My A2000 so far.

[rkauer]

OK, the thread started in hardware problems, now it's time for some pr0n (can someone please tie Zetr0 down to the chair?).

In original state, the machine was terrible: no Agnus, no working floppy, passive terminator on the HD, no keyboard, no mouse, yellowed as hell, busted PSU.

After a week I achieve:

- Working mobo;
- New SCSI cable with connectors for 6 devices with one active terminator in one end and an active pass trough terminator(!) attached to the (for the moment) original 52Mb HD, plus a NEC SCSI CD-ROM;
- Two hacked new floppy units;
- A little fix for hole of the fascia around the floppy units. (specially for Gklinger) ;)

[EDIT]: Oops! Was Fingerz! Not Gklinger! My bad memory acting again!

To dig:

- ROM version 7 (TC is providing one for me, thanks TC!) to use some cheerful HD's (over 1Gb). A question: I've found a very cheap 1080Mb SCSI unit. Do it works with ROM6.6?

- 4 1Mb 30-pin SIMM for the Meta4 (maybe I sell it);

- A GVP Impact 3001 with 4Mb (nibble RAM) and without IDE (thanks God, it doesn't work), very cheap;

- 3.1 ROM (Cozeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!);

- Maybe a GVP 28/24 with 2Mb for playing my original Quake CD! :D

OK, enough talk, let's see some pr0n!

BTW, some doubts:
- For some strange reason, the IDEFIX program is not recognizing my old registration... There is differences among controllers (IDEfix-express/SCSI controllers)?

- Where is the jumper/solder pad to change the machine from NTSC to PAL?

[Fingerlickin_B]

Loving the filler around the shorter PC floppies...colour coded too!!!! :great:great:great:great

PZ.

[coze]

Quake ? What kind of processor you have in that miggy ? AFAIK quake doesn't run well even on 060, short of a voodoo or something ... GVP spectrum won't help much either ... (maybe you wanted to mean doom ?)

[Zetr0]

@rkauer

OoooOOOOOO

my good friend, now you must take the lid off :) pleeeeaassseeee :D

[Arnie]

Take it off, Take it off, Take it off :D

[TheCorfiot]

@rkauer

OoooOOOOOO

my good friend, now you must take the lid off :) pleeeeaassseeee :D


:laughing:laughing:laughing:laughing:laughing


Ah Go on..... Tits oot for the lads.....
TC :D

PS 1GB HD maybe OK with current ROM rev, worth trying anyway..
Looking Good

[rkauer]

I will.

This night I'll take some nudity photos for people, but there is not much to see inside (yet).;)
----------------------------

Promise is promise!;)

You see the new cable, the HD on the back of the card (due clearance problems on original location - no space for the pass-trough active terminator!), the two new floppies, the Meta4 (BBoAH don't have a picture of it!!!), NEC CD-ROM, voltage selector (I live in a country with 127 and 220V!), active terminator on the end of the cable, battery area (no batt replacement yet).:cool

Close future:
- GVP Impact A3001 with 4Mb nibble RAM; :D
- New coin battery cell with germanium diode; :D
- GVP Spectrum 28/24; :D
- ROM v7 on the A2091 to use some decent HDs; :D
- Kickstart 40.63 (not a rekicked version, of course!); :D
- A "tick" generator to keep the right time inside the PSU case);
- A monitor exclusive for the A2000 :blased

[rkauer]

Nobody?

[Zetr0]

@rkauer

Ahhhhhh NICE :great

thank you most kindly my friend, my need for hardware pr0n has been sated :)

btw, what memory unit/card do you have in there?

[rkauer]

Just memory boards ATM:

1- the A2091 (with a broken 44C256-70 chip, already replaced for a 80ns unit - I was wondering what the fook made all those randoms GURUS - Thanks RAMtest!).

2- A Meta4 from IVS (BBoAH don't have a picture of it).:shocked

I'm currently searching for 3 more memory SIMMS to fit in it (I've found just one, rated at 60ns (for 30 pins SIMMS! Yay!).:D

[Fingerlickin_B]

I *think* I may have some for you :great

EDIT! http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/search.pl?product=meta4&company=


Looks like the same SIMMS, but I've only got 2mb ones & the Meta4 needs 1mb sticks max.

I've seen some though...stay tuned! ;)

PZ.

[Zetr0]

@rkauer

well my friend, 60ns 1mb 30pins simms eh?

well your m8y Zetty will be sending you a little parcel out on Monday :)

[Fingerlickin_B]

@rkauer

well my friend, 60ns 1mb 30pins simms eh?

well you m8y Zetty will be sending you a little parcel out on Monday :)

Lucky I didn't start bidding yet...I don't need these for myself :D

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/4MB-30-pin-RAM-kit-four-1MB-simms_W0QQitemZ260285583124QQihZ016QQcategoryZ74946QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

PZ.

[rkauer]

:mad That is the little bastard that causes a lot of fuss inside the A2000:

BTW: the RAMtest who comes with A2091 is excellent! Shame it don't show the position of the chip on the board itself.

That board is "funny": sometimes 440kb/s transfer, sometimes almost a full Mb/s! And I don't figure how to re-register IDEfix97 for it. Do I need to register again? How?:confused

[Fingerlickin_B]

What chip is that man (can't read the numbers)?

Do they come in any other Amigas?

PZ.

[rkauer]

That is the über common 44C256 (70ns, in this exactly case). Swapped for a 80ns unit.

Used in A3000 as Fast memory, and in a lot of other Amiga-related devices.

Sorry for the poor picture, my regular camera don't have macro function, neither my cell phone.:(

[Fingerlickin_B]

Does the slower speed make a difference?

