EAB/Lemon Super League 2008: Round 7 - Alien Breed 2

[Graham Humphrey]

EAB/Lemon Super League 2008: Round 7 - Alien Breed 2 (http://hol.abime.net/3233)

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Rules:
- The round starts now (Sunday, June 29) and will end at 11:59pm UK time on Saturday, July 19.
- Score as many points as possible.
- Post screenshots of your score in this thread, and write your score underneath. You can enter as many times as you like within the round's time frame.
- No cheating of any kind (including score leeching) - this includes save states. If you suspect a contestant of cheating then don't post it in public (anyone who does so will have their posts edited or deleted) - please PM either me or Biscuit and we will investigate it. If we find anyone guilty of cheating then they will be banned for the entire season.
- Please only post your score on either the EAB or Lemon forums. If you have already played this year you have to post your score on the same forum for the whole season. If you are new, the one you post on first will be your "team" for the whole season. However you are welcome to discuss the compo, game etc. on the other forum if you wish.
- Use the ECS version only and play on Easy mode.

For the full rules and FAQ, click here (http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=33736).

To see how the Lemon guys are doing, click here (http://www.lemonamiga.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5315).

To check the current league table and previous rounds' results click here (http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=34801).

Download Links:
Disk 1 (http://www.planetemu.net/index.php?section=roms&dat=257&action=showrom&id=324650), Disk 2 (http://www.planetemu.net/index.php?section=roms&dat=257&action=showrom&id=324656), Disk 3 (http://www.planetemu.net/index.php?section=roms&dat=257&action=showrom&id=324657), WHDLoad-installed (http://www.whdownload.com/games/Pack-A-2007-01-30/AlienBreed2_v1.3_0278.zip).

Have fun and remember if you have any questions then feel free to ask. Anyone can join at any time.

Final Scores: (EAB members in blue, Lemon members in red)

1. john4p - 684,155
2. Biscuit - 522,315
3. mailman - 370,380
4. TheCyberDruid - 310,425
5. neuroflip - 269,930
6. CHook/OTT - 238,685
7. Graham Humphrey - 174,480
8. adolescent - 163,420
9. bbr - 126,010
10. Simon Humphrey - 113,990
11. kilgoresmudge - 100,230

[mailman]

I think it should be also mentioned on which difficulty level we should play. I would go for Easy. Would it be important which hero I choose (I don't think so but the question should be asked ;)?

[TheCyberDruid]

I would also say let's play on easy. This way we get higher and more different scores ;)
I'll wait with my first try until Graham have chosen this :)

[Graham Humphrey]

Er, whoops. I knew I forgot something...!

Okay, we'll go for Easy (since it's so sodding hard anyway, might as well give myself a fighting chance ;)). And no, it doesn't matter what character you choose. Take your pick.

[mailman]

On the first picture there is my previous high score table. On the second you can see my new score:

291,400

[TheCyberDruid]

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5655/alienbreediithehorrorcosy1.png

188.530

Nice score mailman! Must try harder I guess ;)

[mailman]

Nice score mailman! Must try harder I guess ;)


Thanks but I could do better (as you can see from scores). I used to finish this game. I am not in a good shape for it right now :)

[TheCyberDruid]

Thanks but I could do better (as you can see from scores). I used to finish this game. I am not in a good shape for it right now :)

Yeah, I know sunday morning ;) I also finished it, but that was about three years ago. But it's really fun to play AB again :)

[Graham Humphrey]

This game really is difficult. With a capital D. And a capital IFFICULT. And it has possibly the worst first level I've ever seen. But never mind...

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94,200

[Graham Humphrey]

It's gone a bit quiet over here...

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139,260

[TheCyberDruid]

Nice score Graham!
I only play for score on the weekend, cause I'm too lazy after work. Maybe I make an exception tomorrow just for you ;)

[Graham Humphrey]

Just for me? Aw, how sweet ;)

[TheCyberDruid]

Phew, now I know why I only play on the weekend ;) Took me a long time, but I got what I wanted :D

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210.530

[Graham Humphrey]

Well done sir, you kept your word :D

[TheCyberDruid]

Well done sir, you kept your word :D

Thank you and I'm happy I really made it :D I took the second part because it's a bit easier than the first. Expect my next try on AB 1 on saturday ;)

[CHook/OTT]

Forgot how difficult this game is, 1st go died outside on 1st level :D, 2nd go destroyed all rotatey things near exit first then did tother side of map with no time to get to exit when it went red :mad (108k, no pic but gonna play this again)

[adolescent]

This one is tough. I always preferred TA though...

163,420

[blade002]

I will not be able to compete in AB2 due to the fact i cannot get the ECS version onto my 1200, so i will only be able to compete in the first installment of the game :( .. But even thats HARD to do right now, due to the fact my Uncle is on my Computer ( Windows PC ) pretty much 24/7 and he loves to get drunk while he is on it watching old songs on YouTube, so he ends up interrupting me "all the time" !!! ... My Amiga is in the same room as the PC and the house is too small to escape from him.

