Run WHDL Games from foppies

[Vars191]

Hi
is it possible to run these games from floppies?
Vars

[Akira]

Why?

Oh, I guess your other thread explains it.

I doubt they would run, but one could try. No one ever had such an idea that I know of... Why don't you just get a hard drive?

[Vars191]

:evilgrinI like the feel of a floppy

[haynor]

Some smaller game images can actually fit on 1 disk so they will run. Generally in WHDLoad + image + sytem files are no more than 880 kb then yes.

[Hungry Horace]

games which dont fit on single floppies can be broken up, and their respective data/images unpacked to RAM: (if you have enough) and then run.

It's criminally inefficient on memory though.

[Vars191]

:lol That is not solving the problem, all I want to do is stick a floppy into an amiga and it goes, no mucking about

[xpect]

:lol That is not solving the problem, all I want to do is stick a floppy into an amiga and it goes, no mucking about

Why don't you use the floppy versions, from a start? It's the same games I think.

I already know you don't like crack screens. Either you use originals where they can be found, but honestly how long could it take to press the left mouse button and go on with the game? :)

[musashi5150]

Or get a cracker to remove the crack screens ;)

[TheCyberDruid]

Or get a cracker to remove the crack screens ;)

If it's a DOS disk I could do it :spin ... at least the cracktro... if it doesn't crash when removed ;)

[Graham Humphrey]

I would have thought running WHDLoad games from floppy completely defeats the object of it ;)

[Vars191]

I would have thought running WHDLoad games from floppy completely defeats the object of it ;)
:evilgrin I like the feel of a floppy

[TheCyberDruid]

:evilgrin I like the feel of a floppy

You have a hotkey for that on your keyboard, right? ;)

[Rabbit80]

Run WHDL Games from foppies

What is a foppie? :p

:laughing:laughing:laughing

[TheCyberDruid]

What is a foppie? :p

:laughing:laughing:laughing

Guess something like a carp ;) Maybe Fred can tell us... :D

[Vars191]

:laughing What is a foppie? :p

:laughing:laughing:laughing
That is what you get when the L key does not work all the time

[Galahad/FLT]

I already know you don't like crack screens.

Or get over yourself!

Whether or not its right that a cracktro is on a game is subjective, but seeing as you didn't pay for the game, you've got little cause to complain about something so damned trivial!

[Vars191]

Or get over yourself!

Whether or not its right that a cracktro is on a game is subjective, but seeing as you didn't pay for the game, you've got little cause to complain about something so damned trivial!
Of course you have a bucket of money you can buy all the games you want other people don't so if you cant play nice
LEAVE

[Marcuz]

:evilgrinI like the feel of a floppy

:evilgrin I like the feel of a floppy

:evilgrin I like the feel of a floppy


if i read this phrase one more time, i will start being uncomfortable... :laughing

[haynor]

One option extra - you can pack image with xpk but in this way you need extra space for xpk archive (main decompressor and addtional xpk plugin).

[Galahad/FLT]

Of course you have a bucket of money you can buy all the games you want other people don't so if you cant play nice
LEAVE


Don't be so wet! Amiga games can be had for pennies now, its a piss poor excuse because you don't like cracktros.

I reiterate, if you don't buy the games, you have ZERO cause to complain whats on the cracked version.

If you don't like it, tough!

[haynor]

Years ago I had small program to remove cracktros from ndos disks. Actually it works for most of games.

[Galahad/FLT]

Years ago I had small program to remove cracktros from ndos disks. Actually it works for most of games.


Not necessarily, lots of cracktros had the code inside them that actually deprotected the game or had the boot loader inside them, in that case your program would prevent the game from working.

[alexh]

Or just wait until the Cyclone20 is ready and you'll be able to write IPF disk images back to disk... maybe :)

[DemonHellraiser]

Jeez! Not again :bash

As I said in the other thread, 'Press The left Mouse Button' to exit the intro etc. and stop complaining.

And what blade002 said in the other thread too

The "Scene" atmosphere with those Cracktro's is part of what made the Amiga the Amiga!!!...

I can't believe that for that split second of having to press that mouse button you are damning all cracktros, intros and trainers :rolleyes. So what if the game has an intro, usually it's the best part of any game anyway.

Maybe just for you I'll get the guys to add the intros etc to the WHDLoad's too. Then what are you gonna do (pressy that little lefty mousey button, aren't you)

If you like the feel of floppies, then put up with it and stop making complications for others who do a fantastic job by giving us the WHDLoad's. Although I can't speak for them, I certainly think they'll tell you that what your asking for defeats the whole object of creating the WHDLoad's.

Some people are not happy either way they go, If you don't want the intros etc, use the WHDLoad, else put up with the floppy versions with those excellent intros, cracktros and trainers on them. :p

[TheCyberDruid]

Calm down DH :D I think running WHDLoad games from floppies is one of the greatest ideas on this board so far... wait what does 'HD' in WHDLoad stand for again :lol You can, for the sake of it, try to remove the cracktros (which I would never do, because I'm too one of those who like them ;)), but like Galahad said that might be doomed. I kinda would also say that pressing the mouse or Esc or Return or the mouse several times isn't that bad ;)

[DemonHellraiser]

@TCD
In my early years I found out the hard way of removing the cracktro's, usually they stopped loading and generally crashed. Don't ask me why I tried this, there must of been a reason, but I cannot remember it.

If I appear angry :mad, then it's only because this is such a trivial matter it's not really worth starting threads about it.