Is the reason for using an 80ns one that the 70ns ones are not as common?

If you can tell me what to look for there might be one at my place! :great

PZ.

[rkauer]

Don't bother, m8.

As is the controller is fine, believe me. I just need to put a decent ROM revision on the board and use some really BIG HD inside the big box.

I had some GURUS on that machine, but some due the broken memory chip (replaced), others from who knows?

So I'm confident that a simple cure for it is formatting the disk and put a brand "new" Classic Workbench on it (newer HD first, of course! :D).

That old HD (52Mb) will be a perfect companion for my mint A500 r6 with external SCSI controller (AddSCSI). Yay!:great

[TheCorfiot]

@rk

Looking good my friend, Can't wait to see the GVP3001 installed too


TC :D

[rkauer]

Eheh, my exact feelings! :D

Just a matter of $$$, the guy decides to raise a bit the amount asked for it...:mad

Not too much, from 150 to 200 BRL ( ~ £58). Sigh... I have to hide some more money from wifie.:blased

[TheCorfiot]

Eheh, my exact feelings! :D

Just a matter of $$$, the guy decides to raise a bit the amount asked for it...:mad

Not too much, from 150 to 200 BRL ( ~ £58). Sigh... I have to hide some more money from wifie.:blased


Hmmm He's pushing the price up and squeezing the wallet a bit.
Still if wifey don't find out then Full 68030@28MHz with FPU is not bad at £58

Wish you all the best my friend.

TC :great

[rkauer]

BTW: that board use a overclocked CPU? A 25MHz unit or? Can I push it a little bit far, say... 33MHz?

BTW2: IDEfix problem solved! Thanks to a very special friend I have!:bowdown

[TheCorfiot]

@rk

Not overclocked, my CPU & FPU state 28MHz on them, & tbh I have been toying with the idea of heatsinking & trying to clock the CPU at 33MHz.
I know Higher speed versions of the board were available so it's just a case of changing the XTAl.

Hope you get the board soon my friend, & don't forget, If you see an AT Eprom rip it out first ........:laughing

TC :D

[rkauer]

Look at the picture:
http://www.rabayjr.com/placas/05r.jpg

You mean that socketed chip on the right side?

BTW: using a lower boot order can I use small HDs on it (<1Gb)?

[TheCorfiot]

@rk

Yep, Thats the one, same version that was on my card.

Problem is I couldn't get KS3.1 to Boot with the ROM installed. or KS2.04 if memory serves me well, but it was happy with KS1.3.

ASAIK It only supports a small number of HD's (small capacities too) that GVP used to supply along with the card as it was originally sold as a complete upgrade package for a std A2000.

TC :D

[Zetr0]

@rkauer

my good friend, I have noted a programmable ROM chip, would this be where one could use a bable based ROM image, like that of the 4.15 ?

I have managed to score a few 27c256-200's I got 8 in total, 1 for my GVP 4008 one for some thing else ;) (thanks coze.... pics a comming :)) so this leaves me a couple spare, so if you want I can program one with the 4.15 binary for you, if it would work..

http://babel.de/amiga.html :)

[rkauer]

Thanks a lot, friend!

I think I'll take TC way and don't use that nasty "pseudo" IDE. With registered IDEfix I achieve ~900kb/s on the A2091 :D

Did you read the PM I sent? Finally I found a way to alleviate that A500+ from your place. ;)

If somehow I manage to delay the package a little I take the offer for the other things!:D

[Zetr0]

@rkauer

I will post out the small items to you on Monday my friend, (also need to post some to FOL as well) :D

I will pop into the post office on Wednesday with the A500+ to get a cost of postage, should be fun :)

[TheCorfiot]

HI Zetro,

GVP 4.15 firmware is not unfortunately compatible with the GVP3001.

It is a basic limited IDE interface as rkauer said. "Nasty" :laughing

Hope you are doing good mate.


TC :D

[Zetr0]

@TC

my friend I am doing well, busy but alas okay... btw you have PM :D

[rkauer]

@rkauer

I will post out the small items to you on Monday my friend, (also need to post some to FOL as well) :D

I will pop into the post office on Wednesday with the A500+ to get a cost of postage, should be fun :)

I think how fun will be posting it to Spain...:crying

Probably more than I pay for the unit itself.

Anyway, cheaper than posting directly to here (I hope). :blased

[chiark]

Lovely :D
Just as a slight hijack, how did you identify that the RAM was faulty? (One of my 2000 MOBOs is stuck in a reset loop... I have suspicions!)

[coze]

A3001 is most definitely an interesting piece of hardware. RKauer, you should try and see if it works with a CF/IDE adapter ? maybe a small size card ?

[rkauer]

@Coze: If the card will come with the ATA ROM, maybe. But I really want the Babel's GURU ROM to give some use to the built-in controller only if it works as a normal IDE.

