EAB/Lemon Super League 2011: Round 7 - Vroom

[Graham Humphrey]

EAB/Lemon Super League 2011: Round 7 - Vroom (http://hol.abime.net/1598)

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7213/vroom01.png http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/255/vroom02.png http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3122/vroom03.png
Starts: 00:01 May 29 Finishes: 23:59 June 18


Rules

Post a picture of your score here with the score written underneath. Enter as often as you like. Only scores achieved during the round's time frame count.

Play Arcade mode.

No cheating of any kind (including score leeching) - this includes save states. No continues/passwords allowed. If you suspect anyone of cheating please let us know in private - anyone found guilty will be banned for the entire season.

In an exciting twist, the winner of this round gets to choose a year between 1987 and 1995 for Round 8 after the competition's break, when only games from the chosen year can be voted for. Well, except 1995, as that was taken last season.

Remember, anyone can join in at any time. Have fun and feel free to ask any questions you may have.

Downloads

- ADF
(http://planetemu.net/index.php?section=roms&dat=754&action=showrom&id=1081203) - WHDLoad-installed
(http://www.whdownload.com/games/Pack-V-2007-01-30/Vroom_v1.4_1295.zip)
Extras

- Full rules and FAQ (http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=41652) (incorporating the Hall of Fame (http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=594507&postcount=5))
- Results and standings (http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=57769)
(http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=57769)- Lemon thread (http://www.lemonamiga.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9008)

Final Scores - EAB, Lemon

1. lifeschool - 94,219
2. bbsteal - 91,423
3. Simon Humphrey - 85,745
4. premmisseth - 75,762
5. Parpala - 74,227
6. capehorn - 69,474
7. Graham Humphrey - 68,701
8. frikilokooo - 66,543
9. LinesMachine - 62,967
10. Ze Emulatron - 35,738
11. Lonewolf10 - 32,217
12. Shawn Dimery - 25,639
13. TurricanX - 17,793
14. robotron - 13,611
15. kkgarbod - 11,753
16. mihcael - 10,756
17. mailman - 9,509

[mailman]

9509

[Lonewolf10]

hehe, the game assumes that you have an AZERTY keyboard at the name entry on the highscores table! :crazy


Score: 32,217


Regards,
Lonewolf10

[Graham Humphrey]

The AZERTY thing caught me out too, comically, so this picture is a second take...!

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8114/vroomscore1.jpg

19,586

[capehorn]

Rock'n'Roll used to do the same thing. Confused the hell out of me when I was a kid, especially because one of the cheat codes used those letters.

[lifeschool]

Hey guys, I've just posted a few hints and tips on the Lemon compo thread, so if you're new to this, or just want to be nosy, check it out. This is one of my favourite Amiga games of all time - so lets have a really intense battle before the summer break ! :cool

[frikilokooo]

It's me or the car turns less on the original version than the multiplayer version? It's a nightmare enter in the pit zone:banghead

[frikilokooo]

51,858

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/frikiloko/002-2.jpg

I've always played the multiplayer version,the original version is much more difficult,I don't like it.

The game has a sort of assisted turns,however you must initiate the turn first then the game turns the car itself being adjusted to the bend radius.
The smooth ride is the best advice and avoid slow cars(almost impossible).You don't get frustrated if some car passes you,not all the cars go so fast and when finish the compo play the multiplayer version :banghead

Playing on WinUAE (cycle exact),my miggy is too fast.


This is a video that I made long time ago:

http://www.youtube.com/user/frikilokooo#p/u/7/XwtxUu9266c

[Lonewolf10]

lifeschool,

Thanks for the guide. Just one question... where is the tyre indicator light? I can't seem to see it in any of the screenshots :help


Regards,
Lonewolf10

[lilalurl]

It is (hidden) under the left hand, so if you want to check you have to steer the wheels :D.

Check frikilokooo's video at 0:06 for instance.

[lifeschool]

lifeschool,Thanks for the guide. Just one question... where is the tyre indicator light? I can't seem to see it in any of the screenshots :help

Yes, the tyre 'T' light indicator is located under the drivers left thumb, the engine 'E' indicator light is located under the drivers right thumb. The engine is only a problem if you're using manual gears.

