EAB/Lemon Super League 2010: Round 8 - Pinball Illusions

[Graham Humphrey]

EAB/Lemon Super League 2010: Round 8 - Pinball Illusions (http://hol.abime.net/1059)

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/3308/pinballillusionsaga01.png http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/5295/pinballillusionsaga04.png http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/5139/pinballillusionsaga09.png

Starts: 00:01 July 11
Finishes: 23:59 July 31

Rules

Post screenshots of your scores in this thread, and write your score underneath. You can enter as many times as you like within the round's time frame.

All three tables will be played and all three scores will be added together to make your total score (it would be helpful if you could work this out yourself in your post).

No cheating of any kind (including score leeching) - this includes save states. No continues/passwords allowed. If you suspect a contestant of cheating then don't post it in public (anyone who does so will have their posts edited or deleted) - please PM me, Biscuit or mihcael and we will investigate it. If we find anyone guilty of cheating then they will be banned for the entire season.

Please only post your score on either the EAB or Lemon forums. If you have already played this year you have to post your score on the same forum for the whole season. If you are new, the one you post on first will be your team for the whole season. However you are welcome to discuss the compo, game etc. on the other forum if you wish.

Remember, anyone can join in at any time. Have fun and feel free to ask any questions you may have.

Downloads

- Disk 1 (http://www.planetemu.net/index.php?section=roms&dat=754&action=showrom&id=1075028), Disk 2 (http://www.planetemu.net/index.php?section=roms&dat=754&action=showrom&id=1075029), Disk 3 (http://www.planetemu.net/index.php?section=roms&dat=754&action=showrom&id=1075030), Disk 4 (http://www.planetemu.net/index.php?section=roms&dat=754&action=showrom&id=1075031)
- [/URL]WHDLoad-installed (http://www.whdownload.com/games/Pack-A-2007-01-30/AssassinSpecialEdition_v1.1_0766.zip)

[U]Extras

- Full rules and FAQ (http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=41652) (incorporating the Hall of Fame (http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=594507&postcount=5))
- Results and standings (http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=50695)
- Lemon thread (http://www.lemonamiga.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7969)

Final Scores - EAB, Lemon

1. Anakirob - 4,384,310,160
2. rexsu - 3,264,906,610
3. capehorn - 2,781,163,840
4. mihcael - 2,146,126,550
5. mailman - 1,669,665,620
6. Biscuit - 1,440,329,170
7. comiga - 1,278,116,040
8. john4p - 1,086,531,560
9. Retroplay - 1,070,735,230
10. skateblind - 1,058,313,370
11. Graham Humphrey - 1,004,424,100
12. Simon Humphrey - 725,568,880
13. LinesMachine - 650,475,000
14. kkgarbod - 261,975,390
15. Chuckles - 76,450,430

[Graham Humphrey]

I haven't played this game too often. It's good but it doesn't really grab me in the same way as Fantasies and Slam Tilt.

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7098/illusionslaw1.jpg

Law and Justice: 261,548,320

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1747/illusionsbabe1.jpg

Babewatch: 221,562,180

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/7694/illusionsextreme1.jpg

Extreme Sports: 55,955,000

Total: 539,065,500

[kkgarbod]

My first try:

Grand Total: 261,975,390

Table 1: 63,385,000
Table 2: 88,997,390
Table 3: 109,593,000

[rexsu]

Here my first attempts:

Table 1: 134,614,760
Table 2: 109,504,750
Table 3: 374,420,000

Total = 618,539,510

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/599/eabsuperleaguepinballil.th.jpg (http://img641.imageshack.us/i/eabsuperleaguepinballil.jpg/)
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/599/eabsuperleaguepinballil.th.jpg (http://img195.imageshack.us/i/eabsuperleaguepinballil.jpg/)
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/599/eabsuperleaguepinballil.th.jpg (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/eabsuperleaguepinballil.jpg/)

[Graham Humphrey]

The music on this table is truly the spawn of Satan himself.

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/7874/illusionsextreme2.jpg

Extreme Sports: 118,266,730

[Graham Humphrey]

Another score and time to go to bed before I end up playing this all sodding night...

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8205/illusionslaw2.jpg

Law and Justice: 341,908,920

Total: 681,737,830

[mailman]

This game should not have been released in the state it is available. It is full of bugs and apparently it was not properly tested. The most bugged table is the second one. The ball can sometimes fall into a trap on the left which makes the game to crash but the most annoying thing is that if you are during the race combo and you get the multiball, you got screwed completely because the multiball is not enabled and when the race combo is finished no other combos can be activated till the end of the play (not the ball)! I do not mention the bug with lack of automatic change of the resolution when you are in multiball mode. It happens on every table...