So, if the Babel's ROM cures that "sonna-whaaa-beach" (as some Italian could say - @Marco: it' a joke, m8!)... :)

@Chiark: M8, this A2000 problem was in the A2091 RAM, so the install disk's utility called "RAMtest" point the faulty chip. But the little program only work with the A2091.:(

[rkauer]

BTW #55: Now the A2000 is in a PAL frenzy! Woohoo!:spin

I discovered how to permanently force she to PAL-booting (just open J102, add a 4k7 resistor at R101 position and nothing more!). Thanks my old A2000 manual!:D


BTW #56: I finally put the lithium hack inside the beast and buy the accelerator. More pr0n on the weekend (I hope).:D:D:D:D:D:D

BTW #57: I discovered I have not one, not two, but three(!) 1Mb Nibble RAM SIMM at home! That Impact A3001 accept RAM in 2Mb banks?:D

:great:great:great:great:great

[TheCorfiot]

BTW #55: Now the A2000 is in a PAL frenzy! Woohoo!:spin

I discovered how to permanently force she to PAL-booting (just open J102, add a 4k7 resistor at R101 position and nothing more!). Thanks my old A2000 manual!:D


BTW #56: I finally put the lithium hack inside the beast and buy the accelerator. More pr0n on the weekend (I hope).:D:D:D:D:D:D

BTW #57: I discovered I have not one, not two, but three(!) 1Mb Nibble RAM SIMM at home! That Impact A3001 accept RAM in 2Mb banks?:D

:great:great:great:great:great


@rkauer

Hey my friend getting closer & closer,
The GVP 3001 as far as I am aware (going by my own experiments) only accepts RAM in 4MB/8MB configurations that is of course if you have the 30Pin SIMM version RAM card.

TC :great

[rkauer]

Sigh...

Nothing is free in this life...:(

Except friendship (I'm talking to you guys!) and the sunset.:bowdown

[Fingerlickin_B]

I've lost track...and lost track of how many beers I've had tonight...not sure about work tomorrow :laughing

What do you need man? 4mb 30 pin SIMMs?

PZ.

[rkauer]

Nope: 4 x 1Mb Nibble RAM 30-pin SIMMs for the Impact (rare as hen's teeth!). Hmm... OK one more nibble SIMM.

Unfortunately, more expensive than GVP 64-pin SIMM!:shocked

[Fingerlickin_B]

Sorry to ask more dumb questions, but what is "nibble" SIMM?

PZ.

[rkauer]

A special version of RAM. Equivalent in speed to EDO, if memory serves me right. It comes in 50 and 60ns "flavours".

That type of memory was used on high performance servers:lol @ the PC286/A500/A2000 era.

[EDIT] Nibble RAM was available even at 30ns speed grade!:shocked Not surprise it cost that much!

[rkauer]

Woohoo!:D:D:D:D:D

The Impact A3001 came today!:D

I change my mind and will give the IDE controller a go (I also create a holder for a Toshiba 343Mb laptop-sized HD inside).

Also installed the ooooooooooold Z2400 Supra modem inside, just because I can. It will be taken off when I open the unit again, someday... ;)

Changed the Meta4 strap to reflect only 2Mb of memory and PRESTO! a full 8Mb 030 @28,3MHz (the CPU & FPU are 25MHz units, any hope of a little more overclock?). :D

OK, enough talk! Let's the pr0n begin! Zeeeeeeeeeetr000000000000000!

Workbench grabbed screens in the near future! :D

[Fingerlickin_B]

Nice! :great:great:great:great

How is your HDD mounted?

*EDIT* - You created a bracket it says, but more to the point, where is it anchored?

PZ.

[rkauer]

Nice! :great:great:great:great

How is your HDD mounted?

*EDIT* - You created a bracket it says, but more to the point, where is it anchored?

PZ.


Thanks m8!

The 2.5" IDE HD is anchored on the front plate by a single screw through one of the original holes and rest over one Zorro slot to avoid a short-circuit. A bit lamer, I know, but it's working. Now it's time to install ShapeShifter or a nice Classic ECS partition.:D

[Fingerlickin_B]

Good idea, I might do that too (would like a second HDD).

Here's a thought, maybe make a small metal bracket screwed to the "rear" of the HDD that holds a small peice of card (with no tracks).
Then you can insert the card into the unused Zorro slot, holding the other end of the HDD for further stability/rigidity :)

PZ.

[rkauer]

Another good idea, if you want to use a regular sized HD (3.5") is making a bracket and screw it to the rear of your HD controller (opposite side to the first one).

TCD: can you give me the configuration pins, m8? The board have the IDE deactivated!

[Zetr0]

OOooOOOOO

NICE!!!!!!!!!!!

its always good to wake up to hardware pr0n :D

*slurps coffee

Yep :) very nice indeed!!!!!

[TheCorfiot]

@rkauer

GVP A3001 configuration.

CPU CARD
J1 & J16 = ON - Reserved
J2 = OFF - Reserved

J4 = ON , J5 = OFF - Clock FPU from U2 Osc
J4 = OFF, J5 = ON - Clock FPU from U1 Osc

J10 = ON, J12 = ON, J13 = ON, J14 = OFF - A2000A Mobo Remove 68K
J10 = OFF, J12 = OFF, J13 = OFF, J14 = ON - A2000B Mobo keep 68K (use)

J6 = OFF - Enable Hardware Cache
J7 = OFF - Enable MMU

J8 / J9 = ON - Disable Boot ROMS U23 /25 (ON if no ROMS present)

J11 = ON - Disable A3001 (030,IDE & RAM), Disable switch here

J15 = ON - Enable IDE Auto Boot Eprom U34 (watch issues with KS)

J17 = ON - IDE Eprom type 27256, OFF - 27128 (32K / 16K)
J18 = ON - Normal position, OFF - AT IDEROM >V3

RAM CARD

J1 & J2 = OFF
J3 & J4 = ON

J5 = OFF, J6 = ON - 8MB select.
J5 = ON, J6 = OFF - 4 MB Select.

Out of curiosity what version firmware is indicated on your IDE Boot ROM, If you can find V3 or above this may help but as far as I am aware 1024 cylinder is still the Max even with this firmware.

I have had clashes with KS2.04 & above with GVPAT firmware version 2
another option of course is If you will use the A2091 to boot from then ignore the AT Boot ROM & simply add the gvpat.device to your expansion folder, this will remove any KS boot issues. I have had the interface working this way but still found it very limited, It also has timing issues but you may be lucky with the HD you have connected up.

