:41

Try to remove the jumper(s) from the ide 2 cf adapter (if there are any) and see if it keeps flashing. I removed mine and it practically solved the 'problem'. I believe this led flashing is 'normal' with certain adapters..

WildW 19 November 2018 11:41

I'm not 100% sure but I don't think the adapter had any jumpers on it - it's one of the rear-panel ones from Amigakit. Now I think about it, I had one of these before and didn't see this happening, but perhaps the design has changed. I guess I may try formatting another CF card and see if it does the same thing.

FOL 19 November 2018 13:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildW (Post 1285960)
I'm not 100% sure but I don't think the adapter had any jumpers on it - it's one of the rear-panel ones from Amigakit. Now I think about it, I had one of these before and didn't see this happening, but perhaps the design has changed. I guess I may try formatting another CF card and see if it does the same thing.


Its quite common. Some motherboards, react differently with certain adapters and CF cards. If I use Kingston CF in my A1200, light stays on all the time (still flickers when active). If I switch to my original sandisk from 2006, it works perfectly.

patrik 05 January 2019 15:04

@WildW:
It is strange that it only happens during games.

What the other people described sounds more like the normal issues you can get different adapters and cards because how the A1200 LED circuit works in combination with incorrectly designed adapters/cards.

The /ACTIVITY pin on an IDE-bus is supposed to be a active low shared pin - pulled high to +5V by a resistor and driven to ~0V on activity by open collector/drain drivers in the IDE devices. The open collector/drain drivers will only let current flow when driving the signal low, which is why it can be shared by several devices.

The A600/A1200(/A4000) IDE activity LED circuit is controlled by a transistor which will start lighting the LED at ~5V-0.7V=4.3V. On the motherboard, there is also the required 10kOhm pullup resistor to +5V.

There are several different devices which causes problems with the above LED circuit, where it is always lit or always flashing rapidly.

Examples:
- The newer version of the IDE<->SD-card-adapters has a 3.3V push-pull driver (incorrect choice, not even safe for it to share the pin with other device) for the /ACTIVITY signal which will overpower the 10kOhm pullup resistor on the motherboard completely and the signal will be at ~3.3V when inactive and ~0V when active. For more details on how to fix this, see:
http://megaburken.net/~patrik/Amiga%...D%20LED%20Fix/

- SATA/mSATA<->IDE-adapters usually has the correct open drain/collector driver for the /ACTIVITY signal, but for some reason has a 10kOhm pullup resistor to +3.3V. This will fight with the motherboard +5V pullup resistor and cause the signal to end up somewhere between 5V and 3.3V (4.3V) when inactive - more or less exactly around the level where the motherboard transistor will light the LED, making it flicker rapidly.

Remove this resistor to solve the problem: backtrace the /ACTIVITY pin (pin 39) on the adapter to find the resistor connected to the onboard 3.3V supply at the other end.


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