It's me or the car turns less on the original version than the multiplayer version? It's a nightmare enter in the pit zone

The game seems to have a narrow window where it will allow a car to enter the pits. If you miss this window, the game thinks you've missed the pits and seems to steer the car away. It's odd, I know. I get around this by cutting it on the grass and driving into the pit late head-on so that there's no steering involved.


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[Graham Humphrey]

Eleven people have entered already... nice work!

[kkgarbod]

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/6688/clipboard03yf.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/35/clipboard03yf.jpg/)

11753

[Graham Humphrey]

Died at the end of the third circuit this time...

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/5444/vroomscore2.jpg

34,235

[frikilokooo]

60,060

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/frikiloko/001.jpg

[frikilokooo]

66,543

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/frikiloko/001-1.jpg

[lifeschool]

@ frikilokooo - Nice score!, 66.5 by level 5 - you keep going pal, seems like you're the only one holding the EAB candle so far. Let's not have another whitewash - any more EAB readers wanna join?? This is the last one before the Summer break you know...?

[Graham Humphrey]

No positions gained but a narrowly better score - I only overtook eight cars on the French circuit but at least I finished this time.

Oh, and eight days to go - where is everybody...?

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/5821/vroomscore3.jpg

38,988

[Ze Emulatron]

Oh, and eight days to go - where is everybody...?


I don't really like it so I haven't been playing it, I thought in F1 the slow drivers were supposed to get out of the way of the fast drivers.

[Lonewolf10]

I thought in F1 the slow drivers were supposed to get out of the way of the fast drivers.

Back before health & safety ruined the racing aspect in formula 1 (e.g. when the game was made) the faster drivers had to negotiate a way past the slower (lapped) drivers. Blue flags (to tell drivers a car was about to lap them and they must let them through) were only introduced sometime in the last 10 years or so. F1 has been going for decades.


Oh, and eight days to go - where is everybody...?

I'm very busy working on something I want finished ASAP. I do hope to get time over the weekend to play it for a few hours.


Regards,
Lonewolf10

[lifeschool]

Back before health & safety ruined the racing aspect in formula 1 (e.g. when the game was made) the faster drivers had to negotiate a way past the slower (lapped) drivers. Blue flags (to tell drivers a car was about to lap them and they must let them through) were only introduced sometime in the last 10 years or so. F1 has been going for decades.
I'm right with you there pal, I'm a huge F1 fan and have every race from 1984 - 1994 (Senna Era). All the Health and Safety stuff really came in after all the mess at Imola in '94. I think they stopped using Zeltweg as the Austrian GP back in '86, so it's strange it should be included in the game. Same with Fuji; that hadn't been used since '77 Gilles Villeneuve was involved in a crash that killed two spectators, and wasn't used again until '07. With that in mind the game is most definitely a homage to the golden (turbo) era rather than what it was in 1990/91 when they made it. :rolleyes

Having said that, there wouldn't be half as much skill involved in the game if all the cars went around at a uniform speed (ala Lotus), and the 'dead slow' drivers echo the real unpredictability of Grand Prix racing. I remember Ayrton Senna smashing into the back of one of these at one race, and had to go around on three wheels! I play this on with an 030 'cus the speed feels just right for me, and passing those slow cars is harder but much more rewarding having done so on bravery alone.

BTW, I'm going to pull out this game every day this week, who's gonna join me? :D

[john4p]

I think they stopped using Zeltweg as the Austrian GP back in '86, so it's strange it should be included in the game.
It was used in the F1 from 1970-1987 and then again from 1997-2003:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96sterreichring

So it's still strange since Vroom was released 1992.

[capehorn]

37,652

[Graham Humphrey]

Overtook eleven cars on the French track this time but still not quite able to crack it...

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/6290/vroomscore4.jpg

41,331

[capehorn]

46,256.

I'm good enough to complete track three, it's just the random slow cars which keep ruining it for me.

[Lonewolf10]

I wish I could complete track 3 - I struggle so badly on that track. Yesterday I didn't even complete track 2 and got so frustrated that I decided to do a little programming and play Alien Fish Finger instead.

At this point in time, I don't think I can better my current score.