[blade002]

I am not sure Mailman, i am not disputing what you are saying as i am sure it happens, but when the game first game out (as much as i am not a Pinball fan) i played this game to death and never had any of the problems you mention!? Could it just be a bad version you are playing?

[mailman]

Table 1: 360,815,000
Table 2: 231,667,180
Table 3: 171,576,000

Total: 764,058,180

[mailman]

I am not sure Mailman, i am not disputing what you are saying as i am sure it happens, but when the game first game out (as much as i am not a Pinball fan) i played this game to death and never had any of the problems you mention!? Could it just be a bad version you are playing?

I tried different versions: original for AGA, CD32, cracked ones. Each time the bugs are the same. In the past I also played this game a lot and made some huge scores but they were just pure luck. I am a hardcore pinball fan and I always considered Pinball Illusions as being published too early...

Blade, are you saying that your version automatically switches the resolution in multiball mode?

[blade002]

Well yes, my floppy version did :) If i find time during the weekend i will try and fish it out of my disk collection and see if i can make ADF's from it, but i will need to see if all the disks are still ok of course ;)

[Simmo76]

I had an (original) floppy disk version of Pinball Illusions back in the day - my Mum was/is a HUGE pinball fan, so we bought them all - and I can confirm that the screen did indeed automatically switch between lo-res and hi-res graphic modes when multiball was activated. I think you could also manually change modes with one of the 'F' keys (F9 or F10 maybe?)...
I specifically remember this resolution switching as our ancient Phillips monitor used to make a buzzing noise when it changed over and the first time my Mum activated Multiball mode, she thought she'd broken something!!! Bless!
Sadly, I no longer have these disks as my Dad gave all our Amiga stuff away some years ago, but I hope this gives you some hope Mailman...? Maybe Blade will find his disks and you'll be able to play it properly after all this time.

[mailman]

I had an (original) floppy disk version of Pinball Illusions back in the day - my Mum was/is a HUGE pinball fan, so we bought them all - and I can confirm that the screen did indeed automatically switch between lo-res and hi-res graphic modes when multiball was activated. I think you could also manually change modes with one of the 'F' keys (F9 or F10 maybe?)...

I know that you can do it by hand but my versions never did it all by themselves...

[Graham Humphrey]

On the WHD install on KG's site you have to do it manually also. I don't find it a massive problem but it's a bit sloppy and inconvenient at times.

[skateblind]

125,451,300-----140,964,750-----133,795,000
25844 - 25842 - 25843

Total: 400,211,050

[mailman]

I gave it another go:

Table 1: 475,069,200
Table 2: 574,139,620
Table 3: 458,570,940

Total: 1,507,779,760

[Anakirob]

http://eab.abime.net/picture.php?albumid=259&pictureid=1461
http://eab.abime.net/picture.php?albumid=259&pictureid=1462
http://eab.abime.net/picture.php?albumid=259&pictureid=1463

Law And Order 950,656,920
Babewatch 2,763,097,240
Extreme Sports 670,556,000

Total 4,384,310,160

[blade002]

Maybe Blade will find his disks and you'll be able to play it properly after all this time.

After a bit of house cleaning and study i will try and get onto this later on tonight :) fingers crossed the disks still work :blased

[rexsu]

The music on this table is truly the spawn of Satan himself.
Extreme Sports: 118,266,730
If you don't like the heavy metal and hardrock, yes, this table is horrible :laughing

Table 1: 578,805,000
Table 2: 499,997,200
Table 3: 389,335,000

New Total = 1,468,137,200

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/599/eabsuperleaguepinballil.th.jpg (http://img267.imageshack.us/i/eabsuperleaguepinballil.jpg/)
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/599/eabsuperleaguepinballil.th.jpg (http://img121.imageshack.us/i/eabsuperleaguepinballil.jpg/)
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/599/eabsuperleaguepinballil.th.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/i/eabsuperleaguepinballil.jpg/)

[Anakirob]

The music on this table is truly the spawn of Satan himself.
I think the music on ALL the tables sucks. A pity there's no option to turn it off like in the two predecessors.

[blade002]

No luck, disk 1 worked at first and got to the bit where all the donuts are spinning around in a dance then i pressed F1 to load a table only to find that it asked for disk 2 and that disk is completely stuffed! (mind you, i could only find disks 1, 2 & 4), so i then i tried to reload disk 1 in an effort to choose a different table that may ask for disk 4 but to no avail because disk 1 then developed a bad block :(

Sorry Mailman, these disks are old and i was hoping they would still be ok, but alas they are not. But i KNOW there is a version out there that does everything it is supposed to! I "had" that version but i do no longer.

