Syndicate: mission bugged or not ?

[Maverick357]

Hello,

I am playing 'Syndicate' but the game is very buggy.
- First the pathfinder is a real nightmare, you click to send your cyborg somewhere and them find not the way to go to.
In case of rush, you are dead meat.

- The ennemis don't respect the rules of the games, they have unlimited ammos to shoot you :sad
If an ennemy shoot at you, the cop don't shoot on him but on you if you use a weapon :sad
The ennemy can be at the same position than one of your cyborg, when you need to select another cyborg to move it, that take time and you loose some cyborg.

- Some mission is unplayable, for example: the station in the atlantic sea, you are killed in the 30 sec. after the mission start, if you have bad luck. Maybee 20 ennemis come with machine gun and you shield is useless (you must choose: your gun or your shield, you cannot use it in same time). And when you are shooted from so many ennemy's, you cannot shoot back !!:sad

Now i have done it, but with cheating ! I am immortal :D
And have so much money :D

If a target is in or after a house, you cannot see it, but he can shoot you the time that you are searching to shoot him, and you are dead !! :sad

Now i have try to fullfill a mission in 'Mozanbique', somewhere in the south-Africa.
I must get an item(secret weapon) on the roof of a big blockhaus but there is no way to reach it.
One of time, my cyborg is fallen from top (ouside of it) to groundlevel of this blockhaus (inside the blockhaus) and have never find the exit.

Another time i have searched more than one hour after have killing all ennemy to find a way to reach the item, but never find it.

Have somebody, completed this mission and can give me the way to get this item or the mission is unplayable ?


Another one, in Colombie in central-America, there must be an ambulance stolen and let a doctor to get in to continue the mission to next target, but the doctor come to the ambulance and never step in, he just walk around on the street. The doctor is not and MUST not be persuaded.

Have somebody, completed this mission and can give me the trick to get this doctor in the ambulance or the mission is unplayable too ?

It is very frustrating no terminate a game !
If you can help me to complete this mission(s), i will able to see the end game screen (or animation maybee) :)


<akira>
Mate, don't write your signature directly. Use the UserCP panel to set up your personal sig.
</akira>

[TikTok]

If you think these missions are hard, you should try the American Revolt expansion disk :)

[Fred the Fop]

When I get home maverick, I'll post it for you:)

[Maverick357]

ok i am waiting for your help :)

And for 'Syndicate: American revolt' it is another set of four adf or just an scenario data disk ?

Have you an url to find it ?


Thanks

[Fred the Fop]

Maverick, I do not remember where I got it, just that it is an expansion single disk:) Be patient ere your request shall be granted before long:)

[Akira]

Somebody posetd it here already, but I BET it is in any of teh common ADF sites. Please look for it before somebody posts it for nothing.

[Maverick357]

Hello,

Before and while i had asking for an url to find an adf of 'American revolt', i had search for it on googles without find it

Then i have remember me an old bookmark of site for Amiga roms that are not very updated (last news is 16.1.2001) but have a good selection.

This is where i got an copy of 'Syndicate' for Amiga.

Yes, i find one at this url:
http://amiga.supergamez.hu/GamesS-/SyndicateAmericanRev.zip if somebody is interested to download from there.

[Maverick357]

Hello,

Just to say if somebody is interested i have the manual of Syndicate.

The Syndicate manual is in pdf version (from the Amiga version if i look at the screenshot inside(graphics from the Amiga not the pc version)) is a perfect reproduction of the manual from page one to page 59 (with copyright/credits notice :) ).

But now Syndicate is legal, so no problem of copyright :)

[Akira]

I told you, search and you will find :)

Talking about Syndicate, I found it mean as hell as well... There was one particular mission I could never pass, and I think I left the game there. Itw as one where about 4 otehr syndicates were rampage on a city, all of them taking it on the other... complete fucking mayhem, after walking round there for a minute, we were blasted by quite a zillion pounds of ammo coming from Gauss guns :P

All teh points you have raised really make the game quite a bit more difficult. I never thought about them before, but they are really quite buggy! (Unless Peter Molyneux wanted us to suffer :))

[Maverick357]

If you have 'game trainer', a cheat tools for pc, you can freeze some adress memory of the emulator to become immortal:D

Other else there are too many of time that you are killed (with all the mods and gauss gun too), or that your target that need come with you through all the maplevel are killed by the last ennemy (you target follow very slow and the pathfinder is a real nightmare, i have lost a lot of cyborg (before i become immortal) just went the get lost in small street or in houses).
:sad

[TikTok]

Bah, the games of today have made you all soft! ;) ;)

[Akira]

TikTk, agreed :) I'll never cheat, you completely spoil the game. There's no point in cheating to me, so I never do.

[Maverick357]

For some games, you never have the choice, you must cheating for continue to play.

I like too to try to beat the game, but some are cheating too or have some part of the game too difficult (or too bugged to play).

For example of cheating game: syndicate :)

In Syndicate, the ennemies cyborgs have unlimited ammos, they can shoot you hours if they want and never have ammos problems.

But you, the player, if you use all you ammos, you are death meat.

For the missions, in the middle of atlantic (the hardest i think), i have try to play it honestly and strategy, i have used my shield and wait for the ammos of the ennemies are gone but this never happend because they have unlimited ammos !!!:sad
and they are maybee 20 ennemies cyborg shooting you with machine guns, killing only one before he killing you is very very hard, you cannot use both weapon and shield at the same time,
but your shield is gone very fast :sad
So, what to do if you want continue to play ?

