Alien Breed Problem

john4p · 22 June 2008, 11:53

I just watched a vid of Alien Breed and Alien Breed II on Youtube. The games don't seem to have a scoring system and thus aren't suited for competition, are they?

If no, I suggest a poll where we can choose between X/Z-Out, Lotus and Pinball (place counts shouldn't be considered because if Alien Breed is invalid people would have voted very differently!).

Graham Humphrey · 22 June 2008, 11:57

I'm pretty sure they do have scores - you just don't see them until it's game over. There is a high score table if I remember rightly. I'll check properly later...

TCD · 22 June 2008, 13:09

Hi john,

it's like Graham said : You don't see the score while you play, but the score is counted and displayed on the game over screen. You can also view the highscores from the main menu. Here is a screenshot with the highscore table :

john4p · 22 June 2008, 13:30

Ah, okay - thanks!

Graham Humphrey · 22 June 2008, 13:35

Actually you can see the score during the game too - but only if you log on to the terminals and choose 'Statistics'.

john4p · 22 June 2008, 13:40

But with its infinitely respawning enemies do you think this game is really suited for competition? I mean I can imagine there will be a very thin line between playing correctly and score leeching...

Graham Humphrey · 22 June 2008, 13:47

You do have limited ammo however (obviously you can collect more, and buy more too as long as you have enough credits) so you can't really do that unless you fancy running out of ammo really quickly

Otherwise it would have been a problem.

TCD · 22 June 2008, 13:48

Thanks for the info Graham. It's been some time since I played Alien Breed for the last time. The computer terminals are a cool feature in Alien Breed and the Pong game is just hilarious

mailman · 22 June 2008, 15:08

Which Alien Breeds are we going to play? AB, ABSE'92, AB2 or ABTA?

Graham Humphrey · 22 June 2008, 15:18

I think you need to have a look in the voting thread my friend

Although when it comes to Alien Breed 2, I think the ECS and AGA versions are actually a bit different to each other. I had a look on AMR and it appears that the AGA version has more enemies on screen compared to the ECS version and therefore is more difficult. I've just briefly been playing both versions myself and maybe it's just my imagination but the AGA version is a lot harder - there's definitely more going on...

mailman · 22 June 2008, 16:09

OK, got it

Sorry for bothering...

TodaysForgotten · 29 June 2008, 05:16

Unfortunately, for those who do not score 10,000 or more - will not have a score to submit.

blade002 · 29 June 2008, 08:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham Humphrey

I think you need to have a look in the voting thread my friend

Although when it comes to Alien Breed 2, I think the ECS and AGA versions are actually a bit different to each other. I had a look on AMR and it appears that the AGA version has more enemies on screen compared to the ECS version and therefore is more difficult. I've just briefly been playing both versions myself and maybe it's just my imagination but the AGA version is a lot harder - there's definitely more going on...

If this is the case, what shall we do ?.. stick to only the ECS version of AB2 or do we all have access to AGA machines and AGA through emulation??

Just for sake of it though, AB2 is easier than part 1. I could NEVER finish part one, but found myself finishing part 2 back in 93 because it really was far more playable, and that was the AGA version. Actually i haven't played any Alien Breed game ( apart from AB3D ) since 93, so this certainly will be a bit difficult.

How are we going to work this?

TCD · 29 June 2008, 08:35

Hi blade,

this is what Graham have written in the thread for Alien Breed 2 :

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham Humphrey

- Use the ECS version only.

So we have to use the ECS version, but I think it's not much of a difference. I don't know, but is it a problem to play the ECS version on a AGA machine?

blade002 · 29 June 2008, 08:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

So we have to use the ECS version, but I think it's not much of a difference. I don't know, but is it a problem to play the ECS version on a AGA machine?

Narr, the ECS version of AB2 should work fine, but i just have one problem!... i don't have the ECS version on my machine and my CD Rom software on my A1200 is all up the shit because my Workbench install is also all up the shit ( has been for a long time ) and i don't really have time to fix it up.

And the only way i can transfer files as big as ADF's or WHDLoad games to my HD are through a CD ..

..

looks like i will need to spend some time getting it all going properly again...

mailman · 29 June 2008, 08:56

How about using disks and CrossDOS to read them? I do it sometimes. If files are big you need to split and join them but it is not impossible.

TCD · 29 June 2008, 08:57

Looks like you are a bit out of luck recently blade

I really hope you can solve this problem and that it's not to stressful. Until then you can at least play Alien Breed right?
Good luck mate!