[TheCyberDruid]

Alien Breed seems to be cursed ;) First mailman didn't get his score and now you have no chance to play it :( Hopefully you find a evening where you can play blade. How long will your uncle stay at your house?

[mailman]

I will not be able to compete in AB2 due to the fact i cannot get the ECS version onto my 1200

How come is that?

[Graham Humphrey]

Anyone else...? This is probably the quietest round so far. I like the way everyone votes for this game but no-one bothers to play it :p

[TheCyberDruid]

Alright Graham another mid-week session this evening just for you :D
I wonder where Akira is... and all the others. Must be the summer you know ;)

[Graham Humphrey]

Again? You're spoiling me ;)

It'd be nice to see some other people entering though - then again, perhaps it is because it's summer ;)

[john4p]

I like the way everyone votes for this game but no-one bothers to play it :pThat's because most voters have then fallen for the Team17-hype and finally realize now how overrated those games were...

(*holds flaming shield* ;))

[TheCyberDruid]

That's because most voters have then fallen for the Team17-hype and finally realize now how overrated those games were...

(*holds flaming shield* ;))

I think they didn't even bother to look at the games before voting ;) They know the name and Team 17 so they voted for it. Really strange nobody is playing these fine games :p

[john4p]

Couldn't have said it better. Fine games indeed. ;)

[TheCyberDruid]

Ah damn, better but not enough to get john ;)

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243.180

[Graham Humphrey]

Wahey - I got to level three :rolleyes

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174,480

[CHook/OTT]

226,080 :)

Fluffed it on level 4? (the one with the ram) are you supposed to go down that shaft once you use the key? Shouldn't have skipped the objectives screen (again) as i went to decklift 2 and bugger all happened (then level blew up) :(

[TheCyberDruid]

Yupp, you must go down the ramp. There is a moving wall that had cost me one life in my last try :(. Maybe someone knows if you must wait a bit for a certain position of the wall, so you can get down the ramp without losing a life ;)

[Biscuit]

If you mean the big door at the end of the shaft. It will only open a second before the crusher will hit. Stay on the right side (as it opens right to left), and walk as soon as possible onto the exit.

First time I came to that I was going crazy shooting every bullet at it.

[TheCyberDruid]

Ah thanks for the info Biscuit!
I thought I had to loose a life everytime there ;)
Excellent score by the way Biscuit :great

[john4p]

As PD-game this would've been a great effort. But as commercial product it's just a cheek!

Got stuck in here and was unable to move after initiating the destruction sequence (8 lives left, having played for over an hour...):

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I shit on Team 17.

[TheCyberDruid]

Had the same problem (stuck in wall) in one run too. It was in level two so it wasn't that bad. It's a eal pity that it happened to you with 8 lives left after an hour of play :(

[mailman]

370,380

[TheCyberDruid]

Nice score mailman :great
Have you completed the game in that run?

[Graham Humphrey]

Indeed, a great score. The standards for this round are being set pretty high.

[john4p]

Had the same problem (stuck in wall) in one run too. It was in level two so it wasn't that bad. It's a eal pity that it happened to you with 8 lives left after an hour of play :(
Thanks for the condolences. ;)

Thank god I'm finally done with Alien Breed II. I'll now try to beat its predecessor, too.

[TheCyberDruid]

Ah dammit john, that can't be true! Even if you hate the games you still manage to make these damn good scores ;)
Congrats mate for this great score :great
Okay I will have another run in an hour and hope I can at least achieve half of your score :D

[john4p]

Thanks. Well, I don't really hate them anymore. I just find they are overrated (which holds true for every Team 17-game).

Even though I got annoyed by some bugs I still enjoy(ed) them a bit...

[TheCyberDruid]

Even though I got annoyed by some bugs I still enjoy(ed) them a bit...

I wont tell anyone that you like(d) them a bit ;)
You are right about that they are a bit overrated. Like I said they are really fun to play with two players, but the level design and gameplay are not that great as some say. It is just a funny (and buggy ;)) top-view shooter nothing more :)

[Graham Humphrey]

I agree. Decent games, certainly, and I do enjoy them but I won't be going back to them that often. Definitely no classics.

[TheCyberDruid]

Have you tried the two player mode with your brother Graham? It really doubles the fun playing the game :agree Last weekend I told a friend of mine who visited me we were doing this competition and then we have played a round with two players. Then I knew again why I liked that game so much back in the days (tm) :)

[Graham Humphrey]

No I haven't actually. Might try it later on.

[TheCyberDruid]

Phew, even if AB2 is not as hard as the first part, it's surely demanding :agree Fighting back these alien hordes becomes quite stressy after a while ;)

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310.425

@Graham
I hope you will like the two player mode :)

[mailman]

Thanks for the condolences. ;)

Thank god I'm finally done with Alien Breed II. I'll now try to beat its predecessor, too.