Hope this helps out, the config above may not be fault free but I have put the list together from pictures I kept on my Work PC when I was initially setting up My GVP 3001 some months ago, I will check when I get home as I have a full configuration written down.

Of course do let us know how you get on.

TC :D

[rkauer]

@rkauer

Out of curiosity what version firmware is indicated on your IDE Boot ROM, If you can find V3 or above this may help but as far as I am aware 1024 cylinder is still the Max even with this firmware.

Thanks a lot, friend.:bowdown:bowdown:bowdown:bowdown:bowdown

I have the 2.5AT ROM on it. I'm thinking in some ways to solve this issue:

- Burn another EPROM (nah, too much hassle);
- Put a flash RAM (suitable size) into a DIL socket and toss it instead the ROM (nice and elegant, also allowing me to use a GURU version);
- Make it from software only.

But nothing is perfect in this life: tonight, after all done, I fired up the Amiga one more time to transfer some packages. No sign of life from the SCSI HD...

Open the beast and reset: strange "buzzing" noise from the HD. Check everything, nothing apparently wrong. Re-check cables, OK. Pick the multimeter, 5V rail have 5.63V!!!!!!!!!:shocked

The PSU developed a bad regulation and probably kill the main HD. Now I need to swap the guts from the PSU again and hope the best for the orig. HD (who I want to use into the A500's HD controller). Any clue in how to fix the current PSU? The more load I put on it, more the voltage rails increase.


I have had clashes with KS2.04 & above with GVPAT firmware version 2
another option of course is If you will use the A2091 to boot from then ignore the AT Boot ROM & simply add the gvpat.device to your expansion folder, this will remove any KS boot issues. I have had the interface working this way but still found it very limited, It also has timing issues but you may be lucky with the HD you have connected up.

So can I "install" an updated software-based version of the ROM (leaving it into the Expansion drawer) and use it after boot? If so, this is more interesting than make a ROM/EPROM/FLASH for it.


Hope this helps out, the config above may not be fault free but I have put the list together from pictures I kept on my Work PC when I was initially setting up My GVP 3001 some months ago, I will check when I get home as I have a full configuration written down.

This will help a lot, but for now I will look into another SCSI HD. The ones I have here causes a software failure when fire up the HDtoolbox (specifically when I try to read the configuration from drive).

Note that those I have here are SCSI-2 types with more than 4Gb (68 pins connectors). And the 2091 still have the 6.6 ROM version.

Sigh, the A2000 adventure never ends...

[TheCorfiot]

@rkauer

Bad news on the PSU my friend, It's possible that you may have overloaded it in the first place, If you say the more load you add the higher +5V rises, I wou;d suggest you put use an ATX PSU for the moment whlst you get the system running,

It seems you agree with my idea of using the gvpat.device in the expansion drawer, t's the best solution especially as you will boot from SCSI. you can then leave the A3001 as IDE Boot ROM disable.
I have uploaded the A3001 software disc which includes the necessary drivers into the zone for you.

Best of luck...

TC :D

[rkauer]

Thanks, TC!

So if a newer version of the GVPAT.device can be used without physically fit it onto the board that will be marvellous!

Now I need to grab another "brand new" 1080Mb SCSI HD (or wait until I can use a GURU ROM onto the 2091 and then a 9.1Gb one, or even both) :evilgrin

Good suggestion about the PSU, but I have a lot of those older AT around. I just need to take one with good +5V regulation and solder it to the A2000 wires plus a nice triplet of Molex connectors for everything else (3 HD, 2 floppies, 1 CD-RW and maybe an IDE ZIP drive).

[TheCorfiot]

@rkauer

Hope you have downloaded the .dms image in the zone with the gvpat.device file, that's all you need. You may find other utilities on the disk usefull too.

Regarding the PSU don't forget to set the "Tick" signal to internal on the Mobo when using AT /ATX PSU.

Regarding IDEZip drive on the GVP A3001, thats really pushing it man, but if it works fantastic...:great

BTW you have PM

TC :D

[rkauer]

@rkauer

Hope you have downloaded the .dms image in the zone with the gvpat.device file, that's all you need. You may find other utilities on the disk useful too.

Thanks a lot, again! I've downloaded the archive. Funny is the Installer's Heaven don't have the GVP IDE controller in there (or my search neurone is dead). The GVP IDE disk actually is the SCSI version!?!?:confused


Regarding the PSU don't forget to set the "Tick" signal to internal on the Mobo when using AT /ATX PSU.

Already did it. The internal/external strap at the moment. A proper tick generator next week (or when I open the big Miggy again - some very nice friend is sending me an updated A2091 ROM). :D


Regarding IDEZip drive on the GVP A3001, thats really pushing it man, but if it works fantastic...:great


I hope so. A zip drive is a long dead dream (Amiga-wise).


BTW you have PM


OK!:great

[rkauer]

Updating:

After the death of the original HD (52Mb, historical archives and a nice bunch of programs):crying , I swap the non-original PSU for another AT one (this time a properly measured first, concerning stability).:blased

Put it into the A2000 and take the chance to sack out the modem and GVP-IDE ROM. Set parameters as TC told me and: GREEN SCREEN!!!!!!!:shocked

I think: too bad, the over voltage kill the Agnus, too. :(

Swap it for another good one, same thing... Hmm... :-/ Checked again the straps in the GVP: hey, I will try to mess with it (A2000 boots normally without it, when I tried this).

