A600

[Traquer]

Reading a thread just a few below, chances are i will get flamed for this, but....

Is it even possible to transfer ADF's to an amiga 600? None of the ways i have read about work, as i cant mount stuff etc.

If someone could just tell me if it is actually possible, then i could stop trying to find out how to do it.

[Akira]

What makes you think it is impossible? You can transfer stuff to ANY Amiga, provided you have the right tools.

It gets harder as the configuration gets smaller, but it can be possible.

I thinki for an HD-less, 1MB A600, the best choice would be something like ADF Sender Terminal.

[Traquer]

What is an ADF sender terminal? What is one likely to cost?

[Traquer]

i think maybe i should change my question a little bit.

What i want to do is put a amiga game i downloaded onto a disk and play it in my Amiga 600. I have read the FAQ and stuff, and i tried to mount PC0 or something, but i couldnt do it on my A600, I just need another way to do this, if it is possible.

Thanks

[Dizzy]

If you don't know how to mount the disk, u will get a hard time getting the adf to the amiga. please try to RTFM (read the fucking manual), the workbench manual can be very usefull.

You could also make a LAN betwen your pc and amiga, but that's not an easy task either.

[Jim]

Originally posted by Dizzy
please try to RTFM (read the fucking manual)

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you said fucking !

huhuhuhuhuhuhuh :D

[Traquer]

i did skim through the manual. it does not mention mounting PC0 or anything. i typed it exactly as i was told, but nope, it didnt mount it.

[Jim]

Originally posted by zakfab
mount

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You said mount !

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[Dizzy]

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from USING THE AMIGA WORKBENCH
Graphicdump


it said dump

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Sorry a little pathetic

[Akira]

Originally posted by zakfab
i did skim through the manual. it does not mention mounting PC0 or anything. i typed it exactly as i was told, but nope, it didnt mount it.

Workbench 2.0/2,05 does NOT have Crossdos builtin so you CAN'T mount the PC0: device

ADF Sender Terminal is a program that works even with very low spec Amigas... I think you need a copy of amigabasic though...

First things first: grab yourself a serial null-modem cable. I could hook you up with a disk for your Amiga with the needed transfer ap. I will just need your address, and I'll send it. Send me a PM!

[Traquer]

i dont know much about the technical side of my amiga, would i need it to go in the parallel or serial port? and would any port on my pc be ok?
Can i just go into a comuter shop and say something like 'can i have a null modem cable with a 25 pin serial port at one end and a UBS at the other' or is that just relly stupid?

[Traquer]

i have read that it should be serial to serial, and only use 7 pins, do shops just sell cables like this? or will i have to pull out some wires or something?

[Akira]

Originally posted by zakfab
'can i have a null modem cable with a 25 pin serial port at one end and a UBS at the other' or is that just relly stupid?
Yes it is :D Because serial has nothing to do with USB!

Just go to a shop and ask for a nullmodem serial cable. Tell them it needs to be 25-pin female at least in one side... if they have 25-pin to 25-pin cables, don't worry. Ask them for a serial 25 pin male to 9 pin female adapter. I am using that now on my PC and it works great.

The software i'm sending you will work only with this serial cable, so you have 2 weeks to get one :) I'll try to include CrossDOS or some such thing, too. Just in case. It still is quite useless if you have just a 1 meg A600 with no HD or external FDD.

[Traquer]

Thanks Akira :D

What about the stuff i read about only connecting 7 pins? Or does that not matter?

[Akira]

Hmm.. I think if the cable is done right, it should have only 7 cables.. I bought one and it worked.

[madduck]

I got a 9pin female and 25pin male; and have a female-female gender changer, so I think this could help me

what's the best software to transfer adfs

[Traquer]

would something like this be ok?

http://www.homestead.co.uk/nul4s.htm

[Dizzy]

You can buy a package with a cable and 2 disk one for the amiga and one for the pc. This is a very easy to use package for making a connection betwen the pc and the amiga.
I'm sorry I don't know where you could buy it today, I bought mine for some years ago.

I have a version of (i think it is) dir opus, where it mounted a pc drev, so you could read pc disk on that program. Haven't used it for some years.

[madduck]

Originally posted by zakfab
would something like this be ok?

http://www.homestead.co.uk/nul4s.htm

I bought this
http://www.homestead.co.uk/x006.htm

[Akira]

Originally posted by zakfab
would something like this be ok?

http://www.homestead.co.uk/nul4s.htm

Hmm.. Looks OK but you should try it out first, I presume!! Look at the cables that surely would work here:
http://www.eyetech.co.uk/search.php?SearchStr=&SearchCat=LCEX

Anyway, hear DJay. The pack he reffers to is PC2Amiga. it's really nice and faster than any serial transfer program because it works through parallel. I bet you can buy it from the website I linked you to above, I just couldn't find it. Send them an email and ask them about a PC2Amiga pack.

[Traquer]

Still having no luck.

If i had crossdos on an amiga disk, could i mount PC0?
Can i somehow get crossdos onto my workbench 2.05 so that i could transfer adf's?

