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Misguided_Fool
20 March 2002, 21:46
Just another example of computer music being used in pop music.
Has anyone heard of the Janet Jackson / Sonic the hedgehog thing ? (I know this isnt Amiga related...)
If you play Sonic the hedgehog on the Master System - either level 2 or a bonus level (cant remember now) - it has a familiar tune.
It is the Janet Jackson song - the one that goes 'Everywhere I go , Every smile I see etc..'
Blatent rip off used about 10 years after the music was written.
I wonder if she was sued for this.....
The worst case of stealing computer music I know of !!!
Check it out..
(Just realised I posted this as a new thread - should have been a reply to an old thread - sorry guys !)
Akira
22 March 2002, 07:23
Are you sure? I know that music, and it doesnt remind me of JAnet's tune....
CHiEF
22 March 2002, 10:48
yeah i know exactly the part he means, i used to sit and listen to the sonic megadrive soundtrack for hours :D
Tim Janssen
22 March 2002, 11:08
This thread reminds me to the music used in the X-files TV-series. I think the main X-files-theme by Mark Snow borrows heavily from Psygnosis' Agony.
The loading-music for level 2 in Agony (the one featuring the picture with the waterfalls and demons flying in the sky) has many similarities with it. -Maybe I am just nickpicking... :cheese
Akira
22 March 2002, 17:45
Originally posted by CHiEF
yeah i know exactly the part he means, i used to sit and listen to the sonic megadrive soundtrack for hours :D
Megadrive? He said Master System... would you guys agree on the system, so I can take a listen? :)
CHiEF
22 March 2002, 23:16
haha well i've got the megadrive version and it definitely has that nice tune in it somewhere, on one of the earlier levels as i recall. i'll check it out next week, i'm going to me parents house where the megadrive is kept! :)
Akira
24 March 2002, 18:17
The fact is, the SMS and MD versions have COMPLETELY different music, so one of you is going crazy :)
Anyone lisend to Caesars Palace and one of their older songs, From the Bug House sound exacly like the music form Simon the Sorcerer...
Originally posted by Akira
Are you sure? I know that music, and it doesnt remind me of JAnet's tune....
Yes is does remind me of JAnet's tune
http://www.geocities.com/snappa_fcw/Ryan_Bury_Sonic_1_Bridge_Zone.mid
Jadriel
27 May 2002, 12:32
There was an Ariston commercial (on ... and on ... and on ... and Ariston) that used some music from Robocop on the C64 (I think the highscore music). Somebody please God back me up on this, since none of my C64 owning mates believed me at the time :)
[edit] Scratch that, it's the title music, and they did, and they took it verbatim the cheeky sods :)
Then it's the SMS version, Paul! The Bridge zone is from SMS Sonic.
I'll take a listen :D
Galahad/FLT
27 May 2002, 20:08
They had permission to use it, and it was a recording of the c64 version
Jadriel
28 May 2002, 10:43
I KNEW IT :)
Thanks for ending a seven year argument :D (give or take)
Shatterhand
29 May 2002, 10:35
This music from Robocop is brilliant, btw... :)
Jadriel
29 May 2002, 15:47
Aye, that it is :)
studafunkymonke
12 July 2002, 20:01
a few c64 music toons was borrowed. like the bombjack music was a jean michelle jarre toon. as (i think) were a few martin galway toons.
Konrad
12 July 2002, 20:53
Hah, I have another one. The title music of Agony.
Does someone know DIMMU BORGIR ? It's a (nordish?) black metal band. Anyway, there is a song from them called "Sorgenskammer" and it's almost identical (listen at 2:20min).
I don't think that it's "borrowed" though. I think both (DIMMU and AGONY) covered an old folk-song, or something...
Darkseid
13 July 2002, 01:08
The Bombjack tune was a Jarre tune and ripped off by bombjack, However the BIGGEST peice of music ripoff was Zombie Nation which ripped of David Whittakers LAZY JONES THEME. But david sued them for not acknowleging his work and won.
Good on him.
That's NOt actually how it went. The guys at Zombie Nation approached David whittaker, offered something like 4000DM, and he accepted. There were no lawsuits or ripoffing going on. He confimed this himself at the BIT Live Show #1 (you can find a video of his declaration somewhere)
TDK
19 September 2002, 15:20
Akira is right, except I seem to remember Dave telling me it was $4000
KombatSanta
20 September 2002, 16:57
Originally posted by DCLXVI
Anyone lisend to Caesars Palace and one of their older songs, From the Bug House sound exacly like the music form Simon the Sorcerer...