Just move J10 to ON and the machine try to boot again. Lesson: look for GVP manuals when that people change the behaviour of configuration straps on same boards with different revisions. @TC: mine is a rev4, no J17, nor J18!

Put a 4.3Gb SCSI-2 HD with an adaptor, HDtoolbox goes GURU when reading configuration from it. Manually I create a slightly less than 2Gb one and use it. No GURU, thanks God.

Partition it in 4: Sys (60Mb), Work (200Mb), Other (600Mb), Games (999Mb):D

Installed (so far): WB 1.3, then 2.0, then 2.1 (to have those program files missed along the ages). Also lha, unzip, lzx, dopus, IDEfix (for the CD), tsGUI, DMS and FMS. Now it's time to toss Classic Workbench on this baby!:evilgrin

Software Pr0n when all done.

@Alexh: do you guys from BBoAH don't need the strap config for the Meta4 and some very nice pictures?;)

[rkauer]

Update #19786:

Installed Classic Workbench ECS (thanks, Bloodwhich!) :bowdown

But the A2000 is suffering with some SCSI lockouts, sometimes even the CD don't mount nor show up in Sysinfo or Showconfig. Tested CPU no caches & no bursts, nothing. Also the IDE HD don't show up. And WHDload hangs too. I need some advices on those problems.

Commodore Amiga_guide installed, also Viewtek instead JIV (Viewtek is a lot better). :)

Boy! That 030 CPU is hot! And the new SCSI HD too! I installed a slot fan right on the side of the HD and glued a large original PentiumMMX heatsink onto the 030 (with a thermal adhesive pad). No space for a fan over the CPU.

Screen grabs after those problems are solved.

[rkauer]

Chiark? Zetr0? TC? Anyone?:nervous

[TheCorfiot]

@rkauer

Just need a bit of clarification my friend.

I presume you are running KS 3.1 as you are using Classic Workbench.

I think you need to strip your system down to Basics & then build up to prove stability in a logical order.

1) A2000 +A2091 / SCSI HD
If you are getting SCSI lockups at this point then suggest Different HD Use the A590 / A2091 Installler to ensure RDB is correct.
Then Add CD ROM drive, CDFilesystem is not too good recomend IDEFix97 & CacheCDFS.

2) Add Zorro II RAM

3) IF system Stable. Then Add GVP 3001 without IDE ROM & IDE HD.
IF system begins to get unstable after adding GVP 3001 Remove Zorro II Ram to check for conflicts.

4) Then Add IDE HD & use gvpat.device in expansion drawer, do not use the bootrom if you will not be booting from IDE.

5) Use GVP Sysinfo utility to examine & display your RAM Allocation & Configuration, check that nothing has been "shut up" ie conflict.

Also worth checking the both Mouse button KS Boot screen & see that no expansion card is listed as defective but all working.

Finally and this may not be related but I know you have set the Mobo Jumper to NTSC, but your system clock is still running at NTSC frequency, maybe worth replacing the Oscillator to a True PAL frequency.

Hope this has been of some use..

TC :D

[rkauer]

@rkauer

Just need a bit of clarification my friend.

I presume you are running KS 3.1 as you are using Classic Workbench.

Nope. KS37175, intended for A2000 (original). A 3.1 is on the way (more 2 weeks-tm). And I'm using Classic Workbench ECS, intended for this or even more humble machines.


I think you need to strip your system down to Basics & then build up to prove stability in a logical order.

1) A2000 +A2091 / SCSI HD
If you are getting SCSI lockups at this point then suggest Different HD Use the A590 / A2091 Installler to ensure RDB is correct. Then Add CD ROM drive, CDFilesystem is not too good recommend IDEFix97 & CacheCDFS.

Used IDEfix97 just to add the CD (so I'm using CacheCDFS) and fix the SCSI.device, since for now I'm stuck in 2.0 ROM.


2) Add Zorro II RAM


I'm thinking in take it out. 6Mb of fast ough be enough. The board have 4Mb on it, but it is set to "produce" only 2Mb (even on Early Startup Control).


3) IF system Stable. Then Add GVP 3001 without IDE ROM & IDE HD.
IF system begins to get unstable after adding GVP 3001 Remove Zorro II Ram to check for conflicts.

Good point! But the accelerator will not become slow as hell then? I take the GVPAT.device from expansion drawer and the problem continues.


4) Then Add IDE HD & use gvpat.device in expansion drawer, do not use the bootrom if you will not be booting from IDE.

That's the archive you sent me? It doesn't have any "extension" after the name...


5) Use GVP Sysinfo utility to examine & display your RAM Allocation & Configuration, check that nothing has been "shut up" ie conflict.

Running 3 different benchmark programs. In all the memory passes OK.


Also worth checking the both Mouse button KS Boot screen & see that no expansion card is listed as defective but all working.

All working fine, says the E.S. screen.:)


Finally and this may not be related but I know you have set the Mobo Jumper to NTSC, but your system clock is still running at NTSC frequency, maybe worth replacing the Oscillator to a True PAL frequency.

Another excellent point! But I think the problem is SCSI-related, now. Every time I try the HDToolbox in the HD the Amiga goes GURU when try to read the drive geometry. :(


Hope this has been of some use..

TC :D

I think so.:bowdown

[rkauer]

OK, I managed to grab some pictures of the software running for you people appreciate.

They are zipped in two archives (IFF images).

So you can tell what's wrong. Coze is cooking some ROM chips for me ATM (ks & A2091 rev 7). Shame I can't use a GURU ROM in the A3001, a couple of small IDE drives might become in handy. ;)

[sbeehre]

I just got an Amiga 2000 with an A2091 SCSI card which has v6.6 ROMS... where can you get the V7 ROMS from?

