Amiga web browsers and transparent PNGs

squirminator2k · 28 December 2006, 20:02

Ahoy chaps.

We're currently working on a new layout at Dream17. We're very intent on using transparent pNG files for a lot of the snazzy stuff we'd like to do, but I am ashamed to say that none of us have Amigas that can get onto the Internet. Consequently, none of us know if they display properly in any of the Amiga's browsers (ABrowse, et al.).

Can someone let me know? If it doesn't work is there a workaround?

hipoonios · 28 December 2006, 20:07

Even IE have problems with transparent PNGs. Why dont use .gif? or is 256 colors not enough?

ps. i know how hard is it to code so it looks good in Amiga browsers.

squirminator2k · 28 December 2006, 20:09

I like PNGs. And I use Firefox, so it's not a big deal. We have an IE workaround we intend to implement anyway, but it's just making sure those of you who browse using Amigas can still view the site as intended.

As much as I like GIFs (I love the pixel effect error diffusion gives an image when you reduce the colours) we're trying to "gloss it up" and make it easier to navigate.

hipoonios · 28 December 2006, 20:16

I just did a test. Transparent PNG works great in Ibrowse 2.4

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squirminator2k · 28 December 2006, 20:17

What about Alpha-transparency? Have a look at this - http://stuff.benpaddon.co.uk/concept2.png

That;'s a very, very early concept so don't take it as the final layout just yet, but the white bit with the purple fade at the top and bottom is transparent. How does that show in ABrowse?

hipoonios · 28 December 2006, 20:20

The file you linking too, dont work

hipoonios · 28 December 2006, 20:34

Ok it worked if i copy and pasted the link in the location bar.

The site layout looks nice. Simple and clean.

I use Paintshop Pro 7.x to make transparently gifs/pngs. Try that if you dont have already.

squirminator2k · 28 December 2006, 20:37

Ah, that's my fault - forgot to add EAB to my allowed referrers list.

Glad you like the new layout. We're working on the new design now. Probably won't be up before the new year but we're aiming for some time over the next couple of months.

Photon · 04 January 2007, 11:07

Unrelated: I had a hard time reading that font (titles/buttons). And I'm a badass reader

squirminator2k · 04 January 2007, 13:14

We do get emails to that effect on occasion. The new version of the website has text links and will be generally a lot nicer.

28 December 2006, 20:02	#1
squirminator2k Dream17 / Jump Leads guy Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Los Angeles Age: 27 Posts: 184	Amiga web browsers and transparent PNGs Ahoy chaps. We're currently working on a new layout at Dream17. We're very intent on using transparent pNG files for a lot of the snazzy stuff we'd like to do, but I am ashamed to say that none of us have Amigas that can get onto the Internet. Consequently, none of us know if they display properly in any of the Amiga's browsers (ABrowse, et al.). Can someone let me know? If it doesn't work is there a workaround? __________________ PortsCenter ● Dream17

28 December 2006, 20:07	#2
hipoonios Amiga Master 2000 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sweden Age: 35 Posts: 374	Even IE have problems with transparent PNGs. Why dont use .gif? or is 256 colors not enough? ps. i know how hard is it to code so it looks good in Amiga browsers. __________________ Recorded Amiga Games \| Recorded C64 Games

28 December 2006, 20:09	#3
squirminator2k Dream17 / Jump Leads guy Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Los Angeles Age: 27 Posts: 184	I like PNGs. And I use Firefox, so it's not a big deal. We have an IE workaround we intend to implement anyway, but it's just making sure those of you who browse using Amigas can still view the site as intended. As much as I like GIFs (I love the pixel effect error diffusion gives an image when you reduce the colours) we're trying to "gloss it up" and make it easier to navigate. __________________ PortsCenter ● Dream17

28 December 2006, 20:16	#4
hipoonios Amiga Master 2000 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sweden Age: 35 Posts: 374	I just did a test. Transparent PNG works great in Ibrowse 2.4 . __________________ Recorded Amiga Games \| Recorded C64 Games

28 December 2006, 20:17	#5
squirminator2k Dream17 / Jump Leads guy Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Los Angeles Age: 27 Posts: 184	What about Alpha-transparency? Have a look at this - http://stuff.benpaddon.co.uk/concept2.png That;'s a very, very early concept so don't take it as the final layout just yet, but the white bit with the purple fade at the top and bottom is transparent. How does that show in ABrowse? __________________ PortsCenter ● Dream17

28 December 2006, 20:20	#6
hipoonios Amiga Master 2000 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sweden Age: 35 Posts: 374	The file you linking too, dont work __________________ Recorded Amiga Games \| Recorded C64 Games

28 December 2006, 20:34	#7
hipoonios Amiga Master 2000 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sweden Age: 35 Posts: 374	Ok it worked if i copy and pasted the link in the location bar. The site layout looks nice. Simple and clean. I use Paintshop Pro 7.x to make transparently gifs/pngs. Try that if you dont have already. __________________ Recorded Amiga Games \| Recorded C64 Games

28 December 2006, 20:37	#8
squirminator2k Dream17 / Jump Leads guy Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Los Angeles Age: 27 Posts: 184	Ah, that's my fault - forgot to add EAB to my allowed referrers list. Glad you like the new layout. We're working on the new design now. Probably won't be up before the new year but we're aiming for some time over the next couple of months. __________________ PortsCenter ● Dream17

04 January 2007, 11:07	#9
Photon Oldskool Demo Coder Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hult / Sweden Age: 41 Posts: 3,680	Unrelated: I had a hard time reading that font (titles/buttons). And I'm a badass reader __________________ Henrik. Programs Amiga demos, iPhone apps, websites, etc. A1000/512k - A500 2.0/040@28/4M/.5M slowmem/8M/SCSI/CF - A600 portable II 3.1/ACA630/WiFi/CF - 'A1700' 3.1/68060@80/64M/IDE-Fix Express/CF - etc."The difference between PC and Amiga is that 10yo PCs are worth $0. 20yo Amigas are worth a lot, and Amigas that are only 15yo cost a fortune!" If you like Portal 2, try my >> single player and cooperation maps <<

04 January 2007, 13:14	#10
squirminator2k Dream17 / Jump Leads guy Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Los Angeles Age: 27 Posts: 184	We do get emails to that effect on occasion. The new version of the website has text links and will be generally a lot nicer. __________________ PortsCenter ● Dream17

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