Could you tell us something about your technique of playing? Simultanously you hate this game and you rule in it. Where's the catch?

[mailman]

Nice score mailman :great
Have you completed the game in that run?

No, I haven't and I doubt I will (unless I play on WinUAE but I don't want to). I didn't even get to military tower. The game is tough when you can't use rebounders (I wrote about it before - WHDLoad slave has a bug which on my systems quits the game if there are too many rebounder projectiles on the screen). I play using triple lazer only.

[TheCyberDruid]

No, I haven't and I doubt I will (unless I play on WinUAE but I don't want to). I didn't even get to military tower. The game is tough when you can't use rebounders (I wrote about it before - WHDLoad slave has a bug which on my systems quits the game if there are too many rebounder projectiles on the screen). I play using triple lazer only.

Last round the instable Turrican slave and now the same thing with Alien Breed 2 :( I bought the rebounders as soon as possible because, like you said, they are the best weapon in the game. If you can't use them it's much harder. There should be a thread like 'WHDLoad slaves with bugs' so Graham could check if there are any known issues with the games we play :agree

[john4p]

Could you tell us something about your technique of playing? Simultanously you hate this game and you rule in it. Where's the catch?
Well, I can highly recommend the bouncer (rebound) - it's the only weapon you'll ever need. Of course you'll later need a flamethrower to close the gas hole - but therefore the weakest version is sufficient.
I also didn't buy the map for 45.000 credits and that way could heal me 15 more times (15 x 3.000).

But I've just read you can't use the bouncer weapon. That's certainly a disadvantage.

[mailman]

Well, I can highly recommend the bouncer (rebound) - it's the only weapon you'll ever need. Of course you'll later need a flamethrower to close the gas hole - but therefore the weakest version is sufficient.
I also didn't buy the map for 45.000 credits and that way could heal me 15 more times (15 x 3.000).

But I've just read you can't use the bouncer weapon. That's certainly a disadvantage.

And what about that hate? The more you hate the game, the better you play it? :spin

[john4p]

The game got voted - so I gave my best.

I can be good at a game I dislike and vice versa. For example Counterstrike: I like that game, but suck at it.

Being good or bad at a game and liking it doesn't correlate.

[mailman]

Thanks for the condolences. ;)

Thank god I'm finally done with Alien Breed II. I'll now try to beat its predecessor, too.

Don't be so sure of your 1st place. I will give a try using rebounders (use with cautious). In the past I finished this game without much effort :)

[john4p]

I'm never sure about anything in this competition. Not with you and TF around...

[mailman]

I'm never sure about anything in this competition. Not with you and TF around...

Well, you can be sure... Once again I investigated the readme file to AB2 slave and noticed that ECS version has a problem with rebounders fixed (AGA version which I play most often has not for sure). I couldn't recall whever I checked it or not and gave it a try in hope I could beat you. I bought rebounders and after a while of shooting the game quitted. Like I wrote in some threads or in bug reports (I can't recall) it seems to me like this "flaw" hasn't been fixed or later fixes which has been implemented in the slave made it transparent or not working.

Back to TCD idea about buggy slaves thread. Once I started such thread but pretty soon it ended in closing it (here (http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=23823)). Among others I mentioned Goal, Robocop 3, Lotus 3. It was a thread about slaves which were abandoned (mostly Mr. Larmer's work) and it would be nice if someone could improve or fix them (writing bug reports in this case is not much help). After a discussion pretty soon it became a flamewar and some people were throwing stones at me... Pretty sad but true...

[TheCyberDruid]

Back to TCD idea about buggy slaves thread. Once I started such thread but pretty soon it ended in closing it (I can't find it right now and I presume it was deleted). Among others I mentioned Goal, Robocop 3. It was a thread about slaves which were abandoned (Mr. Larmer's work) and it would nice if someone could improve them (writing bug reports in this case is not much help). After a discussion pretty soon it became a flamewar and some people were throwing stones at me... Pretty sad but true...

That's pretty bad. I'm not so much into WHDLoad since I only own a A500 without a HD, but I know it's pretty much the one way to play the old games on newer Amiga hardware. So if any slaves have problems with a certain hardware config that should be mentioned somewhere, but when the old thread turned into a flamewar I guess that is not possible :( It's just a pity that the competition is not completly even between emulation and real hardware because of buggy slaves.
Anyway I wish you really the best of luck mailman :great

[Graham Humphrey]

Some of the responses in mailman's thread were pathetic, quite frankly...

It's a shame the slave is bugged, it doesn't help competitions like this (anyone remember the Project-X round last year? That was pretty bad).

[CHook/OTT]

Another attempt and not much better really :(

238,685

[Graham Humphrey]

Last day now...

Come on people, if some of you have played these games but haven't submitted a score you may as well as you'll almost certainly score some points in the league, given the lack of entries ;)

[Graham Humphrey]

And this one's done too...