If you could find out how many times you press the left mouse button on your PC in 1 day, I think you'd be amazed, and to only have to do this once at the cracktro screen is so unbelievably trivial I'm purley amazed and shocked :shocked that Vars191 is making such a big deal out of it :shocked

Anyway, I'm happy again and not mad 'cause it's nearly Xmas :xmas

[TheCyberDruid]

Anyway, I'm happy again and not mad 'cause it's nearly Xmas :xmas

See that's all I wanted to hear ;)
Btw : I think the same about both threads made by Vars, but don't tell anyone :D

[Adropac2]

I suppose we all have are beculiar dislikes.This reminds me of when i suddenly stopped enjoying Lego because of the little circular bumps on each of the pieces - i viewed it as an imperfection and would gather all smooth topped Lego bits to cover them - and there wasn't many of those bits to go around

Same too with the line limitation of Snes sprites that caused them to be erased in part when reaching their maxinum - i often sold any game if it had even the slightest glitch like this and that meant i got rid of loads

Looking back it was all a bit stupid really and luckily iv'e grown out of this odd behaviour, but certainly it exists in many forms it seems

[Hungry Horace]

i hate cractros as well, it's of course a personal taste thing, but it in no way enhances the gaming experience for me reading about how "awesome" said crackers etc are meant to be in scrolly-text form. (I find a demonstration of the actual cracking skill, in the form of a reliable cracked game, much more admirable)

However, this is only one of many reasons why i prefer the WHDload experience, but i still agree with DH & Galahad on this one Vars191 - it seems like none of the possibilities (use WHDload, use IPFs on emulation, buy a load of originals or live with the cractros on actual disk copies) are gonna keep you happy!

[Akira]

Original poster, you raise such a number of archaic and retarded points, that it makes no sense replying even further.
I suppose we all have are beculiar dislikes.This reminds me of when i suddenly stopped enjoying Lego because of the little circular bumps on each of the pieces - i viewed it as an imperfection and would gather all smooth topped Lego bits to cover them - and there wasn't many of those bits to go around
Someone has an interesting piece of OCD! :D
Welcome to the club.

[haynor]

Not necessarily, lots of cracktros had the code inside them that actually deprotected the game or had the boot loader inside them, in that case your program would prevent the game from working.

Hopefully not all, many games has crack inside in main code not in cracktro.

[Galahad/FLT]

Hopefully not all, many games has crack inside in main code not in cracktro.

And many had them in the cracktro, I tend to speak from experience..... if that means anything! :shocked

[Adropac2]

Someone has an interesting piece of OCD! :D
Welcome to the club.

:)I'm better now though at least with those issues mentioned.Trouble is other wierd stuff develops all the time.Pulling down on and tapping door handles to make sure they're locked is one i'm stuck with currently, and i'm guessing that's a common one as well.Bit annoying sometimes if you're tired and want to go to bed

There must be some right funny stuff people do like this

[alexh]

And many had them in the cracktro, I tend to speak from experience..... if that means anything! :shocked
I imagine this is the case for NDOS disks, but if the game was filed?

[Galahad/FLT]

I imagine this is the case for NDOS disks, but if the game was filed?

Its irrelevant whether its ndos or amigados disks, Crystal were notorious for doing it, you remove virtually any of their intros and the game won't work.

I did it on a couple, and I know plenty of other crackers did it. It wasn't solely to stop our credits from being removed, in some instances it was simply easier, load up intro, depack, run, then once exited, jump into the loader code or data from the game inside your intro, just made it easier.

[StarEye]

I'd vote for an (optional) INCLUSION of intros and cracktros on WHDload versions, they're kinda part of the experience.

[lopos2000]

What a stupid topic?
WHDload on floppies? What's next? Watching telly without a TV because I hate the commercials!!
Ass mention before if you don't like it P** o**.

[TheCyberDruid]

@lopos2000
:lol You certainly got a point there ;) I think Vars already got that his question was quite pointless (at least I hope so :p)

[lopos2000]

@lopos2000
:lol You certainly got a point there ;) I think Vars already got that his question was quite pointless (at least I hope so :p)

Thanks :evilgrin:evilgrin:evilgrin

[Hungry Horace]

What a stupid topic?
WHDload on floppies? What's next? Watching telly without a TV because I hate the commercials!!
Ass mention before if you don't like it P** o**.

:lol except in this case, it feels more like refusing to record TV to a video/external device, because you *want* to watch extra commercials!

[girv]

I'd vote for an (optional) INCLUSION of intros and cracktros on WHDload versions, they're kinda part of the experience.

Not likely to happen! Few patches work on cracked versions as it's too much work to try to support all those versions in addition to the regular, uncracked ones. You'd need to put specific code into the patch for each cracked version y'see.

[Galahad/FLT]

Not likely to happen! Few patches work on cracked versions as it's too much work to try to support all those versions in addition to the regular, uncracked ones. You'd need to put specific code into the patch for each cracked version y'see.

Agree with Girv, I do occasionally support a cracked version, but I will only support one version (that I deem common to get hold of), and the only reason I do support the odd cracked version is simply because the game itself is quite obscure to get hold of in original format because it simply didn't sell very well, or wasn't distributed very well.

I invariably don't support a cracktro, only because I can't be arsed having bugreports coming back in relation to the cracktro and not the game itself. Thats not to say all cracktros are buggy, most are not, but a lot of these cracktros were written well before the advent of 040/060 processors.

Occasionally, support for a cracked version will be default because of the way the slave is coded, in that if the cracker has cracked the game cleanly, then the slave will more than likely work with it.