[Retroplay]

Law'N Justice
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/Spyrus/DSC00548.jpg
284,351,060

BabeWatch
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/Spyrus/DSC00551.jpg
217,227,240

Extreme Sports
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/Spyrus/DSC00550.jpg
287,220,000

Total Score
788,798,300

[mailman]

Small improvement on table 1. No changes in the second and third table.

Table 1: 491,464,880
Table 2: 574,139,620
Table 3: 458,570,940

Total: 1,524,175,440

[skateblind]

221,917,730---155,752,180---302,731,000
25877 2587825879

Total: 680,400,910

Better score, but I still stay where I am in the rankings. :(
Only 1.7 million behind graham though, so watch your back mate. ;)

[mailman]

@skateblind

1.3 to be precise ;)

[Graham Humphrey]

Shame we can't deduct points for being crap at maths ;)

[skateblind]

Ahem... :D

Edit:

348,842,570---393,974,800---315,496,000
2589425899 25896

Total: 1,058,313,370

[capehorn]

I've played A LOT of Fantasies and Dreams, but never really spent any time on this game until last week. Interestingly, it seems from the screenshots that everyone plays in lo-res mode.

971,561,620, 545,482,350, 265,018,000 = 1,782,061,970

[mailman]

Interestingly, it seems from the screenshots that everyone plays in lo-res mode.


Not everyone. I discovered that playing in hi-res the ball acts more naturally. When playing in lo-res I am sometimes able to shoot the ball to the back of the flipper which in natural conditions is not even close to be possible.

[Anakirob]

Considering all the votes this game recieved I was expecting to see a bit more wizadry. Nobody else has even cracked a billion points on ANY of the tables! You are all not going to like the scores I am going to post in a couple of days =)

[Graham Humphrey]

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/5808/illusionsextreme3.jpg

Extreme Sports: 440,953,000

Total: 1,004,424,100

[capehorn]

I just can't get a big score on Extreme Sports table. I think there may be a problem with the version I am using, even though it is the same one posted in the top of the thread.

Whenever I activate the Extreme Feature, the feature runs out of time very fast. I think I remember the few times I played this table years ago that you keep hitting ramps and the sport moves up from dull ones like chess and bowling to extreme ones like bungee jumping (I can't remember an actual one). But using this version I find even if I hit the ramps with regularity, I only get up to the fourth or five sport before the feature ends. I am sure I have also had ~30 seconds remaining before and have had the feature suddenly end abruptly for no reason I can work out. Has anyone else had this? How is that feature supposed to work? You get 30 seconds don't you? Is there a reason the time would run out faster than that?

Edit: It's just happened again. I have 30 seconds left, I hit a ramp, and then I only have 5 seconds left which makes it impossible. I have a savestate proving this...

[Graham Humphrey]

I think there may be a problem with the version I am using, even though it is the same one posted in the top of the thread.

Are you using the ADFs? If so I've no idea if there are problems with them or not - I only really test them to make sure they actually load, it's not really feasible for me to check if the games work without bugs and so on, particularly for a game I don't know very much about - so I wouldn't necessarily assume that the version linked to in this thread is a fully-working copy.

[capehorn]

Yes, the ADFs from the first post. Can anyone else confirm they have had this happen?

I've never been able to get hard drives/WHDLoad to work on WinUAE, although I'll be having a go over the summer so I can play some of these Chaos Constructed Levels.

[john4p]

These are the alternative ADFs:

Disk 1 (http://www.planetemu.net/index.php?section=roms&dat=754&action=showrom&id=1075024)
Disk 2 (http://www.planetemu.net/index.php?section=roms&dat=754&action=showrom&id=1075025)
Disk 3 (http://www.planetemu.net/index.php?section=roms&dat=754&action=showrom&id=1075026)
Disk 4 (http://www.planetemu.net/index.php?section=roms&dat=754&action=showrom&id=1075027)

[TheCyberDruid]

They are still marked with [b] (bad) in the latest TOSEC dat, so I guess that's not really an option :)

[john4p]

Ah, okay. Didn't know [b] means bad.

[Simmo76]

After meaning to do so all week, I finally got around to checking the Pinball Illusions ADFs that I have on my Xbox...
I am utterly useless at this game, so won't even think about posting my scores(!) but I did eventually manage to activate multiball (on the Babewatch table) and Hi-res mode activated all by itself - just as I remember all those years ago! What it did NOT do however, was switch back to lo-res mode once multiball was over (very quickly).