No it doesn't... well maybe a little... the Farfisa organ thing perhaps. But that is not Exactly!
TDK
20 September 2002, 18:43
Of course, don't forget Rob Hubbard use of a lot of Larry Fast's music. Master of Magic, Zoids, Delta are the ones I remember atm.
Calen
29 March 2003, 04:16
Jadriel wrote:
There was an Ariston commercial (on ... and on ... and on ... and Ariston) that used some music from Robocop on the C64
Yeah i remember this and was suprised they used music from a computer game, they sure did pick a fine tune though.
Calen
29 March 2003, 04:28
Konrad wrote:
Hah, I have another one. The title music of Agony
Does someone know DIMMU BORGIR ? It's a (nordish?) black metal band. Anyway, there is a song from them called "Sorgenskammer" and it's almost identical (listen at 2:20min).
Had to hunt this one out as it had me curious, being a fan of the songs in Agony and this main title tune, i must say this is very much Agony title and not a freaky coincidence, your theory on where it came from is better than any suggestion i could put forth, very interesting.
I still much prefer the Amiga version and would love to hear it redone studio or full blown orchestra style by the original Amiga author or anyone else up to the challenge.
Wally
10 April 2003, 15:08
Does anyone know of a fairly recent tune that samples the voice from that c64 classic Impossible Mission, "Another visitor, stay awhile, stay forever". And "destroy him my robots". I'm sure it samples music from another c64 game but can't remember the title.
Does anyone know of a fairly recent tune that samples the voice from that c64 classic Impossible Mission, "Another visitor, stay awhile, stay forever". And "destroy him my robots". I'm sure it samples music from another c64 game but can't remember the title.
Knucklebusters. They played it on a national radio station in Australia for awhile. You can download it for free here:
http://superfluid.com.au/audio/knucklebusters.mp3
Titler
20 April 2003, 02:27
... or does the Sports level music from Lemmings II sound a lot like a Kylie Minogue song? Not being a fan of the short-arsed songstress, I couldn't tell you what the title of said song is though!
FromWithin
20 June 2003, 20:32
Originally posted by Jadriel
There was an Ariston commercial (on ... and on ... and on ... and Ariston) that used some music from Robocop on the C64 (I think the highscore music). Somebody please God back me up on this, since none of my C64 owning mates believed me at the time :)
[edit] Scratch that, it's the title music, and they did, and they took it verbatim the cheeky sods :)
As far as I remember, that music was from the NES version, not the C64.
FromWithin
20 June 2003, 20:36
The Dimmu Borgir track is a direct rip-off of Tim Wright's agony music.
The Amiga music had mistakes in it because the piano samples were swapped over by the programmer after Tim had written the tune and two samples were set to the wrong octave. These mistakes were copied verbatim. Tim tried to persue, but was advised that it wasn't worth the bother.
Have a look at his website. www.coldstorage.org.uk
Konrad
20 June 2003, 21:19
If there's information on this "Dimmu-Topic" I couldn't find it. Could you please point me there ? Or do you know another source ? Anyway, real nice page, a bit busy/overloaded imo though.
FromWithin
20 June 2003, 21:34
He put it in the forum.
http://www.coldstorage.org.uk/forum3/viewtopic.php?t=76
He did talk to some lawyers and stuff, and got in touch with the band's management, but the whole process was so slow and would have ended up costing money for very little gain.
Konrad
21 June 2003, 01:44
Really nice reading, thanks alot. That clear some thing up.
ant512
21 June 2003, 14:23
Here's another one. I'm sure this is a complete coincidence, but try listening to the title music from cheesy 70's American series "Police Woman" back-to-back with the music from "One Man and his Droid" (C64 version).
Mark Wright
22 June 2003, 03:29
Originally posted by ant512
Here's another one. I'm sure this is a complete coincidence
LOL!!!! That's MORE than coincidence. Just been on WinMX to find it and I have to say that given Mr Hubbard's penchant for pillaging, it's more than likely he may have been "influenced" by this particular theme.
Bow your pilfering head in shame, Rob :shocked
One for the STIL compiler methinks..