[rkauer]

I can post the ROM image to the Zone, but you have to burn the pair of EPROMs yourself (or ask nicely to a friend who have a programmer).

If you are an electronic able person, is better to make the Ralph Babel's Guru ROM (http://babel.de/amiga.html) instead. Or buy the adaptor from Amigakit or Vesalia.

[EDIT] Too late, they don't sell the Babel's adaptor anymore... sigh... :(

[sbeehre]

unfortunately i dont know anyone who has an eeprom burner :( also do you know where to get a2000 3.1 kickstart roms?

[rkauer]

I think you know by now... :D

[sbeehre]

Also my a2091 has had all the memory taken from it! can you still buy those ram chips today?

[rkauer]

Also my a2091 has had all the memory taken from it! can you still buy those ram chips today?

Yes, you can.

Only in 80ns "flavour", I'm afraid. Farnell, Digikey (expensive! Be warned!) and lots of places have those little buggers to sell.:)

Mine A2091 is full populated with the (now rare) 70ns variant (minus one chip with a broken leg, replaced with a 80ns, works OK).:D

Our niponic friend is cooking the v7.0 ROM for SCSI to me.:bowdown

[sbeehre]

Yes, you can.

Only in 80ns "flavour", I'm afraid. Farnell, Digikey (expensive! Be warned!) and lots of places have those little buggers to sell.:)

Mine A2091 is full populated with the (now rare) 70ns variant (minus one chip with a broken leg, replaced with a 80ns, works OK).:D

Our niponic friend is cooking the v7.0 ROM for SCSI to me.:bowdown

i found these (http://nz.farnell.com/8698139/semiconductors-integrated-circuits/product.us0?sku=bsi-brilliance-semiconductor-inc-bs62lv256pcp70) are they ok?

[rkauer]

i found these (http://nz.farnell.com/8698139/semiconductors-integrated-circuits/product.us0?sku=bsi-brilliance-semiconductor-inc-bs62lv256pcp70) are they ok?

Nope, wrong chip. You are looking for 514c256 or 53C104 (20 pins). 70ns are preferred, 80ns and even over (up to 120ns) are OK.[EDITED]

Those 70ns are rare beasties nowadays.

[Secret Vampire]

No, they need to be 256kx4 (1Mbit), those are 32kX8.

The best sources I've found are some old PC graphics cards, and later (I think rev 6.x) A500 motherboards. Some A500 trapdoor expansions probably use the same chips too (Look for ones with 4 chips). The only problem is that salvaging chips from old hardware requires some soldering skill.
I personally wouldn't bother to buy the chips new, for the price you'll spend, you could probably find a better SCSI controller which accepts SIMM memory, like the GVP, or a Zorro RAM card with some memory on it.

one final option http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1-MB-DIP-Ram-fuer-Amiga-3000-Speichererweiterung-usw_W0QQitemZ380074257580QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item380074257580&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 60ns too, top quality stuff.

[Fingerlickin_B]

one final option http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1-MB-DIP-Ram-fuer-Amiga-3000-Speichererweiterung-usw_W0QQitemZ380074257580QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item380074257580&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 60ns too, top quality stuff.

And cheap too...not a single bid at this point! :xmas

PZ.

[Zetr0]

Hello there my friend,

I bought some of those chips a while back from www.futurlec.com and have been plesantly pleased with the fact that they were 60ns flavour :)

and at 90cents (50p a chip) one cannot argue to much... there is a $5 delivery charge but NO minimum order! whoohoo :)

on the bottom of the page here http://www.futurlec.com/ICRAM.shtml

[FrenchShark]

Thanks, TC!

So if a newer version of the GVPAT.device can be used without physically fit it onto the board that will be marvellous!

Now I need to grab another "brand new" 1080Mb SCSI HD (or wait until I can use a GURU ROM onto the 2091 and then a 9.1Gb one, or even both) :evilgrin

Good suggestion about the PSU, but I have a lot of those older AT around. I just need to take one with good +5V regulation and solder it to the A2000 wires plus a nice triplet of Molex connectors for everything else (3 HD, 2 floppies, 1 CD-RW and maybe an IDE ZIP drive).

Back in the days, when I had my A2000, I have ported my work on the AT-Apollo.device to the A3001. I was able to support ATAPI devices such as CD-ROM drives. I also remembered that my LS-120 drive did not work because of an HW incompatibility with the A3001.

I just digged into my archives and found out that I wrote a gvpat.device v4.00 in 1998! There is also a NoIDE_A3001 tool to install a resident program to kill the original gvpat.device and an AtaInfo tool that shows the capabilities of the IDE device.
EDIT : IIRC, gvpat.device v4.00 does not support a 4-port IDE but is NSD/TD64 compliant with LBA addressing (up to 128GB hard-drive).

I give no WARRANTY on these tools since I do not remember what I have done (10 years ago already !) but I used them for a while on my A2000 without any issue.

Regards,

Frederic

[rkauer]

Great!:great

Do you remember the maximum size of IDE HD? I think I'll give it a go.:bowdown

[TheCorfiot]

@Frenchshark

I thank you for your very kind generosity in sharing this gvpat update
If it was possible to put this device into an Eprom to fit directly on the board & provide autoboot too that would be fantastic

TC :bowdown

[rkauer]

I was thinking on the same thing!

