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Dimlow
11 May 2009, 22:32
Got something on the way for you all..............

DoogUK Knows all about it, but will he tell?????????

DoogUK
11 May 2009, 22:33
:-x

Zetr0
11 May 2009, 22:42
I await with baited breath....

BTW.... the wifie bought me this last week

http://www.allendale-stores.co.uk/pcb/images/474-station.jpg

Dimlow
11 May 2009, 22:44
Oh, I want one, do ya think she will buy me one too ?

Zetr0
11 May 2009, 22:48
to be honest, if you promise hardcore lovin's its highly possible LOL

well thats what I used!!! ;)

Anemos
11 May 2009, 22:49
I await with baited breath....

BTW.... the wifie bought me this last week

http://www.allendale-stores.co.uk/pcb/images/474-station.jpg

my wife,this for me :D

http://www.roussakis-bros.gr/productimages2/133.jpg
Tig - Plasma

Dimlow
11 May 2009, 22:54
Ha, now that this thread is well and truly spoilt, Ill be posting the goodies in another thread some time soon...... keep waiting

Id just love a 150 Mhz Apollo 1260 !!

DoogUK
11 May 2009, 23:04
Is like an excited school kid over finaly getting an 060 :lol

cosmicfrog
12 May 2009, 10:04
drool drool

ribbit ribbit

Dimlow
12 May 2009, 18:36
@DoogUK

Doctors Report:::

Well the surgery has been completed, it was touch ang go for a second. But now she is doing well and speeding along at 106.14 Mips At 80 Mhz Stable! She was very brave, but she made it in the end !!!!

Doogy, You are now a proud father of an Apollo 1260, Look after her and keep her cool. Oh and dont forget to Install the correct drivers.

@Others Pron to follow soon.

DoogUK
12 May 2009, 18:38
:bowdown:bowdown:bowdown



<Hands the cigars out>

Dimlow
12 May 2009, 18:47
21363
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DoogUK
12 May 2009, 18:50
Is she running nice and cool?

Dimlow
12 May 2009, 18:53
Err No, not as cool as my own CPU. You will need a fan i think. But i have run her for half an hour and all is well with no fan.

On the other hand she is a lot cooler than the 040!

Dimlow
12 May 2009, 18:55
Also i put your 16 Mb sim in the second socket and it now has 48Mb ram and still working fine.

PS you need to change your sig

DoogUK
12 May 2009, 19:13
Excellent!

I must say to anyone reading this thread, Dimlow has sent me photo's of the whole process and the quality of his work is outstanding!

Zetr0
12 May 2009, 20:53
Pics! Pics! Pics! Pics! Pics! Pics! Pics! Pics!

!!!now!!

Dimlow
12 May 2009, 20:54
Im working on a web page / blog. Its up now, but not much on it, if you can find it! you will see the pics. But i will post here when its done

Dimlow
12 May 2009, 21:33
Oh, i give up on this Eblogger thing, it wont let me put pictures where i want them, so for now, im uploading them all to a Web photo album. Its says is got 46 minutes remaining, there are loads of pictures all full size i hope.

Will post a link when its done.

Dimlow
12 May 2009, 21:43
Well ok, here are the pics, captions have been added, and you could almost do the conversion from these pics, i have just left out a few details


http://picasaweb.google.com/Dimlow/Apollo1240UpgradeTo126080Mhz

Chain
12 May 2009, 22:18
well done!

what settings are you using on hotair station and how long it takes to heat up all solder points?

Zetr0
12 May 2009, 22:42
http://picasaweb.google.com/Dimlow/Apollo1240UpgradeTo126080Mhz

:shocked

......I think that is the most beautifull link in the world......

:shocked

Dimlow
12 May 2009, 22:53
This ant so beautiful....

21365

DoogUK, you need to help me clean up!

Dimlow
12 May 2009, 22:56
Well actually, i just thought Zetro, since there is a naked Amiga 1200 with a 1260 in it, in that pic, you may think its beautiful!

Dimlow
12 May 2009, 23:05
well done!

what settings are you using on hot air station and how long it takes to heat up all solder points?

Oh i missed this, first i use about 180 -200 deg with 50% air,for about 5-10 minutes whilst making coffee, just to warm up the board , then i knock it up to full power 450 deg c, Max Air, for about 4-5 minutes and keep fluxing it with a brush. then when brushed and i first notice that the solder has melted. I tap it out! with the brush handle. i don't think the hot air gun is knocking out 450 deg because of the large nozzle, but it works.

If you go straight for the hot air without preheating, you end up burning the board!

the nozzle is a AOYUE Y1203

DoogUK
12 May 2009, 23:33
Sits drooling :lol

lopos2000
13 May 2009, 00:48
Nice pics and work Dimlow.

cosmicfrog
13 May 2009, 11:54
cool collection of pics Dimlow, nice work, Very nice work indeed, thanks for shareing

twizzle
13 May 2009, 12:17
Dimlow, Exellent workmanship , with clear detailed pictures :great
me thinks you will be having some work coming your way soon after this excercise :)

DoogUK
15 May 2009, 12:31
Card recieved back and working blisteringly fast!

