EAB/Lemon Super League 2009: Round 3 - Super Obliteration

[Graham Humphrey]

EAB/Lemon Super League 2009: Round 3 - Super Obliteration (http://hol.abime.net/5412)

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2886/superobliteration01.png http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/5827/superobliteration02.png http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/4042/superobliteration03.png

Starts: 00:01 March 1
Finishes: 23:59 March 21

Rules

Post screenshots of your scores in this thread, and write your score underneath. You can enter as many times as you like within the round's time frame.

No cheating of any kind (including score leeching) - this includes save states. If you suspect a contestant of cheating then don't post it in public (anyone who does so will have their posts edited or deleted) - please PM me, Biscuit or mihcael and we will investigate it. If we find anyone guilty of cheating then they will be banned for the entire season.

Please only post your score on either the EAB or Lemon forums. If you have already played this year you have to post your score on the same forum for the whole season. If you are new, the one you post on first will be your "team" for the whole season. However you are welcome to discuss the compo, game etc. on the other forum if you wish.

Remember, anyone can join in at any time. Have fun and feel free to ask any questions you may have.

Downloads

- Amiga Power 38a coverdisk ADZ (http://www.guildserver.co.uk/AMR/amiga_power_coverdisks/ap38_1994_06_d38a.adz)
- WHDLoad-installed (http://www.whdownload.com/games/Update-2007-05-07/SuperObliteration_v1.1.zip)

Extras

- Full rules and FAQ (http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=41652)
- Results and standings (http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=42485)
- Lemon thread (http://www.lemonamiga.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6142)

Final Scores - EAB, Lemon

1. john4p - 545,800
2. TodaysForgotten - 540,800
3. rexsu - 452,450
4. off1k - 433,500
5. xpect - 410,050
6. mihcael - 291,100
7. Biscuit - 268,150
8. ChrisN82 - 209,200
9. TheCyberDruid - 166,800
10. Simon Humphrey - 156,150
11. cane - 145,900
12. Elth - 137,550
13. Strygalldwir - 136,950
14. LinesMachine - 129,350
15. Graham Humphrey - 123,150
16. jPV - 112,250
17. mipe - 108,750
18. mailman - 69,550

[Graham Humphrey]

And just a quick note - there's no high score tables in this game (I thought there were but obviously my memory is playing tricks on me) but you can pause the game even after Game Over appears so it's easy to take a pic of your score if you are on a real Amiga.

[Graham Humphrey]

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/1261/superobliterationscore1.jpg

78,200

[mailman]

69,550

[Graham Humphrey]

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/1733/superobliterationscore2.jpg

85,200

[TodaysForgotten]

121,200

[rexsu]

Here my first attempt: 85850.
Promising score for TodaysForgotten !

[TodaysForgotten]

155,800

Finally some games I like. Thanks rexxie!

[TheCyberDruid]

Well, guess this round will be a 0 point round again ;)

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/6725/superobliteration007.png

42,550

Guess I'll play against john for the last place ;) I think you like this game as much as I do john :D

[john4p]

@TCD: Played this only for about 10 minutes. The main character wears a Turrican suit - so it can't be that bad... ;)

No, I like this game. You can shoot (at a comfortable fire-rate) in many directions and jump around. It's a quite well done PD-game.

[off1k]

Cool game, I like it:agree

heres my first score: 121050

[TodaysForgotten]

221,600

[off1k]

Hmmm got a little addicted to this game, been playin it for the last 3 hours or so, only because of level 15 and its nastiness:evilgrin.
Got past it after many goes only to die on level 18 with a silly mistake:banghead

Almost taken top spot off ya TF



new score: 216900

[TodaysForgotten]

Please, take it. There is too much responsibility on top. (:

[AmigaFriend]

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2668/superobliteration.th.png (http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2668/superobliteration.png)

248,450

[TodaysForgotten]

280,800

[rexsu]

It is a good game but too hard imho !
Pang is much more playable ;)
Here's my new score: 233,200

[Graham Humphrey]

Very very small improvement, barely worth posting but what the heck.