Freddie, tell us that is possible. Pleeease?http://www.amigabr.org/uploads/smil47e875e94ffbc.gif:great:bowdown

[sbeehre]

Hello there my friend,

I bought some of those chips a while back from www.futurlec.com (http://www.futurlec.com) and have been plesantly pleased with the fact that they were 60ns flavour :)

and at 90cents (50p a chip) one cannot argue to much... there is a $5 delivery charge but NO minimum order! whoohoo :)

on the bottom of the page here http://www.futurlec.com/ICRAM.shtml

thanks Zetr0! is that the 1Mb video RAM right at the bottom?

[Zetr0]

@sbeehre

its one of the last two, send them an email you need the 20 pin varient not the 18 pin

[FrenchShark]

Great!:great

Do you remember the maximum size of IDE HD? I think I'll give it a go.:bowdown

It supports 28-bit LBA addressing that means :
(2^28) * 512 bytes = 137,438,953,472 bytes.

The NoIDE_A3001 command is a little bit hacky : it does not exit.
You have to run it this way : RUN NoIDE_A3001 >NIL:
I think I should improve it to make it startup-sequence compliant.

Regards,

Frederic

[FrenchShark]

I was thinking on the same thing!

Freddie, tell us that is possible. Pleeease?http://www.amigabr.org/uploads/smil47e875e94ffbc.gif:great:bowdown

I am wondering if the UVPROM is big enough to hold the new device.
Even if the UVPROM seems big, usually only one nibble per word is used in the UVPROM because of a bug in expansion.library in KickStart 1.3.
IIRC, the A3001 has a 32KB UVPROM -> 8KB of useful storage.
There are two ways of overcoming this issue :
- Having a small routine nibble-encoded, loaded by the expansion.library, that then load the rest of software, word-encoded.
- The UVPROM just contains a routine that loads the gvpat.device from the hard-drive. Does someone remember if HDInstTool supports custom code configuration on the RDB?

Regards,

Frederic

[rkauer]

Hmm...

The A2000 ROM is 2.04 (37.175), dunno if it is au pair of the task. 1Mb Agnus, ECS Denise.

If I remember correctly, HDInstTools have custom boot code support (I used it in the ADD_SCSI controller for my A500 ¹/2 ECS - 1Mb Agnus, OCS Denise).

[FrenchShark]

Hmm...

The A2000 ROM is 2.04 (37.175), dunno if it is au pair of the task. 1Mb Agnus, ECS Denise.

If I remember correctly, HDInstTools have custom boot code support (I used it in the ADD_SCSI controller for my A500 ¹/2 ECS - 1Mb Agnus, OCS Denise).

No plan to have 1.3 (softkicked or with a switcher) for backward compatibility on the A2000 ?

It is good to know for HDInstTool.

BTW, the AT-Apollo 2000 and the A3001 have the byte order reversed in comparison with A600/1200/4000 IDE port or even Buddha card. The gvpat.device v4.0 is able to detect byte-swapped HD if a RDB with "DRKS" ID is found instead of "RDSK".

Regards,

Frederic

[rkauer]

No plan to have 1.3 (softkicked or with a switcher) for backward compatibility on the A2000 ?

Not ATM. In a very near future the 37175 will kiss goodbye this setup in favour of a 40.063 unit. :)


It is good to know for HDInstTool.

BTW, the AT-Apollo 2000 and the A3001 have the byte order reversed in comparison with A600/1200/4000 IDE port or even Buddha card. The gvpat.device v4.0 is able to detect byte-swapped HD if a RDB with "DRKS" ID is found instead of "RDSK".

Regards,

Frederic

At this time I'm not able to hook anything on the GVP IDE: it refuses to recognize even a humble 340Mb IDE I have!:mad

I think in setting up a bigger drive (20Gb) using your driver. But I think it will not recognize it at all. Or I read the post wrongly? I still have a 540Mb unit around, plus the 340Mb one.

I'm also seeking for a WD33C93A-PL08 for the 2091 for upgrade it and fix the SCSI lock-up problems (two controllers are better than one, right?).

[FrenchShark]

At this time I'm not able to hook anything on the GVP IDE: it refuses to recognize even a humble 340Mb IDE I have!:mad

I think in setting up a bigger drive (20Gb) using your driver. But I think it will not recognize it at all. Or I read the post wrongly? I still have a 540Mb unit around, plus the 340Mb one.

10 years ago, I used a 340MB from Seagate on the A3001, a ST3391A IIRC. I also used a 1.2GB from Hitashi and a 5"25 2.5GB from Quantum.

Run the command "RUN NoIDE_A3001 >NIL:" then verify that there is a NoIDE.strap in the resident list using a system monitor like Scout.
If it is the case, do a Ctrl-A-A. After the reset the gvpat.device should not be present anymore in the list of devices (check with Scout).

Then, use HDInstTool with gvpat.device (put gvpat.device in DEVS: ).
Device number 0 is master, 1 is slave.

You can also use the AtaInfo.en tool to see if your drives are recognized.

Maybe, you need to set back the executes flag to the three files from the ZIP archive. I am not sure ZIP keeps all the AmigaOS flags.

Regards,

Frederic

[rkauer]

You have a big foot too? Small world... :)

They are great drives (in more than one sense). ;)

Just ough of information: killing the GVPAT.device and with non-working A2091, how can I boot this Amiga? Floppy only? I think I'll need a special boot floppy, then. Or I'm wrong again?

[FrenchShark]

You have a big foot too? Small world... :)

They are great drives (in more than one sense). ;)

Just ough of information: killing the GVPAT.device and with non-working A2091, how can I boot this Amiga? Floppy only? I think I'll need a special boot floppy, then. Or I'm wrong again?
On my configuration, the A3001 IDE was not my booting device.
I had also an AT-Apollo 2000 and a Buddha. I was able to put 10 ATA/ATAPI devices in my A2000:crazy.
Yep, you would need a special boot floppy. The best would be to have a floppy that kills the A3001 IDE, create a small RAD: that contains the mounting of the gvpat.device partitions + assigns and then, reset the A2000.
On the long run you need to have the A2091 working or a new boot ROM from me...