Initially I was going to post this for Mailman and Blade (re comments made earlier in this post), but reading that capehorn is struggling with his version of the ADFs I thought this may be of interest to others too?

I have no idea what 'set' of disc these are, as the Xbox cannot cope with long filenames and so these would've been renamed (possibly by me) some years ago (sorry).

This is what I do know though:
There are 4 ADFs - called Pillus-1, Pillus-2, Pillus-3 & Pillus-4.
They initially load up a cracking screen/intro by Paradox.
The game runs at 50fps (PAL?) - Don't know if this is relevant or not?

I am more than happy to upload these if anyone thinks they may be rare/unusual, although I realise that this is highly unlikely.

[TheCyberDruid]

There are 4 ADFs - called Pillus-1, Pillus-2, Pillus-3 & Pillus-4.
They initially load up a cracking screen/intro by Paradox.

The '[cr PDX]' bit in the filename of the downloads in the first post means 'cracked by Paradox' :)

[Simmo76]

Ah, ok. I cannot access the links at the moment (I'm at work and they're all blocked), so couldn't see that... Cheers.

[skateblind]

Graham -> http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=685808&postcount=27 ;)
Update my score you slacker! :p

[Graham Humphrey]

That'll teach you for editing and not making a new post then won't it ;)

[rexsu]

Table 1 : 652,020,000
Table 2 : 744,715,260
Table 3 : 594,228,000

Total : 1,990,963,260
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/599/eabsuperleaguepinballil.th.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/i/eabsuperleaguepinballil.jpg/)
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/599/eabsuperleaguepinballil.th.jpg (http://img706.imageshack.us/i/eabsuperleaguepinballil.jpg/)
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/599/eabsuperleaguepinballil.th.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/i/eabsuperleaguepinballil.jpg/)

[capehorn]

971,561,620 + 1,162,445,220 + 348,404,000 = 2,482,410,840

Got the Babehunt feature, presumably the ultimate feature of the table and promptly lost the ball without scoring from it.

[seuden]

Come on peeps get your arses playing ViroCop, these pinball games are ten a penny!! Don't get me wrong they're not bad but same old same old!!!

[Retroplay]

BabeWatch
No change
217,227,240

Extreme Sports
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/Spyrus/DSC00556.jpg
347,906,000

Law'N justice
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/Spyrus/DSC00554.jpg
505,601,990

Total score
1,070,735,230

That's it, I'm fed up with pinball for now.. :crazy

[capehorn]

647,157,000

New Total 2,781,163,840

I've found the IPFs to be a huge improvement on the ADFs

[Graham Humphrey]

Sorry capehorn - I had to remove your link as it's against the rules to link to IPFs on here.

[capehorn]

Ok.

[rexsu]

Table 1 : 1,503,821,190
Table 2 : 1,166,857,420

New Total: 3,264,906,610
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/599/eabsuperleaguepinballil.th.jpg (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/eabsuperleaguepinballil.jpg/)
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/599/eabsuperleaguepinballil.th.jpg (http://img718.imageshack.us/i/eabsuperleaguepinballil.jpg/)

[mailman]

Improvement on table 1. No changes in the second and third table.

Table 1: 636,955,060
Table 2: 574,139,620
Table 3: 458,570,940

Total: 1,669,665,620

[Graham Humphrey]

Last day for this one too. Of course.

[john4p]

http://i28.tinypic.com/2updaw9.png

http://i25.tinypic.com/xonukg.png

http://i25.tinypic.com/2cmlrgl.png

Law 'n Justice: 575,686,710
Babewatch: 105,759,730
Extreme Sports: 254,075,000 (didn't end after I lost my last ball - so no bonus...)

Total: 935,521,440

[john4p]

http://i25.tinypic.com/2as4fa.png

Law 'n Justice: 575,686,710
Babewatch: 256,769,850
Extreme Sports: 254,075,000

Total: 1,086,531,560

[Graham Humphrey]

This one, of course, is finished too.

[capehorn]

You are all not going to like the scores I am going to post in a couple of days =)

Did you not feel the need to post these?

[mihcael]

I have updated the scores in the Pinball Hall of Fame (http://www.lemonamiga.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5975).

If anyone has some highscores they have achieved previously or since the comp finished, post them in the HOF thread over at lemon. ;)

[Anakirob]

Did you not feel the need to post these?
Nope, I didn't need to. But in excess of one billion points on all three tables.
I might submit them to the pinball hall of fame sometime, if I feel like it =)

[Graham Humphrey]

Thankfully this scenario didn't arise once more but I don't think deliberately holding back scores in that way is particularly sporting and that sort of thing hasn't gone down well in the past.