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/8859/superobliterationscore3.jpg

88,400

[TheCyberDruid]

Same here... ;)

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6245/superobliteration008.png

50.000

[rexsu]

Do not be discouraged !
You need training for each table to see the reaction of your weapons.
Try with 2 buttons if you can.

My new score: 253,450

[TheCyberDruid]

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1466/superobliteration009.png

63,600

Doesn't change anything, but it's a bit better ;)

[rexsu]

Practice makes perfect ;)

[Graham Humphrey]

This is a better improvement. Practice does indeed make perfect... or at least slightly better ;)

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1570/superobliterationscore4.jpg

123,150

[TheCyberDruid]

Phew, not the last place anymore... though guess it will only take some hours for mailman ;)

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6003/superobliteration010.png

75,900

Still it's not my kind of game :p

[TheCyberDruid]

And another (irrelevant) improvement ;)

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2116/superobliteration011.png

88,550

[Graham Humphrey]

But you're slowly catching up though ;)

[off1k]

Levels 23 and 24 are being a bitch for me at the moment and thats only if I get past level 15 which still gives me headaches :banghead



Updated score: 262150

[off1k]

Finally had close to a dream run with this game, got through L15 and L23 with minimal loss.
Crashed and burned on level 29


heres my new score: 364100

[TodaysForgotten]

Since you are so close to beating the game I will let you in on a tip. When you finish level 30 and the time winds down for the bonus, pause it when it hits zero. Otherwise, when the game ends your score will show as whatever the score was prior to beating the game. Learned that the hardway.

[john4p]

Haven't played this game very often, yet. But I'm most comfortable with the "Directional Flick & Lock"-setting (and two buttons).

What do you use?

[TheCyberDruid]

Just 'Directional' and two buttons. Works quite well for me, because I can't stand the 'Lock' setting ;)

[john4p]

But with that setting you can't fire to, for example, up/left while running to the right. I highly doubt off1k and TF beat this game with the standard directional-setting.

[off1k]

@TF
Thanks for the tip, you must already have a good score mate but no show and tell:blased

Using 2 button directional lock with analog joypad, havnt tried flick yet and dont know if I will. Wont play this over next few days, might give deluxe galaga another go and try to improve my slack score but Im just not into that at the moment:sad.

[john4p]

Thanks. I think I don't really need the "flick"-part - so I'll change to "directional lock".

[AmigaFriend]

Graham, Rexsu is in 1st and 3rd place? Double accounts? :D

[AmigaFriend]

Haven't played this game very often, yet. But I'm most comfortable with the "Directional Flick & Lock"-setting (and two buttons).

What do you use?


Directional only for me. The others settings I find annoying for my style.

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4221/superobli11.th.png (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=superobli11.png)

353.250

[TodaysForgotten]

No, I haven't be able to replicate my clearing run yet. I use directional lock.

[Graham Humphrey]

Graham, Rexsu is in 1st and 3rd place? Double accounts? :D

So you spotted my deliberate mistake then ;)

[john4p]

And not updating xpect's score is your revenge? ;)


After off1k's and TF's responses I'm now convinced more than ever that "directional lock" is the best control method... :great

[Graham Humphrey]

Whoops.

Sorry, bad day...

[off1k]

After off1k's and TF's responses I'm now convinced more than ever that "directional lock" is the best control method... :great

xpect has a good score just using directional only, think its just a matter of what your used to I suppose:) but yeah go directional lock:great

what do peeps here use for direction? digital pad or analog stick or joystick

[john4p]

I use the dpad of a Dualshock I Playstation-controller.

[off1k]

using analog of a logitech dual action (pretty much a playstation copy) my dpad on this is a little fluffed.
I do have a 2 player arcade setup but the keyboard encoder has failed on me:(, would have most likely been using that.

[TodaysForgotten]

Analog of a 3rd party USB ps3 clone.

[rexsu]

So TodaysForgotten, Off1k, Xpect et John4p use the two sticks to play, one to move the hero, the other to direct the shooting, is that right?

