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Akira
27 May 2011, 21:08
I love AMP. But downloading each MOD one by one is an enormous pain in the rear end.

Is there any place I can get a whole ZIP/Collection of all MODs in AMP and/or other places? A torrent? I am thinking something like HVSC but for Amiga MODs.

Any help appreciated :D

Djay
27 May 2011, 21:33
i will look at my mod collection (which isnt massive), if its a reasonable size to upload to say... rapidshare

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ok... its 53mb... i will upload to rapidshare, it comprises of Game/Scene/Crack tunes

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bLAZER has provided a better option!!

bLAZER
27 May 2011, 21:36
ftp.modland.com

Total number of modules on the server: 415317
Total size of all modules on the server: 86016842341 bytes (80.1 GB)

Akira
28 May 2011, 00:44
Well I think it's better to have a ONE FILE solution like HVSC.. with proper cataloguing etc... If I make this, would anybody help distribute it?

bLAZER
28 May 2011, 01:46
Modland is structured absolutely fine by format/author/songname. No need for anything else.

Hewitson
28 May 2011, 07:41
I love AMP. But downloading each MOD one by one is an enormous pain in the rear end.
You're not wrong. I've often wished the site offered the option to download all mods by a particular author in a single file.

moijk
28 May 2011, 09:40
Well I think it's better to have a ONE FILE solution like HVSC.. with proper cataloguing etc... If I make this, would anybody help distribute it?

just make a recursive get in ftp. :)

zeg
29 May 2011, 08:10
I love AMP. But downloading each MOD one by one is an enormous pain in the rear end.

Is there any place I can get a whole ZIP/Collection of all MODs in AMP and/or other places? A torrent? I am thinking something like HVSC but for Amiga MODs.

Any help appreciated :D

Hello.
Yes, there is one way. You can start collecting your own mods. It costs 25 years of your live time. Other solutions are simple unfair. Okey!! And why did you need all the files at home?
bye bye

Skope
29 May 2011, 12:44
I would advise all modland-leechers to use one of the mirrors as they are way faster and nicer to Coma's very limited bandwith. Use main site for uploading. Check the 'mirrors' file on the main server.

And it couldn't be easier to queue a dir by author from modland (and its mirrors). Select the dir you want and press Download. (:

Asle
29 May 2011, 20:48
Hello.
Yes, there is one way. You can start collecting your own mods. It costs 25 years of your live time. Other solutions are simple unfair. Okey!! And why did you need all the files at home?
bye bye
:)
Also, you could ask _me_. I would do a few zips for some authors if you want.

Sylvain

bLAZER
29 May 2011, 23:49
@skope Yes, I use a mirror, I just wanted to post the original address.

Akira
30 May 2011, 01:07
Hello.
Yes, there is one way. You can start collecting your own mods. It costs 25 years of your live time. Other solutions are simple unfair.
This is probably one of the most retarded comments I ever read at this day and age. It's not like the files are a secret treasure buried by pirates 100 years ago :rolleyes

Having a torrent with all files would be great because it will:
- Help people have a truckload of MODs to listen to.
- Ease the traffic off Modland, AMP and other sites using a community-driven torrent. If we all seed such torrent, it would make life easier for people that may be paying for the bandwidth to get leeched by others. THAT is unfair.
- If regularly updated, someone can take care of additions and changes... Have you evr seen the High Voltage SID collection? Something like that is awesome and asking "what ois the point of something like this?" is pretty uninformed.
- Helps you discover new music and new artists. I queue up unknown artists fro m HVSC in my player and many times I am gladly surprised with new people to check or new tunes by peopel I already knew. If you have to go and download what you *already know*, this part is totally ignored.

It doesn't even need to be a torrent, it could be a hosted website. With enough people contributing with checking on updates and making updates pack, it would work awesome.


Thanks to those who offered help, I think I will slowly go the modland way and start archiving by author, then see what I do with it. I still think a torrent archive or at least author ZIPs are a great idea.

Skope
30 May 2011, 07:12
@skope Yes, I use a mirror, I just wanted to post the original address.

I was referring to any new potential modland leechers. Not you mate. The way I put it was a little clumsy. :)

zeg
30 May 2011, 18:39
[QUOTE=Akira;758793]This is probably one of the most retarded comments I ever read at this day and age. It's not like the files are a secret treasure buried by pirates 100 years ago :rolleyes

It is really the super-market menthality, "i want all and everything", unknown for what it could be used for.