[if anyone wants the theme I can zone it if you like]
Originally posted by Mark Wright
[...]and I have to say that given Mr Hubbard's penchant for pillaging, it's more than likely he may have been "influenced" by this particular theme.[...]
Yes!
Another Hubbard demistificator.:D:D:D
Hubbard IS OVERRATED, fer foks sake :D. Why people have him in such high praise? His tunes ar eOK, but I heard much, much better in his same time period (Chris Huelsbeck/Jeroen Tel anyone?)
FromWithin
22 June 2003, 20:34
I don't think that Rob Hubbard is overrated at all. What did it for me was Flash Gordon. Watch the film and then listen to the game music. He did an amazing job in using very similar themes to the film but creating some really excellent new music. It's very cleverly done. There are some amazingly well put together pieces as well.
I was surprised when I first found out about the Zoids/Master Of Magic = Synergy thing, but then I bought the Synergy album and realised that the Zoids and Master Of Magic tracks are actually much darker and better.
A lot of the musician's back then just took other existing tunes because nobody really cared.
Bit of info for you: I did the music for MegaApocalypse2 (never released), so got to know Simon Nicol quite well. Simon told me that he asked Rob to do a rock track for Crazy Comets, but Rob came back with what is now the Crazy Comets tune and obviously blew Simon away.
And he's a really nice guy. Very dry. :)
stainy
22 June 2003, 23:14
I`ll give you Cybernoid and Cybernoid 2, that was about all that was good :cheese
Mark Wright
23 June 2003, 00:22
Originally posted by stainy
I`ll give you Cybernoid and Cybernoid 2, that was about all that was good :cheese
This could run and run :p ... if you listen to Lionel Richie's 80s dirge "Running with The Night" there are Cybernoid 2 overtones in there, and since it was released a little time before the Cyb2 music would've been written, it's fair to say it may have proved an inspiration for the Maniacal Mr Tel.
Rob is still God as far as I'm concerned, not least because he inspired a generation of computer musicians and set an elusive precedent, but also because I find his *compositions* far more listenable than any other C64 composer's. Whether they were his compositions or not :lol
It's all very well listening in hindsight, but try to transport yourself back to the first time you sat in front of a C64 and watched Sanxion loading from tape (presuming that would've been in 1986 and not 1995). You'd never heard a C64 make a sound like that before.
Mark Wright
23 June 2003, 03:35
Originally posted by Akira
(Chris Huelsbeck/Jeroen Tel anyone?)
I know I'm drifting off topic (the point being real songs that borrow from computer music) but Chris Hulsbeck's well-known "Ski Dance" (the Amiga version of which, covered by SLL, comes from the demo featured in my avatar) is actually an old freestyle record from the mid 80s by a band called Panarama......
And SLL covered the Hulsbeck version.
BUT ANYWAY.
Any more secret origins of tracks?
Was Tip & Mantronix's Enigma epic really some old Italian high energy track by an obscure band from 1986?
For example.
Kada
08 August 2003, 21:10
the song "superstar" by rollergirl contains a sample from starcraft, i think.... i haven't read this anywhere but i've heard it and reacted to it myself many times. it's in the chorus in the song... if you listen very careful you can hear that "terminal-computer-accept"-sound that are used in the menus in the game... :))
khephren
08 August 2003, 23:11
Was Tip & Mantronix's Enigma epic really some old Italian high energy track by an obscure band from 1986?
Firefox (oh and TIP) did Musiklinjen (Enigma tune) and from what I gathered it was original since Firefox insisted that he did 99% of the tune.
Locash
27 October 2003, 06:53
Scooter have used samples from Turrican in their track called Level1. Well i say samples, massive sections of it to be honest.
tin
27 October 2003, 10:31
Originally posted by FromWithin
As far as I remember, that music was from the NES version, not the C64.
As far as I remember (heheh) It was from the Gameboy version.
I think I remember this cos I was *convinced* it was the c64 and then ariston said it was the gameboy. Then again they could all be lying cos it sounded really like the C64.
Also have anyone heard the tunes by Bastian http://www.bastianmusic.com/ I think he's pretty big in the netherlands (well they played it on the radio a lot). Lots of c64 stuff and one of the tracks (can't rember which one) had the cool wop-wop noise off (I think) the Rubicon soundtrack.
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