I use a simple saturn pad with directionnal flick and two buttons :help

[TodaysForgotten]

So TodaysForgotten, Off1k, Xpect et John4p use the two sticks to play, one to move the hero, the other to direct the shooting, is that right?

I use a simple saturn pad with directionnal flick and two buttons :help


I thought that was maybe a possibility and i'm not even sure if the game is that high-tech to do that. I use the left analog to aim my gun and the fire button locks it into the place. Only one analog.

[john4p]

So TodaysForgotten, Off1k, Xpect et John4p use the two sticks to play, one to move the hero, the other to direct the shooting, is that right?
Now that's an excellent idea! While no one of us does that there is the 2 joysticks-option in the game - and thanks to WinUAE we really could map one joystick to the left analog or the dpad and the second stick to the right analog. :great

[AmigaFriend]

xpect has a good score just using directional only, think its just a matter of what your used to I suppose:) but yeah go directional lock:great

what do peeps here use for direction? digital pad or analog stick or joystick


Yeah, for me is more intuitive and i get better scores with directional only. I avoid better the rocks with just a quick off on the fire button, as the joystick is already up. I don't know but for me works way better.

I use a Logitech Wingman Cordless, and use always the analog pads for games.

[john4p]

Now tried the 2-joysticks-mode on my dualshock-pad. Works a treat! :great

I can play this now like Super Stardust HD on my PS3! (Or like Geometry Wars for you X-Bots... ;))

[Biscuit]

I'm using the two stick option too - with Comp Pro. Feels much better, but my left hand needs a little work.

[john4p]

This games' coder was a f***in genius! :great

[TheCyberDruid]

Ha, crossed the 100k border :spin ;)

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2750/superobliteration012.png

119,150

[Graham Humphrey]

You're not far off me now... I need to get playing this again.

[TheCyberDruid]

You're not far off me now... I need to get playing this again.

Don't worry too much Graham ;) Level 11 is just nuts :nuts Had two lives left and even got one extra life in there, but no chance of finishing it :crying Maybe I will try again, but I guess that's it for me :agree

[Graham Humphrey]

I can't get past level 11 either, it took me ages to get past level 8 and 9 so God only knows if I'll get past this bit before the compo actually ends ;)

[TheCyberDruid]

Good to hear I'm not the only one ;) This game is quite fun, but these undestructable spheres make it really hard :sad Respect for everyone that can get to level 30 :shocked :great

[john4p]

The 2 joysticks-option is really highly recommendable. Great fun! If you wanna try it, too, and have a gamepad with 2 sticks, this is the setup in WinUAE:

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/2668/superobliteration.png

I use the dpad to move (and jump) and the right analog stick to fire - no other buttons involved.

Sometimes the main sprite behaved weird: it jumped and ran around unforced. That's why you also have to deactivate the mouse movement in WinUAE:

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5505/mouseh.png

Now the gameplay experience is perfect. :great

[TheCyberDruid]

So no need to press any firebutton? Well maybe I give it a try, but I think level 11 will still kill me :p

[john4p]

Yes, no firebutton needed - only the dpad (or left stick) to move and right stick to fire.

Level 11 is one of the hardest because of its three giant rocks resulting in rocks everywhere - and you have nowhere to hide. I always grab the shield (and other stuff on the way) and then position myself at the left wall. Always jump over the sphere - but stay at the wall. Mostly fire up/right, of course - and do collect the second shield when it appears.
If there should be too many rocks on the left side at one point you can try to run over to the right side (risky...) and take them out safely.

[TheCyberDruid]

M'Kay, so I will set up the two joystick config for my impact pad and try level 11 the way you suggested :D Wish me luck john ;) Oh and thanks for the info :great

[john4p]

That's the spirit - good luck! :great

Btw., select one-button for this mode if you want to jump with the dpad or left stick (with "two buttons" you could map the L- or R-Trigger as jump-button - but that's unnecessary complicated).

[TheCyberDruid]

Btw., select one-button for this mode if you want to jump with the dpad or left stick (with "two buttons" you could map the L- or R-Trigger as jump-button - but that's unnecessary complicated).