Very very good job...thankyou

Dimlow
15 May 2009, 13:10
see, i told ya that 040 was slow!

DoogUK
15 May 2009, 13:44
see, i told ya that 040 was slow!


:lol:lol:lol

My Blizzard 1240 seems positively neanderthal in speed terms now!

DoogUK
15 May 2009, 22:31
Now for a session of 060 demo's coupled with a bottle of Shiraz....pure bliss! :great

wXR
16 May 2009, 17:11
Wow! And this 060 has an FPU? :-)

DoogUK
16 May 2009, 17:14
Yes it's a full 060

wXR
16 May 2009, 20:28
Lucky dog! :-)

DoogUK
16 May 2009, 20:52
Dimlows upgrading my Blizzard 1240 next.......i'll be sooo lucky then.

alexh
16 May 2009, 20:58
I was of the understanding that Blizzards didn't like overclocking as much as the Apollo.

DoogUK
16 May 2009, 21:00
Its the scsi kits that dont so i'm putting an xc68060rc60 in it and keeping the 60mhz clock as i use the scsi kit.

Paul_s
16 May 2009, 23:25
nice work :D I flux over accelerators all the time :D

cv643d
16 May 2009, 23:39
LOL, I want to try to squeze my full 060 Apollo 1240 to 80 MHz too :)

rkauer
17 May 2009, 06:31
Just change the crystal, then.

solaris104
17 May 2009, 09:19
My friend has upgrading B1240 > 1260 overclocked to 80MHz. Upgrade is easy and stable with MC68060 rev.6.

alexh
17 May 2009, 09:27
I heard both the memory controller and the scsi controller on B1240 do not like being overclocked so I question if this is true.

solaris104
17 May 2009, 09:40
SCSI controller has limit cca 60MHz.

DoogUK
17 May 2009, 10:17
My friend has upgrading B1240 > 1260 overclocked to 80MHz. Upgrade is easy and stable with MC68060 rev.6.


I've seen the blog on that blizz running at 80mhz.

Alex i believe its the memory controller on the scsi kit that bombs out as people remove the simm on the scsi kit and can then go further than 60mhz.

alexh
17 May 2009, 11:26
Even the fastest 50ns SIMM would be too slow at zero wait states with a fixed 1:1 clock with the CPU.

I think the Apollo boards have a jumper to run RAM controller asynchronously (slower) than CPU.

Dont think the Blizzards can do this can they? The CPU060 tool can tell the controller to add wait states which in theory could help.

DoogUK
17 May 2009, 12:16
the apollo memory speed is jumpered down to 40mhz..thats what makes then so overclockable...all the reading i have done suggests the blizzards are happy at 60mhz.....any more and you start getting problems.

cv643d
17 May 2009, 15:19
I dont know how to use the interweb.

Which crystal do I need?

DoogUK
17 May 2009, 17:53
an 80mhz one....what revision cpu do you have in your apollo?

Dimlow
17 May 2009, 23:42
Oh My!

NovaCoder
18 May 2009, 01:06
Card recieved back and working blisteringly fast!

Very very good job...thankyou

So how much faster does WB seem (if any), I'm talking about open windows, rendering icons, scrolling window contents that kind of thing?

I noticed that when I upgraded from the standard 020 @ 14mhz with 8mb FASTRAM to my 030 @ 50mhz I did not get the WB speed increase that I was expecting in OS 3.9 using AGA. This was because the AGA chipset was the limiting factor. Obviously if you apply any patches to use the expansion card's CPU rather than the Amiga chipset then you should get a performance increase (eg FBlit).

Some demos for you to try out on your new 060:

http://ada.untergrund.net/showdemo.php?demoid=691

http://ada.untergrund.net/showdemo.php?demoid=103

http://ada.untergrund.net/showdemo.php?demoid=407

Have fun :D

DoogUK
18 May 2009, 01:34
Thanks, i'm using ClsssicWB which has Fblit etc installed, messing around in workbench is definately a lot more responsive, windows and icons are redrawn almost instantaneously.

And then there's the full rate 256kpbs mp3 playing, multitasking etc......worth every bit.

Shadowfire
15 June 2009, 04:18
Zetr0, sorry to say this, but we had those exact same desoldering units at my last job. They are GARBAGE. :( We purchased three, and within a month, two of them had shorted heating elements. The tips they provide and sell are also garbage, although if you have a proper vise and drill press, you can modify Hakko tips (which won't open up after using them for a day). I'm afraid that you do really get what you pay for here.

Zetr0
15 June 2009, 18:58
Zetr0, sorry to say this, but we had those exact same desoldering units at my last job. They are GARBAGE. :( We purchased three, and within a month, two of them had shorted heating elements. The tips they provide and sell are also garbage, although if you have a proper vise and drill press, you can modify Hakko tips (which won't open up after using them for a day). I'm afraid that you do really get what you pay for here.


uh oh!

well as long as it lasts a couple of jobs it willpay for itself I hope :(