Regards,
Lonewolf10

[capehorn]

Track 3 isn't really all that hard when you think about it. All you have to do is remember where the track goes down to one lane and break well before it. Then break whenever you see the red arrow warning of a sharp bend. Accelerate through the rest of the track. That will be enough to get you through it and having passed enough cars (14) to qualify. As long as you can also get past the slow runners.

Edit: 68,358

[Lonewolf10]

My tires always go on track 3, and as I discovered on Monday pitting is a joke. I must re-read lifeschools tips before I try again.


Regards,
Lonewolf10

[capehorn]

The pit lane on track 3 is a joke, but if you need a pitstop on that you probably aren't doing well enough to qualify. I had a near perfect on it today and only finished 2 positions ahead of what is the minimum needed.

[Graham Humphrey]

Argh! Crashed on one of the final corners and got overtaken by the one car I needed to stay in front of in order to qualify for the next race :banghead

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/9592/vroomscore5.jpg

42,148

[lifeschool]

My tires always go on track 3, and as I discovered on Monday pitting is a joke. I must re-read lifeschools tips before I try again. Lonewolf10
The pit lane on track 3 is a joke, but if you need a pitstop on that you probably aren't doing well enough to qualify. I had a near perfect on it today and only finished 2 positions ahead of what is the minimum needed.

Track 3 (Casti-lay) is perhaps the hardest of them all. I say 'perhaps' because the later tracks ARE hard but become much easier with practice - track 3 doesn't!! The maximum number of red cars I've ever got on track #3 is only 5. My average is just 2! I think it's impossible to get a full score table on track 3.

As for pitting, you have to go so slow around that penuntimate bend it's untrue. You basically have to do it in 1st gear, and just roll it in without power, then brake while pressing the T key until it works. Like you say Capehorn, if you have to pit on track 3 or track 5 you may as well throw in the towel; as you won't be able to catch up in time to qualify. This doesn't hamper the other courses in the same way, and pitting on track 6 is almost a necessity.

Tips for track 3? - well, beyond the drivethru guide I can only reiterate that the horrible left-right chicane near the start is the most important thing in the world. If you can get by the first five cars and do this chicane first-time-out, you can (and must!) put some distance between you and the rest of the grid - and then if you crash you won't lose your position. Crashing into a barrier or off-course is the worst thing you can do on track 3, but crashing into the back of a car is more-or-less ok, and you'll soon catch up.

The road will weave as it climbs the hill, and it is vital to pass cleanly or not at all. Try to take the very top corner (at the top of the hill) at top speed by leaning sharply to the right early. Avoid passing cars on the long double right-hander which follows the drop-down - as you're bound to crash when the road flicks before the bridge - but instead keep close behind the car infront and watch it. If it goes into the right-hand lane before the 'pit corner', move to the left and out-brake it into the corner. If it goes left, move to the right-hand lane (and keep right) to take care of it as you go around the bend.

Tires will never be a problem unless you crash more than 5 times, so its best to be panicky on the brakes rather than dive for gaps close to the edge of the circuit. I would have said 'extra kid gloves' is needed here, but frankly this course is the shortest on the calendar, and you really don't have time to hang around; so sometimes taking risks (and a lot of luck) is really what's needed. After that you'll get past track 4 and onto 5 with a great score - no problem. :spin

Oh yeah, if you want to visually see how I do it, remember I have a video on the Lemon thread (page 1) (http://www.lemonamiga.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9008&start=0), or watch it here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=kZHgpssbaTU

[Graham Humphrey]

Last day of the round people - remember we have a break after this so make the most of it...

And don't forget the winner gets to choose what year we pick games from for the next round but I think this won't concern EAB somehow ;)

[Graham Humphrey]

One more go and finally I start to get somewhere. Silverstone was a breeze but Sweden was altogether more difficult. The first half of the race was a nightmare but I did get to grips with it and almost made it. It wasn't quite enough but I'm more than satisified with my final score.

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/6661/vroomscore6.jpg

68,701

[capehorn]

69,474

My warmest congratulations to anyone who completed track 5.

[Graham Humphrey]

Just when I thought I exacted revenge for Pang ;)

The round is now over - congrats to lifeschool for bagging his first win and for the tons of advice he has given. Not a great turnout from the EAB lads - just six which is disappointing but we've now got a break to recharge our batteries before the second special round, which will be games from 1994 only.