Okay, will remember that :)

[TodaysForgotten]

372,200

[rexsu]

The diagonal flick two buttons one stick control is not bad too, the proof: 392,900 :D

[TheCyberDruid]

You make me sick folks ;) Really you do :D Congrats for your scores TF and rexsu :great

[Graham Humphrey]

This is warming up rather nicely now.

[TheCyberDruid]

This is warming up rather nicely now.

*cough* You always forget to remove rexsu's last score Graham ;)

[Graham Humphrey]

Fixed.

Nothing personal rexsu ;)

[rexsu]

@TCD
Thank you mate and don't give up, try to analyze the trajectory of meteors according to the angle of your shot, the reaction will be always the same. Each stage has a solution.
Don't worry Graham: To err is human ;)

It's funny because we scored very high with very different controls for some of us !
I think the victory will be over 400,000 :crazy

[AmigaFriend]

You guys are absolutely right! :agree This dual stick configuration is a real breeze!

The game turns much easier with this.

Thanks for rexsu and john4p. you guys had a terrific idea! :great

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9373/superobli17.th.png (http://img22.imageshack.us/my.php?image=superobli17.png)


410.050

[TodaysForgotten]

415.700

edit still using one analog! i dont think i could get use to dual stickies

[off1k]

Still using 1 analog stick here aswell but decided to give directional flick lock a go, dont think i want to give 2 sticks a go, dont like the idea of using up or triggers for jump with this game.

@john4p
I noticed you still had a couple of lives left with your score, you probably would have scored over 400k if you used them up, lots of points in last level. After saying that, I stuffed my last 2 lives by dying a bit quicker than I wanted to but still beat my completed score.

So after about a 4 hour session today with flick lock mode

heres my new score: 433500

[Graham Humphrey]

You guys are all nuts.

Fantastic scores all.

[TheCyberDruid]

You guys are all nuts.

Second that ;)
It like rexsu is a kind of a prophet :p Once he mentioned the 400k mark, they all go over it :nuts :D
Insane scores guys :bowdown

[AmigaFriend]

Aaah! I just came out from hibernation, and look what happened...

Nothing like setting a target, hem, boys?

Congrats to all, we are all making great scores. :great

Still two days to go! :crazy

[Graham Humphrey]

I think you'll find it's a bit longer than that ;)

[AmigaFriend]

I think you'll find it's a bit longer than that ;)


As usual...

Between all the leagues I play I don't know where I am. :D

[john4p]

@xpect: Nice you jumped on the "2 joysticks-train". :great

dont think i want to give 2 sticks a go, dont like the idea of using up or triggers for jump with this game.
I usually hate jumping by pressing "up" (prefer the X-button on my Dualshock) - but since I'm currently playing Street Fighter IV a lot I'm kinda used to it at the moment... ;)

I noticed you still had a couple of lives left with your score, you probably would have scored over 400k if you used them up, lots of points in last level. After saying that, I stuffed my last 2 lives by dying a bit quicker than I wanted to but still beat my completed score.
Thanks for the tip - I just wanted to beat this game. Maybe I'll try to get a better score later. But I'll mainly focus on DeLuxe Galaga now.

Truly insane scores. :great

[rexsu]

It like rexsu is a kind of a prophet :p Once he mentioned the 400k mark, they all go over it :nuts :D
:bowdown ;)
I didn't stay long in the first position, the worse i am no longer on the podium ! :laughing
The level is very high, it's impressive. :great

[TheCyberDruid]

Argh! Got through level 11 (thanks again john :great) just to discover that 14 is really annoying :sad Oh dear this game is really making me sick :p

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8283/superobliteration013.png

166,800

[Biscuit]

You'll love Level 15...


And seriously guys - those scores are hardcore. :great

[TheCyberDruid]

You'll love Level 15...

:banghead :crying :mad
I knew it! Dammit... :p
I should really stop it before my joypad has to suffer ;)

[off1k]

:laughing yeah level 15 gave me nightmares at times, could have a clean run to 15 then lose most or all my lives but have found that level much easier in flick lock mode.

