Legend of Faerghail, version 2.0e

[MazinKaesar]

The WHDLoad installer found in the WHLoad main website does not work for the version 2.0e of the game.

This version, an English version, is the only English one without a boring bug that prevent you to go to the Elven Pyramid at the North of the main map. Before the entrance, a group of Elven guard ask you a question and you can find the right answer in the manual. In any other English version of the game, even if you give the right answer, the guards don't let you enter and continue to ask you the question.

These are the adf images I tested and found working:

Legend of Faerghail v2.0e (1990)(Rainbow Arts)[a](Disk 1 of 3)
Legend of Faerghail v2.0e (1990)(Rainbow Arts)[a](Disk 2 of 3)
Legend of Faerghail v2.0e (1990)(Rainbow Arts)[a](Disk 3 of 3)(Boot)

(I did not test any other adf of this version, but I think they will work good as these ones)

[Retro-Nerd]

Legend of Faeghail English, v2.0e is already supported. As it seems not this TOSEC images but the original SPS images. KillerGorilla already preinstalled it.

http://www.whdownload.com/games.php?name=l&sort=0&dir=0

[MazinKaesar]

Legend of Faeghail English, v2.0e is already supported. As it seems not this TOSEC images but the original SPS images. KillerGorilla already preinstalled it.

http://www.whdownload.com/games.php?name=l&sort=0&dir=0

The version on this website is the 1.1, not 2.0e! And this version have also messed graphics.

So, I will try some more adf files... stay tuned :crazy

EDIT: I don't know what are the differences between SPS and ADF images, where can I find some infos? (Thank you!)
EDIT2: no matter, I found some infos...

[Retro-Nerd]

I guess you mixed up some things. This is the WHDLoad slave version 1.1, not game version 1.1. Messed graphics in WinUAE? Try other settings like "Immediate" or "Cylce exact" blitter or disable the JIT.

[MazinKaesar]

I guess you mixed up some things. This is the WHDLoad slave version 1.1, not game version 1.1. Messed graphics in WinUAE? Try other settings like "Immediate" or "Cylce exact" blitter or disable the JIT.

For "messed graphics" I means than when you meet a type of monster, you see the pic of another monster, and anyway that version on that website still have the bug of the Elven riddle!

Tonight, when I'll back to home, I will try to install with WHDLoad the right SPS images. At least, the game can be installed even without WHDLoad, but you have to reset to exit, and there is no intro.

EDIT:
I'm sorry to bother you with this game, but... I got it original and only now, after about 10 year, I found it's bugged!
This remember me the Italian version of the PC game Martian Gothic: Unification (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martian_Gothic:_Unification): a bug prevent to end the game. I had an original copy, but to end the game I had to play an English c****d version >__<

[Belgarath]

Well I've just loaded kg's whd install of legend of faerghail 2.0e and mazin is absolutely correct, the install is messed up, and shows the wrong graphics for the monsters.

Not tested the german version yet.

[killergorilla]

Well once you've sorted it let me know :)

It's not my type of game so I don't fancy testing it myself :)

[Belgarath]

german version is also bugged, atm it's showing me a picture of a snake for ratten.

obviously something is wrong with the slave or it doesn't support the sps versions and JOTD really needs to look at it.

[Retro-Nerd]

I will check it on a real machine now.

[Retro-Nerd]

Yep, the SPS installed versions shows the wrong monster pictures. We should ask jotd then.

[MazinKaesar]

Can you test the Elven riddle also? I will tell you what you have to do this evening.

[Retro-Nerd]

Sure, if you have a saved game which works with the WHDLoad version.

[MazinKaesar]

Ok, I will create it this evening.

EDIT: i will create even the coredump of WHDLoad when it tries to load the 2.0e version I tried to install (the installation process seems to work, but the game then did not start and I'm asked if I want to creare a coredumped).

[Retro-Nerd]

Use the preistalled version from KG. The mixed up monster graphics there are unimportant for your Elven riddle, right?

[MazinKaesar]

Use the preistalled version from KG. The mixed up monster graphics there are unimportant for your Elven riddle, right?

Yes, but as I told you before the KG version has either troubles: mixed up pics and unsolvable riddle. Anyway, let's talk about it again later, when I'll back to home. Anyway, the save I will send you will be made with the KG preistalled version, that's right!

[Retro-Nerd]

Yes, but as I told you before the KG version has either troubles: mixed up pics and unsolvable riddle. Anyway, let's talk about it again later, when I'll back to home.

But it is definitive the original v2.8e version. It's a WHDLoad issue then. The install needs an update to

A: fix the bugs

or

B: fully support the SPS images.

[MazinKaesar]

I see... but I want to try even to play the game from the SPS images. My english version is original but I clearly remember it is bugged too (Elven riddle). If the SPS version is based on mine... And now I can't verify what version I have on floppies 'cause I've not a real Amiga at hand.

Anyway, I think the install needs an update too.

[Retro-Nerd]

Check your pm's.

[MazinKaesar]

Finally I found a bit of time to test the SPS images on WinUAE. Well, the graphics is not mixed up, but the riddle bug is present :crying:guru Maybe they're based on the images of a version like mine.
IHMO, i suggest to tell jotd to support the TOSEC images I found working for English version. Have we to advice even the SPS guys, so they can preserve a working copy of the game?


EDIT: I tested also the following German version (SPS Image): Legend of Faerghail v1.8 (1990)(reLINE)(De)[0524]
it works fully: no bad graphics, no riddle bug. You're so lucky, German Boyz! ;)

[Retro-Nerd]

EDIT: I tested also the following German version (SPS Image): Legend of Faerghail v1.8 (1990)(reLINE)(De)[0524]
it works fully: no bad graphics, no riddle bug. You're so lucky, German Boyz! ;)

Thanks for the info. Sadly it's not unsual that English versions of German were bugged as hell. :sad

But Belgarath is right: The WHDLoad install with Legend of Faerghail v1.8 (1990)(reLINE)(De)[0524] shows the same mixed up graphics like the English Disk image/preinstalled version.