But, it seems you did not know, there is somebody behind this all, the people who are searching and sorting the musics, and all the releases where the music was used for. And you all think, the files are swimming on the ocean, and you can fish it. That all was/is a giant work during the last 24-25 years. I think, the leechers should really do also his/her things for this..

bye bye
zeg

Akira
31 May 2011, 03:33
To clarify this for brick heads like Herr Zeg here: I did not post this here just to have all MOD files in my possession, I was asked about a repository that contained all files in a simple downloadable pack, much in the way HVSC works, for Amiga music, and if it did not exist, that I would like to try to create one. Actually an offer for contribution for better spread of what is out there.

But is it worth it? I probably get flamed by people who still think these files are to be had only "by the elite", whoever that is, and call people they don't know leechers just because they want to download a file.

Hey, someone, give Zeg a ring, he's stuck in 1992 :crazy

Hewitson
31 May 2011, 04:28
I think the idea a of torrent with 80.1GB of mods is absolutely ridiculous. The HVSC is only 60MB, the two can hardly be compared.

TheCyberDruid
31 May 2011, 07:05
I think the idea a of torrent with 80.1GB of mods is absolutely ridiculous.

Que? Any decent client will let you pick what you need, if the torrent is made correctly. I'd say that a well seeded torrent would be the best way to distribute something like that.

Skope
31 May 2011, 19:46
But is it worth it? I probably get flamed by people who still think these files are to be had only "by the elite", whoever that is, and call people they don't know leechers just because they want to download a file.

If you're referring to my post containing the word "leechers" I think you totally got the wrong message. Modland is a public FTP, free for anyone on the planet to DOWNLOAD (sorry, I was gonna use the word leech again) whatever they want. For the sake of easiness, just point your browser to ftp://ftp.modland.com. If you wanna do batch downloading then use an FTP-client or wget. Exactly how more convenient than that is there really?

And yes, you may also upload mods there which they don't already have.

Asle
31 May 2011, 21:03
Dear Akira,

1992 is indeed long gone. But, what was so special at that time, music wise anyway ? Was there some elite dude running underground music collection ? I don't think so. Granted, a few BBS/FTP did store _some_ musics, but certainly not at the level of modland or the mod archive.

I guess the point Zeg wants to make is that you lack any kind of respect towards the few individuals who _did_ spent the time he mentions to gather the material you want. It's very time consuming to collect all those files, believe me. I can guarantee you that Coma or any other music collectors worked for a long time to get there.

Still said files are of course free for download. It's easier on modland as it is a FTP. It's not so on AMP nor modarchive.

We (read AMP team) don't plan to provide a huge file (there are about 38 CD of mods on AMP presently) any time soon. We think it's ridiculous as the scope is always moving. I think a rsync in this case makes more sense. I think we'll study this (not so revolutionary) idea.

Last, again, if you wanted a few specific authors' musics, I can provide you with a zip of all their musics presently on AMP. I've done that before on several occasions when asked nicely ;).

Sylvain

Skope
31 May 2011, 21:21
It's very time consuming to collect all those files, believe me. I can guarantee you that Coma or any other music collectors worked for a long time to get there.

Yep. When I first met Coma he was already an avid mod collector. This was somewhere in the latter half of the 90's I believe. And I know Zeg has invested a huuuge chunk of his life into collecting and sorting scene related material and making it available to the public, so I definately understand him for getting a little ticked when someone just pops by with a grab-hand.

Retrofan
01 June 2011, 10:21
Perhaps you will like Amiga Mods Anthology. They are 4 cd's. I won't give a link to the Megaupload, but to a web that does:
<link to IPFs removed>

TheCyberDruid
01 June 2011, 10:33
Sorry Retrofan, but that page linked to IPF images, which is (sadly) a no-go here.

Retrofan
01 June 2011, 11:03
Oh, ok, sorry, although I don't know what IPF images are.

Anyway he can search the mods Anthology easily in google.

TheCyberDruid
01 June 2011, 11:10
http://www.softpres.org/ & http://eab.abime.net/faq.php?faq=eab_rules#faq_caps_faq_item
Whenever you see a 'NoIntro' set for the Amiga, it's a download with images created by the SPS team :)

s2325
01 June 2011, 22:47
Is there any pack with Future Composer music? Or site about it?

bLAZER
02 June 2011, 00:42
Yes, also at modland. They have pretty much all Amiga formats, not only mod.

TheCyberDruid
02 June 2011, 00:46
Is there any pack with Future Composer music? Or site about it?

Try the Exotica ModLand search : http://www.exotica.org.uk/mediawiki/index.php?title=Special:Modland&md=b_for&st=F

s2325
02 June 2011, 00:57
thank you

Akira
04 June 2011, 18:41
If you're referring to my post containing the word "leechers" I think you totally got the wrong message.
NO I don't mean you but Zeg.