@TCD, your starting to get the hang of this game mate but I did think this game would have been your bitch after seeing what you did in contra 3:bowdown
The way I did L14 was to shoot the one just to the right from start then the next 2 to the right then run all the way to right of screen then shoot other 3 that come towards you, then just blow away the rest, Im assuming your having problems with the small rocks at start.

[TheCyberDruid]

Cheers off1k :D It's just these rocks all over the screen and I run and jump and they keep hunting me :crying ;)
Indeed these small rocks kill me each time I reach level 14 :banghead Will try your tips mate and see if I can get past this one too :)

[cane]

My humble score 113800:

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/2886/superobliteration01.png

[Graham Humphrey]

Slightly random perhaps but while playing last night (and completely failing to beat my score, natch) after a few goes I noticed the big asteroid was corrupted, the graphics for it turned to garbage, but as soon as I broke it up it was fine. Very odd. Anyone else experienced this?

[mihcael]

Yep! not sure why??
hasnt done it for a week, but it done it today!!

[cane]

Yeah, I also noticed that. I'm playing whdload version, maybe that's the problem.

[TheCyberDruid]

Yeah, I also noticed that. I'm playing whdload version, maybe that's the problem.

I'm playing the disk version and had no corruptions so far. Haven't played it for longer than half an hour though.

[Graham Humphrey]

Yeah I'm using the WHDLoad version too. Not a big deal though but a bit odd why it should only happen at random very occasionally.

[Biscuit]

Had that yesterday too. I just quit. Fate was telling me I'd been playing too long.

[TodaysForgotten]

I am not using the WHDload version and i will receive this error if i play more than a couple of games. No way around it :( it does suck on the later levels as the rocks are actually invisible until you "uncover" them.

[Graham Humphrey]

Oh right, thanks - so it's just a bug in the game then but one that could well hinder you later on.

[TodaysForgotten]

442700

[cane]

Slight update 145900

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5827/superobliteration02.png

[TodaysForgotten]

540,800

[rexsu]

Incredible score TF :shocked
This score seems unreachable with my method!
How did you do?
I thinked that 480/490k was the maximum score, i don't understand :nuts

Bravo !

[TodaysForgotten]

(: i'll talk strategy after the night ends. Would hate to divulge information prematurely and have someone overtake my score like last year or beat my score and in ways have me eat my own words. Should have gave galaga another go as i see xpect edged out my score. Kinda wanted to take first in both and get back into the running. Tried to give it a go a few hours ago and just did some retarded shit.

[Biscuit]

just did some retarded shit.
Perfectly describes my three weeks of Galaga. So frustrating.

[rexsu]

452,450 it's over for me :crying

[TheCyberDruid]

Perfectly describes my three weeks of Galaga. So frustrating.

Second that :laughing ;)

[mihcael]

(: i'll talk strategy after the night ends. Would hate to divulge information prematurely and have someone overtake my score like last year or beat my score and in ways have me eat my own words. Should have gave galaga another go as i see xpect edged out my score. Kinda wanted to take first in both and get back into the running. Tried to give it a go a few hours ago and just did some retarded shit.

I only made it as far as 26, but i would imagine if you have a perfect run you would have maybe 10 lives to spare (i have had as many as 8) then you just pick a level that has lots of diamonds and use up all those surplus lives, ive heard that the final level has lots of diamonds.... Close?

btw, Great Score!!

[TodaysForgotten]

Thanks guys.

Ya, my run was perfect to an extent. I made it there with 8 lives (9 total) and milked the last level. I averaged 19-20k per life, but botched twice on two runs, netting roughly 10k. Projected score would have been 560,000.

I also did the levels pretty quickly. Off the top of my head my normal times were as follows:

level 1 finished in 48-50 seconds
level 2 finished in 48-50 seconds
level 3 finished in 28-29
level 4 finished in 40-44
level 5 dont recall
level 6 32-36
level 7 32-34
level 8 i should have 81,000-83,000
etc etc

I also made an aggressive effort to pick up all drops. Including slow and reverse.
so if your times are under those, that thousands of points lost on level time alone.