Graham Humphrey · 29 June 2008, 11:54

It is a small difference between the two versions but obviously it can be a significant one, given the nature of the competition - we couldn't really play both as it's won't exactly be a level playing field. I can't imagine there being too many situations like this but it's not as if you don't get a chance to vote for the AGA version...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham Humphrey

If a game comes in ECS and AGA versions, please state if you want to play the AGA version or not in your vote. If you don't specify we will assume you want the ECS version. If that game wins the vote we will count up the number of ECS and AGA votes and go for the version with most votes - unless the two versions of the games are exactly the same gameplay-wise, then we will use both.

Anyway Blade, hope you get your problems sorted out soon!

22 June 2008, 11:53	#1
john4p Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 2,742	Alien Breed Problem I just watched a vid of Alien Breed and Alien Breed II on Youtube. The games don't seem to have a scoring system and thus aren't suited for competition, are they? If no, I suggest a poll where we can choose between X/Z-Out, Lotus and Pinball (place counts shouldn't be considered because if Alien Breed is invalid people would have voted very differently!).

22 June 2008, 11:57	#2
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 26 Posts: 9,699	I'm pretty sure they do have scores - you just don't see them until it's game over. There is a high score table if I remember rightly. I'll check properly later... __________________ The EAB/Lemon Amiga Super League \| Round 7 - Risky Woods Lemon Amiga is now on YouTube and Facebook!

22 June 2008, 13:09	#3
TCD Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 35 Posts: 22,637	Hi john, it's like Graham said : You don't see the score while you play, but the score is counted and displayed on the game over screen. You can also view the highscores from the main menu. Here is a screenshot with the highscore table : __________________ "I am Polka and that's why I don't like accordions" - CrazyOne, April 2013

22 June 2008, 13:35	#5
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 26 Posts: 9,699	Actually you can see the score during the game too - but only if you log on to the terminals and choose 'Statistics'. __________________ The EAB/Lemon Amiga Super League \| Round 7 - Risky Woods Lemon Amiga is now on YouTube and Facebook!

22 June 2008, 13:47	#7
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 26 Posts: 9,699	You do have limited ammo however (obviously you can collect more, and buy more too as long as you have enough credits) so you can't really do that unless you fancy running out of ammo really quickly Otherwise it would have been a problem. __________________ The EAB/Lemon Amiga Super League \| Round 7 - Risky Woods Lemon Amiga is now on YouTube and Facebook!

22 June 2008, 13:30	#4
john4p Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 2,742	Ah, okay - thanks!

22 June 2008, 13:40	#6
john4p Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 2,742	But with its infinitely respawning enemies do you think this game is really suited for competition? I mean I can imagine there will be a very thin line between playing correctly and score leeching...

22 June 2008, 13:48	#8
TCD Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 35 Posts: 22,637	Thanks for the info Graham. It's been some time since I played Alien Breed for the last time. The computer terminals are a cool feature in Alien Breed and the Pong game is just hilarious __________________ "I am Polka and that's why I don't like accordions" - CrazyOne, April 2013

22 June 2008, 15:08	#9
mailman Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Warsaw/Poland Age: 34 Posts: 1,988	Which Alien Breeds are we going to play? AB, ABSE'92, AB2 or ABTA?

22 June 2008, 15:18	#10
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 26 Posts: 9,699	I think you need to have a look in the voting thread my friend Although when it comes to Alien Breed 2, I think the ECS and AGA versions are actually a bit different to each other. I had a look on AMR and it appears that the AGA version has more enemies on screen compared to the ECS version and therefore is more difficult. I've just briefly been playing both versions myself and maybe it's just my imagination but the AGA version is a lot harder - there's definitely more going on... __________________ The EAB/Lemon Amiga Super League \| Round 7 - Risky Woods Lemon Amiga is now on YouTube and Facebook!

22 June 2008, 16:09	#11
mailman Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Warsaw/Poland Age: 34 Posts: 1,988	OK, got it Sorry for bothering...

29 June 2008, 05:16	#12
TodaysForgotten Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Jersey USA Age: 32 Posts: 392	Unfortunately, for those who do not score 10,000 or more - will not have a score to submit.

29 June 2008, 08:56	#16
mailman Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Warsaw/Poland Age: 34 Posts: 1,988	How about using disks and CrossDOS to read them? I do it sometimes. If files are big you need to split and join them but it is not impossible.

29 June 2008, 08:57	#17
TCD Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 35 Posts: 22,637	Looks like you are a bit out of luck recently blade I really hope you can solve this problem and that it's not to stressful. Until then you can at least play Alien Breed right? Good luck mate! __________________ "I am Polka and that's why I don't like accordions" - CrazyOne, April 2013

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