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terexuk 05 May 2011 12:33

classicwb adv wont boot with 030 card in ?
 
hi,
I have installed classicwbadv onto hd but it wont play ball with my 030 card

starts too boot but then just stops at a black screen . The card is fine with a normal w/b install and when i take card out classicwb loads fine ???

Anyone have any ideas :help

FOL 05 May 2011 12:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by terexuk (Post 753963)
hi,
I have installed classicwbadv onto hd but it wont play ball with my 030 card

starts too boot but then just stops at a black screen . The card is fine with a normal w/b install and when i take card out classicwb loads fine ???

Anyone have any ideas :help

Boot with no startup, then type;

set echo on
execute s:startup-sequence

It will let you see what its loading before crashing.

terexuk 05 May 2011 13:38

hi fol,
thanks for the reply, just done that and its guruing now when it gets to Fblit (tried a couple of times )

FOL 05 May 2011 16:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by terexuk (Post 753978)
hi fol,
thanks for the reply, just done that and its guruing now when it gets to Fblit (tried a couple of times )

Try commenting out "fblit"
Put a ; infront of it via "ed s:startup-sequence".
In the sequence, you will find the fblit line.

Then do the same, echo on etc etc.

terexuk 05 May 2011 23:10

commented fblit out , it now gets to "intuition is trying to reset workbench etc" then wont go no further

do all the classicwb use fblit?

FOL 05 May 2011 23:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by terexuk (Post 754089)
commented fblit out , it now gets to "intuition is trying to reset workbench etc" then wont go no further

do all the classicwb use fblit?

When it says "intuition is trying to reset blah blah", what happens when you press "cancel". Whats the last thing it loads before getting to that requester?

terexuk 05 May 2011 23:22

pressing cancel just leaves the startup seq on screen , last thing it trys to load is c:caprefs

FOL 05 May 2011 23:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by terexuk (Post 754092)
pressing cancel just leaves the startup seq on screen , last thing it trys to load is c:caprefs

Try commenting that out then, :).

It sounds like something in the startup-sequence, doesnt like your card.

terexuk 06 May 2011 00:30

yes i understand where your coming from but at this rate ill be down to a barebones wb ,:D for instance as i understand it fblit takes away some operations from the blitter chip and uses the cpu to allow use of fast ram which would be quite useful. By commenting out certain bits of the startup seq i am concerned that i am just setting false flags just to get it too boot which is not what i intended
Hope this make sense and really appreciate your input :great

FOL 06 May 2011 00:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by terexuk (Post 754108)
yes i understand where your coming from but at this rate ill be down to a barebones wb ,:D for instance as i understand it fblit takes away some operations from the blitter chip and uses the cpu to allow use of fast ram which would be quite useful. By commenting out certain bits of the startup seq i am concerned that i am just setting false flags just to get it too boot which is not what i intended
Hope this make sense and really appreciate your input :great

Yeh I understand, but lets get it booted first, :).
You will then know exactly what things dont work, and look into it from there.

Should have asked first, what Amiga are you running this on?

terexuk 06 May 2011 00:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOL (Post 754110)
Yeh I understand, but lets get it booted first, :).
You will then know exactly what things dont work, and look into it from there.

Should have asked first, what Amiga are you running this on?

Yes of course your right , specs are a1200 ,030 card with 8mb of ram ,6gb hd with 500mb wb partition and 3 partitions split between the rest all below 2gb

terexuk 06 May 2011 09:34

ok, can now boot to workbench :D but icons are garbled and just a plain blue background
Tried to open classact prefs but that gurued the machine:crying

so any ideas :help

fitzsteve 06 May 2011 09:36

@terexuk

Does your 030 card work if you boot from a Workbench floppy?

terexuk 06 May 2011 09:55

yes will boot from floppy and also boots from hd using std wb install just classicwb is having problems

FOL 06 May 2011 10:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by terexuk (Post 754159)
yes will boot from floppy and also boots from hd using std wb install just classicwb is having problems

What type of card is it?

terexuk 06 May 2011 10:24

its a A1200 MTec T1230/28 RTC Accelerator Card 8MB RAM

just out of interest the hd ran fine in winuae with same settings :banghead

fitzsteve 06 May 2011 10:29

Its very strange indeed as I used to have the very same card and ran Classic Workbench without issues.

As you're using >4gb did you patch the SCSI.Device? I wonder if this causes some issue with the M-Tec, do you have a CF-IDE or smaller HDD you can try?

All the best,

Steve.

FOL 06 May 2011 10:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitzsteve (Post 754164)
Its very strange indeed as I used to have the very same card and ran Classic Workbench without issues.

As you're using >4gb did you patch the SCSI.Device? I wonder if this causes some issue with the M-Tec, do you have a CF-IDE or smaller HDD you can try?

All the best,

Steve.

Good point, if RDB aint setup right, that could cause wierd problems too.

terexuk 06 May 2011 11:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitzsteve (Post 754164)
Its very strange indeed as I used to have the very same card and ran Classic Workbench without issues.

As you're using >4gb did you patch the SCSI.Device? I wonder if this causes some issue with the M-Tec, do you have a CF-IDE or smaller HDD you can try?

All the best,

Steve.

didnt patch the scsi.device. i have other drives knocking about and also a cf card . I think i will go back too square one using a new drive/cf card and see how things go. cyberdruid has translated the manual back into english (it was in german) so i can check the jumper settings and suchlike.
Fitzsteve can you remember what settings you were using on card ie: the card at the moment is set to use async instead of 28/14mhz is this correct ?
Anyways thanks for the help so far both of you much appreciated :great i will keep you updated on any progress, if not keep an eye on the marketplace :laughing

fitzsteve 06 May 2011 11:45

Hey terexuk, no probs at all!

Firstly if you're using a HDD >4gb you need to patch the SCSI.Device as the default A1200 SCSI.Device only supports up to 4gb, this could be causing an issue. However if you have a smaller drive (or better still a CF for ease of setup) give that a try :)

I don't remember what the settings were for on my old M-Tec, but I took this picture, and these are the settings I used:

(click to see large image)

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...h_IMG_7221.jpg


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