[Akira]

Originally posted by zakfab
If i had crossdos on an amiga disk, could i mount PC0?
Can i somehow get crossdos onto my workbench 2.05 so that i could transfer adf's?

Yes, and yes. In that order.

But since you are stumped with the cables you will need some Amiga user to give you a disk with CrossDOS already on it...

[oldpx]

Don't trust all the 25-9 pin cables you see around. Check the pinouts http://www.technick.net/pincabnul_null_9_25.php

[Phiber]

Soldered myself a nullmodem cable using the port specs and slammed that umbilical cord between my A600 and my PC running amiga explorer...

Didn't get it to work painlessly, because after some serious mind work found out that the Amiga Explorers amiga side client was set too fast for the serial.device (got it working on 9600 baud connection.. it's slow but gets even the bigger files transferred)

My A600 has a 1 Gigabyte 2.5" IBM Harddrive and KS3.1.. Running WB3.1..

Dunno if there's something with the IDE-Channel, but i think it steals a lot of CPU Power.. Just wishing to own an accelerator someday, so the A600 could be used without the lagging on the screen.. + it would be possible to add more than 2MB of memory to it..

[Traquer]

So if i did get Cross Dos on it, the i could get the pc disk to work in the amiga, will i be able to copy it to an amiga disk with only one floppy drive?

[Phiber]

Originally posted by zakfab
So if i did get Cross Dos on it, the i could get the pc disk to work in the amiga, will i be able to copy it to an amiga disk with only one floppy drive?


Quite so, using the cross dos makes the amiga understand the PC
formatted 720k floppy.. but there are limitations on this:

the disk only holds 720k, so you can't x-fer plain 880k .adf files so you would have to do either of the following a.) Compress the files, or b.) split them in half

this leads to the following.. you must have enough memory to hold workbench, the decompresser, crossdos, (possibly also the splitter/join program) and the software to write the stuff back onto a amiga formatted floppy.. and also the program to be transferred needs to be somewhere in the memory

adding another diskdrive helps a little, so that you don't need to keep everything on memory/transferdisk but it's a complicated and time consuming to swap disks and curse at the limitations..


My advice:

Get a second hand 2.5" HD somewhere + a memory expansion..

Playing around with only floppydrives is a cumbersome hassle..

If the machine has only one floppy, no harddisk and no extramemory.. Well.. pain is an understatement in that scenario..

[Traquer]

Thanks for all the help :D

I guess i will have to try to get an A1200, a lot less hassle.

Thanks again.

[Akira]

Originally posted by zakfab
I guess i will have to try to get an A1200, a lot less hassle.
How so? same limitations as on an A600 apply to a stock A1200... if you have no nullmodem cable, no transfers. CrossDOS still reads only 720k disks. Teh A1200 still uses 2.5| Hds.

[Fissuras]

I have bought this Dataflyer SCSI Interface some days ago (8Mb RAM + 20Mb SCSI HD). It can be used with external SCSI devices. If you all remember (of course you don't) I have a Syquest Ez-Drive (135Mb disks) that connects to the parallel port of the PC and another that is an internal IDE device. Now I've just acquired a SCSI External EZ-Drive, so I am planning to connect it to the SCSI Dataflyer and use it with the A500, so that I can get lots of different 135 Mb formatted hard disks that can be used with the amiga and with Winuae (and the internal IDE Ez-Drive on the PC).

Will it all work????

[Akira]

Why did you buy such an old piece of shite? :D You should have got yerself a SCSI ZIP drive at least...

How does this Dataflyer SCSI device connectt to the A1200? I have an accelerator and I think I cnnot use it with it, can I?

[Fissuras]

The dataflyer connects to the A500 only.

I've bought the Ez-Drive because I already had 2 Ez-Drives, which are by far much better then a shit zip drive (too slow - An Ez-Drive is like a mini Harddisk).

A zip disk to plug in the Dataflyer would be of no use to me, as I have no way of using it on my PC.

[Traquer]

So what do you recomend i do?

[ElectroBlaster]

As said before m8!

1. Get the a600 kitted out with a laptop hard drive and install workbench on it! Also get a 1megabyte ram expansion aswell! (if you can find one)

2. Get the 25pin to 9pin nullmodem cable!

3. Get that disk of transfer gubbins from Akira!

Tell us when you got all these bits sorted out...

*Or hunt on ebay for an a1200 with extras including the hard drive and any ram expansion... one with a cd-rom drive would solve this problem! I used to download ADF's and burn them onto a blank cd... then I used ADFBlitz to write them back onto amiga floppy's! worked a treat until i got my 1200 hooked up to my ethernet network :)

[Akira]

Hmm.. I wonder where teh FUCK did I put my absolute-newbie-transfer-disk... i need to make it again and start spreading it :D

[ElectroBlaster]

That would be a bloody good idea m8! I was thinking about making a website up with actual close up pictures of an amiga and its ports, interfaces etc...
So say you wanted to fit an hard drive of the 3 1/2 pc variety to an a1200 there would be a guide including pictures you could print off! I could attach links to each company that sells the bits!

Backtoskooldaze suggested I did a guide on pcmcia networking... since I got mine networked up about 6months ago!
What do you think?