Regards,

Frederic

[rkauer]

Can you tell me more about that new ROM?;)

[EDIT] After a (long) night trying, I give up. The on-board IDE of the A3001 is positively (negatively?) dead.

I'll buy another SCSI chip. One guy from A.org is selling the 33C93A-PL -08 (best version, bug-fixed) for 30USD plus postage. What you guys think?

Or I can buy another A2091 for 100BRL (45.50USD) and keep mine as a HD holder.

[rkauer]

Update (after a long time): I've buy a GVP HC+8 with 4Mb on it.

The first HD (the one I had when the A2091 died) is borked, too. I'll install a new 4.2Gb SCSI and use OS 3.9 in this baby.

Probably a C= bridge to allow network and an IDE HD on the AT controller.

Oh, and a newer ATX power supply!

[Zetr0]

@rkauer

PICS!!!!!!! :D

[TheCorfiot]

Probably a C= bridge to allow network and an IDE HD on the AT controller.



@rkauer

My friend did you get the IDE working on the A3001 ;)

Is there an echo in here.......PICS :laughing

TC :D

[rkauer]

When the big guy is done I'll show!:spin

[rkauer]

Hmm...

I received (as a gift) a GVP 030 Combo with a catch: a totally destroyed SMD 030 chip.

Does a kind soul have a spare to sell? It is the 68030FE33 variant.:blased

[EDIT]Sorted out locally, and even better: for free!Yay!:D:D:D

[rkauer]

Update, again!

Managed to grab a 17Gb SCSI drive: unfortunately, appears the GVP SCSI2 dies on me too (as the 2091) :banghead :crying

Coze, can the ROM be busted? It don't load the gvpscsi.device.

Tossed a minimal 504Mb HD in the A3001, but since I have 3.1 ROM the 2k simply refuses to boot from HD. "Forcing" the GVPAT.device to load via a modified WB3.1 disk (with Freddie's drive) shows the HD, but no boot at all.

Really near future: swap the PC bridgeboard for a real Amiga NIC. Two more weeks (tm)...

[rkauer]

Manage to partition and format the 528.48Mb HD, WB3.1 installed.

Problem: I can't hook the DRKS (byte-swapped RDB) on peecee to install the other (bunch of) necessary archives and OS3.9 via WinUAE.:banghead

Now the A2000 have a lovely 3.1 vanilla installation. Lha, Lzx & Unzip, nothing more ATM.

[TheCorfiot]

Problem: I can't hook the DRKS (byte-swapped RDB) on peecee to install the other (bunch of) necessary archives and OS3.9 via WinUAE.:banghead



@rkauer

Toni's latest Beta recognises byte swapped RDB......:D

BTW, I'm well impressed you got the 3001's onboard IDE to work :great
Does it autoboot With KS3.1 and if so have you programmed a new eprom for it (nudge, nudge, hint, code please ;)).
OR maybe you are just using the gvpat.device in the expansion drawer.

TC :cool

[rkauer]

Not programmed! Simply I tossed one 528.48Mb (big, huh?) ancient HD, faaastprepped it and installed 3.1 . Simple like that. The funny thing is I used the original 2.5 ROM to boot it! :D

Oh, out of the blue my GVP SCSI-2 controller think it's time to work again :D

I think I have problem with cables or 68>50pin adaptors...:blased

[TjLaZer]

If you are still looking for Nibble Mode SIMMs contact B&C Computervisions, they sell Atari TT030 Nibble Mode SIMMs 4MB and those work great! I have the A3001 maxed out to 8MB with Nibble mode and it works great...

[rkauer]

Interesting! But the A3001 only allow 1Mb nibble SIMM. How's the cost?

[MalleII]

Hi,
i came across this thread while searching for a more recent rom for the ide controller of the gvp a3001 board.
i have dl'd the 4.0 from this thread but it refuses to work on my board.
Also the rom 4.1 from Ralph Babel refuses to work on my board.

I think i know why these two roms fail: i have a A3001 Series I rev 4 Board, both 4.x drivers are intended for the A3001 Series II rev.7 Board.
The boards differ in the boardID: mine is 2017/8, the Series II has 2017/11
The ID seems to be hardcoded into the device, so it refuses to start.

I only have the 2.3 rom, can someone please ul the 2.5 rom and binddrivers device the Zone? :)

:help

[rkauer]

My board is a 4.x series. I used the IDE binddrivers from Babel's page with no problem at all.

Notice you must to remove the board's IDE driver from memory with a "kill IDE" program before issuing the binddrivers command.

That's the ones available in this thread.

[TjLaZer]

Do you have to kill the IDE ONLY if the IDE ROMs are installed? What if you don't have IDE ROMs installed? Do you have to run the kill command?

Interesting! But the A3001 only allow 1Mb nibble SIMM. How's the cost?

Sorry for the long delay in replying but I started to mess around myself with a new Impact A3001 card I got for free locally that had 4MB if Nibble Mode RAM and 4MB of regular 30 pin SIMMs that would not boot so I had to try and find/order some proper Nibble mode RAM. B&C Computervisions has the 1MB Nibble Mode RAM for $10 each.

How many SIMMs are you looking for to max out your card?

[rkauer]

Hi TJ.

I need 4Mb to max the board up, as I already have 4Mb on it.

If the accelerator's ROM is not placed in, no need to kill the ide device, just issue the binddriver version.