So i assume something is wrong with jotd's installing script/slave or this version isn't supported.

[MazinKaesar]

Ok, so I'll report to jotd this truble, and I'll ask him even to support the TOSEC version 2.0e working without the riddle bug. Do you think we have to report to SPS that their 2.0e version is not good and they must replace it with the working TOSEC one?

[Retro-Nerd]

Ok, so I'll report to jotd this truble, and I'll ask him even to support the TOSEC version 2.0e working without the riddle bug.

Thanks for doing it. :great

Do you think we have to report to SPS that their 2.0e version is not good and they must replace it with the working TOSEC one? Let's hope they can pick up an error-free English version, to dump correct IPF images.

[MazinKaesar]

Let's hope they can pick up an error-free English version, to dump correct IPF images.

Well, I will send them a mail... then, "cavoli loro!" as Italian people say :D

[IFW]

As far as we are concerned the disk is bug free and duplicated and how it was sold.
If the game has a bug it is none of our concern.
It is HOW it was SOLD by the PUBLISHER.
Our concern is to preserve games in their original form.
So if said publisher sells a game riddled with bugs, but we have the disks preserved as they were sold the game is good from a preservation standpoint. You get the exact same experience with the paying customers of the game at the time :)
Many games have bugs - including the ones sold just now -, you just simply are not aware of most of them.

Also, it is extremely unlikely that we'd replace a digitally preserved original game with an adf dump from tosec. :)

If however you do have an *original* of the game that you believe is working, please do not hesitate to contact us.

[IFW]

This may be your lucky day: I found an authentic different English version dumped.

[MazinKaesar]

As far as we are concerned the disk is bug free and duplicated and how it was sold.
If the game has a bug it is none of our concern.
It is HOW it was SOLD by the PUBLISHER
[...]


Ok, I understand and accept you philosophy, even if it's different from mine. :)

[IFW]

Well, it's preservation as is.
Think about it this way: even if you say don't think a particular picture is very nice, and you think it could be enhanced with a few additional strokes... most people would prefer the original version.

Now the various versions of games are slightly different: they are more similar to records or books.
Some people (collectors) would only go for a 1st edition or for one that has some special attribute, while others would go for a version that sounds the best, or is hard cover and so on.

We try to cover all versions if it is known that they exist, but the primary version covered is almost always the original, 1st print.

It was actually helpful you noticed that though, as it turned out that there is another verison of the game - still marked as 2.0E probably to cover up some fixed code :)

Luckily the compilation time is included with all and tells a different story:
v1.8 7.6.90 (#524)
v2.0e 24.7.90 (#1589)

US/v2.0e 17.10.90 #secret
v2.0e 17.10.90 #secret

:)

[MazinKaesar]

YES!!! It's the same I found as TOSEC! This is the right version, the LOF file (the main executable) is dated 17-oct-90!!!! So, do you plan to release it as "correct" ("alternate"? it's USA only?) SPS image?

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3932/image2cn5.th.jpg (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image2cn5.jpg)

[IFW]

There is an EU and there is an US version. They probably only differ in disk layout for real.
Both will be available.

[MazinKaesar]

Ok, so I'will ask to JOTD to support them when they will be available. Thank you :D

[dlfrsilver]

Fate gate of dawn is the sequel of legend of faerghail :)

[MazinKaesar]

Fate gate of dawn is the sequel of legend of faerghail :)


Really? :shocked I know Fate, but I never heard about it's the sequel of LOF... where do you find this info?

[Retro-Nerd]

Really? :shocked I know Fate, but I never heard about it's the sequel of LOF... where do you find this info?

It's not really the sequel to LoF. Yan can call it maybe the "inofficial" sequel, because it's from the same publisher reLine. ;)

[dlfrsilver]

check english fate manual :) i upped it a while ago ;)

[Retro-Nerd]

What should i check? Both games have nothing to do with each other, Denis. The development of FGoD starts probably earlier (1986) than the LoF project.

[MazinKaesar]

I found an English manual upped on this fan site: http://dungeony.rpghry.cz/fate/ but there is no mention about Legend of Faerghail.

[jotd]

the "wrong monster bug" is a slave error I think. That's when I tried to fix an access fault.

[MazinKaesar]

the "wrong monster bug" is a slave error I think. That's when I tried to fix an access fault.

Ok, thank you :)

[MazinKaesar]

@SPS Guys
any news about a release of the working English version? :)

[IFW]

Yes, it is included with the next releases.

[MazinKaesar]

Ok, thank you ^^

[Rixa]

The WHDLoad installer found in the WHLoad main website does not work for the version 2.0e of the game.

This version, an English version, is the only English one without a boring bug that prevent you to go to the Elven Pyramid at the North of the main map.


If you're feeling desperate and adventurous enough, grab your favorite hex editor and make the following edits to the existing slave:

00001300 03 8c 67 14 0c 80 00 04 20 80 67 14 48 78 00 09
00001380 00 03 00 01 8d aa 00 14 00 00 00 03 00 01 96 58

After this it should start with the version discussed here and hopefully patch it from the right place, but will no longer work with one of the two versions originally supported. I could easily add this to the source and recompile, but as I didn't do any of the hard work involved in crafting the slave and can't even say for sure if it will work, I don't feel that its my place to do so.

I haven't really gotten around to playing this game. Whatever you do after hacking the slave like this, don't blame the original author if you run into any bugs.

[MazinKaesar]

Ok, thank you. I will try it ^__^