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Akira
28 June 2008, 02:34
I have this guy insisting that his Escom Amiga has 3.1 WITH CrossDOS in it, and that his modified drive reads HD disks *lol*

Since I never had an Amiga 1200 from Escom, I can't know. Did CrossDOS appear again there or is he just talking nonsense?
Retro-Nerd
28 June 2008, 02:46
CrossDOS is part of the WB since v2.1, so in v3.1 too. All ESCOM Amigas have slighty modified PC floppy drives built-in, which has problems with some Amiga games. But there's a patch in Animet to fix this.

For reading HD disks i quote Thomas here. Never tried this trick.

If you use HD disks, then you have to close the second hole with some duct tape or something similar.

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=288055#post288055
Akira
28 June 2008, 03:13
Nope, I read that for licensing reasons 3.1 DIDN'T have CrossDOS and the WB3.1 disks I have don't have it.

The only versions that have CrossDOS, as far as I rmember, are 2.1 and 3.0 (By the way, 2.1 came after 3.0. That I htink was the last WB that brought CrossDOS in it)

Regarding teh floppy, that's for using HD disks but formatted as DD, NOT formatted at HD.
Retro-Nerd
28 June 2008, 03:24
Really? Just checked the WB 3.1. There is a CrossDosFilesystem, PC0/PC1: driver and a CrossDos commodity.
Akira
28 June 2008, 05:11
I'd like to know the truth behind this now!
I always heard that it was not in 3.1
eLowar
28 June 2008, 05:17
Yeah, I remember using it back in the day as well. And without any hackery.

That was OS 3.1 in an A500.

...

Shut up. I liked it.
alexh
28 June 2008, 10:06
I have CrossDOS on my WB3.1(1?) disks. It's not enabled by default, you have to drag some files across to mount PC0:
laser
28 June 2008, 12:46
crossdos is there on workbench 3.1 ...there's a file on L dir named crossdosfilesystem...but it's the basic version
the basic version enables only to mount and use PC floppy disks

if you want more features you need the full version of CrossDOS...it enables to mount on workbench real PC hardisks FAT32 & FAT..also it enables to mount hardisk files..created with PCtask or PCX emulator ...and other features

lastest version of CrossDOS is V8..was comercial (1 floppy disk) and the price was 60 u$
Graham Humphrey
28 June 2008, 12:48
There's a version 8 of CrossDOS? I thought it only went up to version 7...
alexh
28 June 2008, 13:16
There is NO version 8 of CrossDOS. For whatever reason laser is making it up!?

The very last one was CrossDOS 7 Gold v7.04

This is a commercial product, and one of the few bits of software I ever bought. (Shortly after Consultron closed there was a big sale and I got it very cheap).

If you need the features of CrossDOS 7 Gold (long filenames etc) and you want to be legal ;-) then I *think* the free MessyDOS v1.58 is comparable.

http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/MSH-1.58
Akira
28 June 2008, 17:21
What the hell was this myth I believed up to today about CrossDOS not being in WB3.1? gah!

I tend to use XFS for all these things, it mounts a MYRIAD of different files, I really recommend it:
http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/xfs
thomas
28 June 2008, 20:23
What the hell was this myth I believed up to today about CrossDOS not being in WB3.1? gah!

Speech (narrator.device, translator.library and Say) was removed in WB 2.0 because of licensing issues.
Redwood
11 December 2008, 08:15
Sorry to resurrect a topic probably better left dead, but I purchased a set of Workbench 3.1 floppies that do *not* have the CrossDOSFileSystem file in the L folder. However the file is there on the Workbench 3.1 ADFs supplied with Amiga Forever 2008.

Seems some versions have it, and others don't?
andreas
11 December 2008, 08:34
Who can 100% accurately assert that the copy you bought is 100% original?
I never would, at least not from popular auctioning sites like Ebay. If they deleted some (usually non-vital) files, they could as well (re)activate the write protect tab and claim this disk never been written to, having the cheek to sell it as "original".
Redwood
11 December 2008, 09:25
@andreas

Yes, its possible the purchased copy isn't 100% original, tho I purchased it from AmigaKit.co.uk which IMHO makes it more likely they are original. Incidentally, the absence of the CrossDOSFileSystem file in the L folder of the Workbench disk does *not* mean CrossDOS isn't there. The other CrossDOS files are still there on the Extras disk.
amigakit.com
11 December 2008, 18:03
If you purchased it from us, it is an original.

Crossdosfilesystem was not supplied on the Workbench disk's L drawer as there was no space for it
dlfrsilver
11 December 2008, 18:40
Crossdos gold v7.04 is excellent :D that's what i use ;)
andreas
11 December 2008, 19:24
If you purchased it from us, it is an original.
Sorry, but as he didn't tell WHERE he purchased it from in the first place, I assumed Ebay (since this is a very reliable guess these days :D)
adolescent
12 December 2008, 06:39
@andreas

Yes, its possible the purchased copy isn't 100% original, tho I purchased it from AmigaKit.co.uk which IMHO makes it more likely they are original. Incidentally, the absence of the CrossDOSFileSystem file in the L folder of the Workbench disk does *not* mean CrossDOS isn't there. The other CrossDOS files are still there on the Extras disk.

Is CrossDOSFileSystem on the Extras disk (Extras3.1:L/CrossDOSFileSystem)? Maybe you have an A4000T Workbench set that might have had a trimmed Workbench disk to accomodote the Workbench.library)?