If a computer oppenent dont respect the rules and cheat, why can i not do the same and cheat too ?

When a game is playable (for an medium arcade player, not an expert) and respect the rules then i never cheat, i respect the rules of the games and play it honestly :) ;)

[Twistin'Ghost]

That's a very good point because quite a number of games do not play fair.

[Fred the Fop]

True, but realize that we are armed with intellect, and so the programmers had to compensate...albeit ridiculously so...and often.

[TikTok]

I'm not sure if *any* games play completely fair when you think about it. Sure, the enemies in Syndicate can't run out of ammo - but can any bad guys in any games? Even in modern FPS games it ususally doesn't happen.

I think I managed to complete the Atlantic Accelerator in Syndicate - you just needs lots of patience, loads of Guass Guns, and a whole ton of luck :)

[Akira]

The computer peeps do whatever they want really, it's you intruding their world :) The programmer set the rules, not you, so how you know the computer breaks the rules and you don't?

You have to adequate to that. When a game is really really tough, the fun is bigger once you get to beat it, that's why I never cheat.

And that's why I love R-Type :) It's a game that needs mastering. I've been playing it for quiet some time and I haven't beat it yet, but taht does not make me go out and cheat on it. I want to do it on my own.. If I cheat I spoil teh end, and my goal is not just to 'finish it and throw it away', I want to master the game, and that cannot be achieved with cheating.

[Maverick357]

Ok, Akira:)
But maybee you are an expert Arcade player;)

I like playing with the arcades games but not too much, because i need to many time to mastering some arcade games (specialy if the computer opponent is cheating ;) ), i am just a medium arcade player.

I like more strategy games, rpg and adventure games.:cool
Whit that sort of games, i can stay playing hours/days/weeks/months... years, :D ...maybee not years, :D with the same game (like dungeon master trilogy).

If after 10 minutes, i don't like a game i don't keep it (or maybee just for history of a computer).

I have a very good collection of games for Spectrum (2 cd-roms full, but not only with games, i like remember the old advertising for a game and screenshots of some very good graphics), for nes, Snes, Megadrive, Amstrad, C64, MSX, ect...:gamer

Most of it is computers that i have buy when i whas young, all my money whas gone in computers. :gamer

I know that i will never play all my old favorite computers games (i like sometimes play with my good old Speccy games, sometimes the graphics are not the most important, but the fun :D )


I like to play without cheating... only if the computer game is fair and honest ;)

[Akira]

As a matter of fact, NO, I'm quite an average (tending to shite :)) games player. But I like the challenge. When I am good at a game I'm quite good, because not cheating and similar restrictions I put myself (always play with one credit only), makes me a better player. But I'm quite poor really :)

[amigauser]

Maverick, I do not remember where I got it, just that it is an expansion single disk:) Be patient ere your request shall be granted before long:)

Fred, i have got the 4 ADFs for the original Syndicate and the American Revolt ADF but for some reason when I load the American Revolt ADF into Winuae I just get the original game. Any idea as to howI can get this working, please?

[Shatterhand]

I can tell that Syndicate is "finishable", as I did it. This last mission in the atlantic, like TikTok said, can be done with lots of Gauss guns. I remember that's how I beated it.

But yeah, even then, it took me some hard work. Great game, Syndicate.....

[Martin_L]

I didnt even know there was an expansion disk for syndicate!

[Pink]

The Atlanatic Accellerator (sp?) I think the best way to complete it is to hide behind a corner with a flame thrower and sometimes use a shield. The enemies will all run into your flames in blissful glee, because that's what angry cyborgs do! :)

The mozambique mission I can't remember too well. Isn't there an under ground tunnel somewhere that you have to take? Maybe post a screenie, and I'll remember I think.

And the mission Akira is talking about I believe I completed with the perseude thingie. Let them fight each other for a while and gather an army of little people and then persuade everyone on the entire map to join you and come over your house instead of being mean and fighting. (Later tax this area to 100% so it's always revolting so you can get more cyborgs if some die)

I don't remember having problems with people getting in my cars.

The end. :)

[MarlboroMan]

Maybe it helps: I completed the Atlantic Accellerator misson with nearly shields only. Simply run around and attract the bad guys to shoot at you. Now if you place your men right you can have the bad guys to shoot each other. I ran around like 10 minutes or so and finally there were only few of them left which i lasered away. :spin

[Shatterhand]

Well, 3 different strategies for the same level, and it seems like all of them worked out :)

[Pink]

We're so helpful and nice.

[redblade]

i never clocked syndicate, as I only had the ATX version of the AGA game.

I could finish all the missions, but that was it no, you completed all the missions or something..

I love that game tho, spent a whole week hard playing it, and when i went to school, whenever i closed my eyes all i saw were 4 people walking with flamers/miniguns, killing other syndicates. Was a cool week :)

[Medvind]

Ah, Syndicate, one of the hardest games I've played. But I did it, and without cheating too. Never played the expansion though. In Atlantic Accelerator I placed my cyborgs inside a building and mini-gunned everything that entered. Actually worked, but as someone said, you need a portion of luck aswell.

Maybe I should stop the American Revolt next...

[ATWindsor]

Just to put up a foruth strategy: There seems to be some kind of bug that makes the enemy stop shppting at you if there are very many syndicates in onw spot, so if you put on the shield, managae to get on the exact same spot as some of the enemies, alle the others will just go to that spot and there will be gigantic heap of syndicates on the exact same spot, then just move a yard away with the flamthrower and torch the bunch.