[TheCyberDruid]

Really impressive run you made there TF :bowdown I should have played more often to get further, but yet I lack the time to do so :( Well I guess it's time to congratulate you ;)

[mihcael]

...

level 1 finished in 48-50 seconds
level 2 finished in 48-50 seconds
level 3 finished in 28-29
level 4 finished in 40-44
level 5 dont recall
level 6 32-36
level 7 32-34
level 8 i should have 81,000-83,000
etc etc

...

I wouldn't mind seeing a video if you have time! :great

heres some of mine,
1, 47 secs left
2, 47
3, 35 (you missed a couple hundred points here :D
4, 42
5, 42-43
6, 32

My problem is the amount of time i had to play to make it as far as i did, im just completly sick of playing it now!!

[Graham Humphrey]

And this one is all over too.

Results update and new round thread to follow soon...

[rexsu]

For me
1- 48s
2- 48s
3- 37s
After i can't remember, it varies according to the levels; i'm focused on diamonds ;)

My strategy was to keep all my lives until level 27, then lose all these lives by the latest micro-meteor. Then, complete the lvl 28, 29 and 30 with my last life :crazy
Obviously it was a poor strategy and i think the mono mode diagonal flick stick was not the best control. :banghead

[rexsu]

0 victory for TodaysForgotten, bad end !
The dual stick is finally the best way and especially in the hands of John4p :great

[AmigaFriend]

0 victory for TodaysForgotten, bad end !
The dual stick is finally the best way and especially in the hands of John4p :great


Yep it was. Congrats john4p. Awesome score!

[john4p]

Thanks to you both - and special thanks to rexsu for leading me to the idea of using two sticks! :agree

Congrats to xpect for beating our shooter-maniac in the ultimate PD-shoot'em up and thus taking the lead in the league. :great

[TodaysForgotten]

I wouldn't mind seeing a video if you have time! :great

heres some of mine,
1, 47 secs left
2, 47
3, 35 (you missed a couple hundred points here :D
4, 42
5, 42-43
6, 32

My problem is the amount of time i had to play to make it as far as i did, im just completly sick of playing it now!!

If you still want to see it, sure. I'm not sure how well i'll do. Played this game way too much and with being a perfectionist could make it a long-haul.

Man i need to start finishing my great runs in games instead of ending them in either a good or very good status due to botches. Snubbed twice! (:

[mihcael]

Dont want it to be perfect, just want to get a gist of how you do it! :great

[TodaysForgotten]

Dont want it to be perfect, just want to get a gist of how you do it! :great
Alright bud. I apologize for botching level 15/19 8 times. I had a few things going that were chugging winuae at times and the ledges were "slippery" feeling that and i botched hardcore the first go.


I think i got 473k on this run, but anyhow you get to see what i do on each level and how to milk the last level.

http://files.filefront.com/13513463

[mihcael]

Thats some wicked nice reflexes!!

Like the way you tackled 13, more guts then i
18 was nice too, you dont mind getting amonst it!! :great

Thanks for that, very enjoyable watch (except for all the close calls ;))

[TodaysForgotten]

Ha, thanks man. As i said those deaths bring out the perfectionist (reckless) in me which leads to aggressive play to make up for death/ lost time. Glad you liked it (:

[off1k]

Hey well played fellas
congrats to john4p and xpect for winning games:bowdown:great
bad luck to TodaysForgotten, 2 silvers is still excellent and you collected most points for the round:great

I was pretty much gamed out about a week ago and couldnt get back into it:sad

[Biscuit]

I think i got 473k on this run, but anyhow you get to see what i do on each level and how to milk the last level.

http://files.filefront.com/13513463
Cheers for that. You do get stuck right in. The way you handle level 21, and a lot of close close moments.

[TodaysForgotten]

After watching the video I can tell things look a bit closer than they actually are. The video is somewhat choppy in ways. I guess the 50fps but that situation in 21 wasnt actually that close. I never thought I'm going to eat it. I thought, play precise so you do not eat it. That and not having a fully powered spread makes it interesting.