Found -> Disposable Hero (Was: I need a bit of help on this.)

[Amiga_Lady]

Hello you all. I need a bit of help with a matter that I'll explain just some lines below. I know it's a weird question this one I'm going to ask, but I'd appreciate it if some one could help me with it.

You'll see. I need to work out in which game does THIS MUSIC appear:

http://darkvader.digitalrice.com/img/Peltzer.wav

It's a strange music, and a difficult question, that's why I need your help. However, I have some clues, not many, but it's all I have, I hope it's enough:

-The game is a shoot'em up, more specifically, one of those where you're made to kill extraterrestrial ships or even the extraterrestrial beings themselves, who knows.

-The game had either 1, 2, or 3 discs. Certainly not more. (Not less than one either ;) )

-And the final hint, which is really more like an "anti-hint" or a "counter-hint" sort of thing. A problem, to be more clear. Well, the thing is that the game might even not be an AMIGA game, but that possibility is highly unlikely, and anyway, it is for sure that the game is for a 16 BITS MACHINE.

Well, if anyone picks up my request and listens to the music, thanks. If not, thanks for reading.

PS. The music seems particular enough for reminding the game to those who have played it. However, either I haven't or my memory is not at its best (not that it is too much anyway ;))

Well, see you all, and advanced thanks to you all really.

See you.

PPS. If you work out the game PLEASE tell me the name of the game and also ****THE NUMBER OF DISCS IT HAS****

Thanks again.

[Belgarath]

doesn't sound familiar to me...

but if it is a shoot'em up then akira (a regular on here) will know even if its not an amiga game

so im sure your get the answer soon ;)

[Amiga_Lady]

Thanks anyway, Belgarath, you did your best, I'm sure, so thanks.

By the way, that "akira" you mention, is a regular user of this particular forum, or of any other forum amongst all these ones.

You know, I mean that there are many sections in these boards, and I'd like to know if he is in this section or in some other.

And yes, the game is a shoot'em up 100% surely, about killing extraterrestrial beings or spaceships, and it might not be an AMIGA game, but chances are that it actually is. Say about 95% or so.

Well, thanks again.

[Belgarath]

all the forums on here are part of the same board "eab"
and all the regulars browse every part of it :)

so he will definitly read your post and he's quite the expert on shoot'em ups so theres a good chance he will know if no-one else recognises it

[RCK]

I have moved your thread into the appropriate sub-forum (Looking for a game name ?)
By the way, your link to the music file (wave) seems to be broken right now :nervous

[Amiga_Lady]

There was a little problem with the server, but it lasted for a very short while, so the link works now as perfectly as always, and the music file is thus downloadable again.

Well, thanks, and excuse me for posting this message originally in a wrong forum.

By the way, let me focuse the question from a different viewpoint:

WERE THERE MANY (OR ANY) SHOOT'EM UPs WITH MORE THAN 1 CD?

Please if you don't know the music, having that question answered would be very good for me.

Thanks again.

[Amiga_Lady]

Well, when I said CD in the question above, I of course meant DISC :p

[Muzkat]

The link is OK now.:)

That's some cool music...but unfortunately, I can't pick it either.:confused Sorry Amiga Lady.

[RetroMan]

Hmmm :confused You sure it was a Shoot´Em Up ??? Sounds a bit like Mortal Combat for me ;)

[Amiga_Lady]

Yes, I'm sure it's a shoot'em up, completely sure, and the shoot'em up is related to extraterrestrial beings.

The whole thing, that is to say, the question and the set of pieces of information is so bizarre because it's of a question of a weird contest in a Spanish website.

The question is as follows (in spanish): "How many discs has a particular shoot'em up (for a 16 BITs machine) in which this music sounds?"

So sorting things "backwards", you can extract the hints I wrote above. :cool The fact of the extraterrestrial beings is also commented by the author of the question, and I guess the 16 bits machine is AMIGA because the author of the question loves AMIGA games, but it might not be an AMIGA game after all.

Well, thanks for your help, and since the contest ends in 6 hours time, I'll post here the solution soon for satisfying your curiosity, if any.

So that's all.

Thanks and see you.

[Paul]

I know...I know the answer it's Disposable hero.
The wav file attached is the in-game music on level 1.:D

EDIT
The game is on 2 disks.

[Belgarath]

yup it is disposable hero!

its the level 1 music to be exact and its 3 disks not 2 :)

so if its for a contest, what do we win? ;)

[Amiga_Lady]

Oh, thank you very much, who would have said that someone would in the end find the music out.

And sorry if I explained the thing wrong: it's for a contest, but I DO NOT make the contest. I'm just a person taking part in that contest. However, it is completely valid to request other people's help, so that's what I did.

Anyway, don't be sad for not winning a thing, because I won't win anything either. There is a question each day of the month in that website, and the winner is the person who answers more questions correctly, and I'm not that person.

However, you win my eternal gratitude, I doubt if it is any worth, but I offer it sincerely.

Thank you very much :cool :cool :cool :cool :cool

By the way, you said the game has 2 discs, did you?

Thanks again.

[Belgarath]

i would never have got it so full marks to paul for getting it right!

but its definitly 3 disks

Disposable Hero (1993)(Gremlin)[cr Classic][t +17 Anthrox](Disk 1 of 3)
Disposable Hero (1993)(Gremlin)[cr Classic][t +17 Anthrox](Disk 2 of 3)
Disposable Hero (1993)(Gremlin)[cr Classic][t +17 Anthrox](Disk 3 of 3)

[Amiga_Lady]

Oh, my god.

