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1988 23 June 2012 18:28

The Turbo Imploder
 
Looking for this tool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MNz2ribmos

Wasn't this on a "famous" utility disk?

Thanks!

BarryB 23 June 2012 19:07

You can download from Aminet:

http://aminet.net/search?query=imploder

Frog 24 June 2012 07:49

if you prefer the music of the 3.x version you can find it HERE

TjLaZer 14 July 2018 08:23

seems odd, but the music does not work on my Amiga 1200 or 4000. Must be a bug?

chip 14 July 2018 08:33

Perhaps it works ONLY during compression ? :blased

Genju 14 July 2018 09:34

Possibly a silly question, but have you tried hitting right amiga+M to turn on the music? Seems like some versions of Imploder default to the music being off.

chip 14 July 2018 11:59

Music is off by default, but i tried to activate it by the menu and no success :(

Toni Wilen 14 July 2018 16:35

I have noticed same, music plays in some WB setups, but in some it only works when booted without startup-sequence. I haven't bothered to check what causes it.

Don_Adan 14 July 2018 23:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by TjLaZer (Post 1254170)
seems odd, but the music does not work on my Amiga 1200 or 4000. Must be a bug?

If you have 68040/68060 CPU and perhaps SetPatch activated, then no sound. But music routine works. 68040/68060 problem for Future Player soundformat is related to byte writing volume values to dff0a8/b8/c8/d8 registers. Correctly is word writing, but byte writing works too for most Amiga original configs.

Mrz 15 July 2018 11:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don_Adan (Post 1254313)
If you have 68040/68060 CPU and perhaps SetPatch activated, then no sound. But music routine works. 68040/68060 problem for Future Player soundformat is related to byte writing volume values to dff0a8/b8/c8/d8 registers. Correctly is word writing, but byte writing works too for most Amiga original configs.


please note that also on my A1200 the music in imploder not works regardless if setpatch is activated or not
some programs and games are very sensible to clock issues
and some A1200 have severe clock issues like mine

and some accelerators add clock issues


another software very sensible to clock issues is


batman the movie : don't work on my A1200
arabian nights : don't work
soccer kid AGA : game works but music not works


etc

Don_Adan 15 July 2018 17:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrz (Post 1254370)
please note that also on my A1200 the music in imploder not works regardless if setpatch is activated or not
some programs and games are very sensible to clock issues
and some A1200 have severe clock issues like mine

and some accelerators add clock issues


another software very sensible to clock issues is


batman the movie : don't work on my A1200
arabian nights : don't work
soccer kid AGA : game works but music not works


etc

You have A1200 without 68040/68060 turbo card? If yes, then perhaps you have damaged timer CIA-A or CIA-B in your A1200.

TjLaZer 15 July 2018 20:13

Yes my 1200 has a 68040 and my A4000 has 68060.

Mrz 16 July 2018 02:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don_Adan (Post 1254427)
You have A1200 without 68040/68060 turbo card? If yes, then perhaps you have damaged timer CIA-A or CIA-B in your A1200.


I don't have a 040 or 060 I have a 28mhz 020 accel (TRA1200)


and yes perhaps there is some problem on those CIAs
also I thought that it could be the 28.37516MHz oscilator which is buggy or not very accurate



what do you think?

Don_Adan 16 July 2018 13:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrz (Post 1254555)
I don't have a 040 or 060 I have a 28mhz 020 accel (TRA1200)


and yes perhaps there is some problem on those CIAs
also I thought that it could be the 28.37516MHz oscilator which is buggy or not very accurate



what do you think?

Do you have same problems without TRA1200 accelerator too?

Mrz 17 July 2018 18:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don_Adan (Post 1254648)
Do you have same problems without TRA1200 accelerator too?


yep, is a motherboard clock problem
99% of the games and software works fine
but a few games not work or there is no music
note that all games done by Krysalis don't work or the music not works

it seems all krysalis game uses same engine which is sensible to clock issues

StingRay 17 July 2018 19:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrz (Post 1254996)
it seems all krysalis game uses same engine which is sensible to clock issues


They indeed all use the same low-level code which handles interrupt/timer settings etc.

hexaae 28 August 2022 22:15

Isn't there an Imploder fix for music player routines for 060+ faaast Amigas? :)

Don_Adan 28 August 2022 22:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by hexaae (Post 1561821)
Isn't there an Imploder fix for music player routines for 060+ faaast Amigas? :)

If you know a few knowledge, how Amiga exe file can be edited then you can try to fix this problem for 68040/68060. Exactly replace all byte volume access(es) from $dff0a8/b8/c8/d8 to $dff0a9/b9/c9/d9. You can check Future Player replayer source code. If no other problems related to timers handling it can be enough for 68040/68060.

DisasterIncarna 29 August 2022 01:25

or just play the Imploder.fp tune via hippoplayer or something :D

koobo 29 August 2022 06:30

EaglePlayer and HippoPlayer should be able to handle both the Imploder3 and Imploder4 tunes. Hippo uses Wanted Team's (Don Adan's?) Future player adaptation (Imploder3 tune), the Medley Sound replayer code I lifted from the Imploder4 binary, where the buggy volume setting looks like:
Code:

MOVE.B        0(A0,D0.W),8(A1)


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