Mr. AMP: explain in WHAT way I lack respect for anyone who gathered these MODs? Where on fucking earth did I say that? This is ridiculous! I have nothing but respect for people who gather these MODs and put them online in sites like yorrs or modland! I also thought haveiong an alternate download method would help since torrenting is supported by individuals and makes the load off you people's servers less. And as someone cleverly said, if teh torrent is properly arranged, you can SELECT what you want to get.

But forget I said anything, it is ridiculous how I am being questioned for trying to help. :bash The thread intention was not for you to provide me with an easy link to download everything, but to provide everyone with an alternative.

Also, kinda hard to get angry at someone wanting a ton of stuff that is not even yours. The whole attitude towards this has been pretty ridiculous. Read again: take example from the HVSC or the ASMA collections. I guess something like that will not exxist for the Amiga ever, seeing how the reaction towards it is.

Asle
05 June 2011, 05:12
Right, let's start over, shall we ?
First, Modland _DID_ provide a torrent some time ago. No idea where it stands now. Maybe a small mail to Coma could get you an answer.

Now, you can see yourself your first post:
Is there any place I can get ...
Let's consider it's to help people aside yourself. So, if you want to help, then, please, do so. Who or what prevents that ? Modland has several mirrors. We (AMP) have none but that's definitely something that could be set up, although, again, I think we'll settle for a rsync or similar.
Anyway, why don't you set up a mirror yourself ? You would then have all the files handy, and share that with the community any way you'd want. It's definitely something you should consider.

Sylvain

BuZz
05 June 2011, 19:11
the 80gb torrent didn't work out well. people didn't seed it after downloading, and there were not enough downloaders/seeders to make it work well speedwise. however some of the modland mirrors are a decent speed so downloading the whole thing doesn't take that long. the collection is also available by post on dvds from coma directly.

this isnt quite comparable to hvsc etc due to the size. its a very big collection. if you want it all you can download from the ftp and mirrors, however you might find you prefer to select only the protracker stuff or the formats you want.

ftp has worked well for delivering the collection. it allows people to choose between downloading entire folders or just individual tunes. there is a web interface with search that can search names/folders/formats/browse/search the instrument texts and even stream mp3/ogg recordings.

personally i think your comments towards zeg are pretty rude. that guy is responsible for preserving much of the amiga demo scene history (http://bitworld.bitfellas.org). Perhaps you should try actually listening to what people are saying.

RWe (AMP) have none but that's definitely something that could be set up, although, again, I think we'll settle for a rsync or similar.


I would be happy to host a mirror on my home server as I do with modland. Not all that fast but something :)

Asle
10 June 2011, 03:02
Akira : http://tracker.modarchive.org/
Buzz, the question is pending. I guess I'll have to decide alone :). I'll come back to you. Thanks for the offer.

Akira
13 June 2011, 01:22
personally i think your comments towards zeg are pretty rude. that guy is responsible for preserving much of the amiga demo scene history (http://bitworld.bitfellas.org). Perhaps you should try actually listening to what people are saying.
Dude, you know me. My comments were only as rude as his were -first- for no good reason.

This is a dead topic and sorry to those who I deply offended with asking a question which apparntly implied disrespecting scene historians, somehow (?)

BuZz
13 June 2011, 03:10
those who know zeg know zeg ;-) he wasnt trying to be flippant im sure - we can put both sides down to a misunderstanding - anyway - more importantly - get yer mods downloaded now, modland has some fast mirrors, which work better than the torrent :) cheers

zeg
13 June 2011, 11:23
Dude, you know me. My comments were only as rude as his were -first- for no good reason.

This is a dead topic and sorry to those who I deply offended with asking a question which apparntly implied disrespecting scene historians, somehow (?)

Hehe. by the way, id' like to have got all/some mods as well.
And we need more amiga demo pack disks. .-)

bye bye
zeg

Akira
14 June 2011, 22:54
those who know zeg know zeg ;-) he wasnt trying to be flippant im sure - we can put both sides down to a misunderstanding - anyway - more importantly - get yer mods downloaded now, modland has some fast mirrors, which work better than the torrent :) cheers

I better get MY mods UPLOADED instead ;)

BuZz
18 June 2011, 21:34
modland is always happy to receive submissions

dirkies
18 June 2011, 21:43
why not try to leech them all automated using JDownloader, a fantastic download manager, freeware running under java...?

BuZz
18 June 2011, 21:44
why not try to leech them all automated using JDownloader, a fantastic download manager, freeware running under java...?

because modland is on ftp and any ftp client will suffice.