***** PLEASE *****

Please someone help me to work out how many discs this game definitely has. Imagine how absurd would it be to find out the game only via the music, but after that being unable to work out the number of discs.

The questions asks about the number of discs, so that's what I need, but now you've found out it's Disposable Hero, I guess it won't be hard to find out the number of discs, so i'll check the internet now, but please help me, because the deadline for answering is tonight at 0:00 in Spain, and that means just in 5 hours time.

Please if you find out the number of discs, tell me.

Thanks.

[Amiga_Lady]

:confused :confused :confused :confused



Ohhhhhhh my god!!!

Please Belgarath, or some other person wishing to help me, check this URL and later tell me what you think about this confusing matter regarding the NUMBER OF DISCS

http://www.amigagames.com/gage/d/disposablehero+.html#floppy

It seems the author of the question has a funny, evil mind.

:shocked :shocked :shocked :shocked :shocked :shocked

[Belgarath]

any version of disposable hero for the amiga that you can download off the net is always 3 disks.
although it did exist on the cd32 so you could say it was 1 cd :)

[Amiga_Lady]

Thanks, Belgarath, but I still have a doubt.

If you (please do it if you haven't) check the URL I said in my last reply, you'll find this text (directly extracted from the web via copy-paste):

Disposable Hero - Floppy

Copyright: 1993 Gremlin Graphics and Euphoria

Number of Disks: 2 or 3 (NDOS)

Minimum Requirements: 1Mb


And the exact words of the contest question are (after the translation:

"How many this does a certain shoot'em up (for a 16 bit machine) have?"

So, I need to find out how many discs the game had for the AMIGA, which was 16 bits.

On the other hand, that NDOS version, or whatever it is, puzzles me because I know it's an operating system, being "NDOS" an abbreviation for "Not a DOS", but that's all I know.

Hence, some questions arise in my head :confused : What on Earth is exactly that NDOS operating system? Was it an operating system for some model of AMIGA? If so, did then that model of AMIGA have 16 bits too, as the usual AMIGA?

Summerizing, the question itself wants to puzzle people. Not only is the game difficult to find out by using the music, but also once you've worked out it is Disposable Hero, one is still unable to deduce the number of discs.

So, please Belgarath, help me, I'm confused ------> :confused

By the way, that CD32 is not a 16 bit machine, is it? :cheese

Thanks for all your help, past and future:cool

[Amiga_Lady]

When I said "How many this..." of course I meant "How many discs..." it was a crazy and dumb mistake:D :D :D

[Paul]

My version is WHDLOAD installed and all I saw was 2 files named Disk.1 and Disk.2

I have just looked at the size of the 2 files and they look like extended images at 960k each.

[RCK]

I will get some HOL info for this one...
3 Disks
Horizontal shoot-'em-up
WHD=C-Fou=v1.2
1993
Disposable Hero
Gremlin
Euphoria
(F-AP31-P42-77%500)
nov-93
Too-difficult horizontally-scrolling shoot-'em-up of the sort we've played countless times before. But the blueprint-based power-up system is a nice touch.moreover, the classic TOSEC version (Anthrox) confirm us that it's one original 3 disks release.
the WHD version seems to have get down to two 960k files.

I were you, I'll answer:
- Classic Disk release: 3 floppy (880k)
- WHD install release: 2 files (960k)

[Amiga_Lady]

Wow, that's what I call lots of cool and interesting information.

:cool :cool :cool :cool


But please tell me what on earth could the writer of that website I mentioned mean when he said something like:


2 disks or 3 (NDOS)

Sorry for asking again, but, so much HOL, WHL, and NDOS is confusing me :confused :confused

I guess it's 3 disks as you say, but I need to make all the sources not contradict, because I need to click in the supossedly correct answer, without the possibility of giving explanations.

Anyway, excuse me you all for being so embarrasing, but anyway all the fuzz will end in 1 hour 50 minutes, when the contest ends.

See you, and thanks.

[RCK]

the HOL is a kind of ultimate Amiga commercial game database that we are preparing since months, it should be open to public in a few months right here (abime.net)

In my opinion there is only two version of this game arround the web:
- the 3 disk / floppy version cracked by Anthrox.
- the special HD version created with the WHD installer.

no more to say :cool
if you want, we can upload the mirrors (ADF) of the 3 floppy here.

Click on "3" for your contest :D

[Amiga_Lady]

Well, since the HOL is a commercial database, certainly the right answer is "3". No more to say, like you said :cheese


So, thanks for all your efforts I appreciate, and see you soon.

By the way, your last comment definitely solves all my doubts, if any remaining, what I really doubt: "So click 3 in your contest":D


Yeah, that's what I'll do, Trunks is one of my favourite Dragon Ball characters, and certainly a reliable one :cheese

However, that HOL seems even more reliable too :D

Well, I hope you can put it online soon. That's all for the moment.

See you all.

[Twistin'Ghost]

And since nobody touched this one, NDOS just means that the floppy disks used for the game were not readable by AmigaDOS. When you insert these disks into the disk drive, Workbench displays them with DF1:NDOS or something similar. So NDOS is just a reference to any disk for the Amiga that can't be read by the operating system. That's all. :D