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Graham Humphrey
10 February 2008, 01:50
EAB/Lemon Super League 2008: Round 2 - Pinball Fantasies (http://hol.abime.net/1055)

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5626/pinballfantasies01rn5.png http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9769/pinballfantasies04pr0.png http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2927/pinballfantasies08zw7.png

Rules:
- The round starts now (Sunday, February 10) and will end at 11:59pm UK time on Saturday, March 1.
- Score as many points as possible.
- Post screenshots of your score in this thread, and write your score underneath. You can enter as many times as you like within the round's time frame.
- No cheating of any kind (including score leeching). If you suspect a contestant of cheating then don't post it in public (anyone who does so will have their posts edited or deleted) - please PM either me or Biscuit and we will investigate it. If we find anyone guilty of cheating then they will be banned for the entire season.
- Please only post your score on either the EAB or Lemon forums. If you have already played this year you have to post your score on the same forum for the whole season. If you are new, the one you post on first will be your "team" for the whole season. However you are welcome to discuss the compo, game etc. on the other forum if you wish.
- We will be playing three tables (Partyland, Billion Dollar Gameshow and Speed Devils) in one-player mode only. Your score from each table will be added up to give a total.

For the full rules and FAQ, click here (http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=33736).

To see how the Lemon guys are doing click here (http://www.lemonamiga.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4854).

To check the current league table and previous rounds' results click here (http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=34801).

Download Links:
Disk 1 (http://www.planetemu.net/index.php?section=roms&dat=257&action=showrom&id=337621), Disk 2 (http://www.planetemu.net/index.php?section=roms&dat=257&action=showrom&id=337623), Disk 3 (http://www.planetemu.net/index.php?section=roms&dat=257&action=showrom&id=337624). Or grab the pre-installed WHDLoad version here (http://www.whdownload.com/games/Pack-P-2007-01-30/PinballFantasies_v2.5_0025.zip).

Have fun and remember if you have any questions then feel free to ask. Anyone can join at any time.

Final Scores: (EAB members in blue, Lemon members in red)

1. mailman - 1,483,020,130 (PL: 132,174,640, SD: 182,046,850, BD: 1,168,798,640)
2. Biscuit - 323,206,510 (PL: 179,892,920, SD: 45,297,300, BD: 98,016,290)
3. TodaysForgotten - 310,471,840 (PL: 61,101,150, SD: 202,714,600, BD: 46,656,090)
4. john4p - 258,575,450 (PL: 106,611,850, SD: 92,327,780, BD: 59,635,820)
5. Cerrydd - 198,887,680 (PL: 87,657,020, SD: 72,054,440, BD: 39,176,220)
6. Graham Humphrey - 173,976,350 (PL: 60,701,840, SD: 35,885,040, BD: 77,389,470)
7. turrican3 - 143,944,450 (PL: 115,618,250, SD: 0, BD: 28,326,200)
8. cane - 131,536,200 (PL: 62,098,540, SD: 14,304,100, BD: 55,133,560)
9. paranoid - 111,163,770 (PL: 26,156,870, SD: 51,080,570, BD: 33,926,330)
10. Simon Humphrey - 104,997,510 (PL: 32,548,060, SD: 29,436,990, BD: 43,012,460)
11. CHook/OTT - 79,910,280 (PL: 41,977,120, SD: 16,610,990, BD: 21,322,170)
12. Magno Boots - 35,597,270 (PL: 23,320,290, SD: 10,150,500, BD: 2,126,480)

john4p
10 February 2008, 11:57
I've read in the manual that "each player builds up the jackpot". So it would be an advantage to play in "8 players - mode". That should be considered "score leeching", shouldn't it?

Btw.: Press <HELP> to be able to select "Billion $ Game Show" in WHDLoad version.

Graham Humphrey
10 February 2008, 12:00
Of course it would, I assume everyone will be playing in one-player mode though. I'll add that to the original post just in case ;)

ppill
10 February 2008, 12:47
I haven't played this one ($ Game Show) for a while but shouldn't you get points for collecting prizes? There seems to be no increase in the score when collecting the TV, TRIP and CAR. Is it just the JackPot on the right ramp after collecting the three?

I'm playing the WHDLoad version on a real A1200.

Maybe it would be a good idea to add a link to the manual in the first post or place it in The Zone.

mailman
10 February 2008, 16:01
I haven't played this one ($ Game Show) for a while but shouldn't you get points for collecting prizes? There seems to be no increase in the score when collecting the TV, TRIP and CAR. Is it just the JackPot on the right ramp after collecting the three?

Probably you are just lighting them so they blink. The game gives you little number of points then. When you light up all three of the first group (TV, TRIP, CAR) you can collect them and then you will get some massive scores. The same is with the second group (HOUSE, BOAT, PLANE). This table is strange because you can get here a real huge score (over a bilion which I think is the very first pinball table you could collect such a score quite easily). Though the rest of the "prizes" are not so generously awarded.

seuden
10 February 2008, 16:10
Maybe it would be a good idea to add a link to the manual in the first post or place it in The Zone.

Added to The Zone, I think, lol.

mailman
10 February 2008, 17:09
Partyland - 99,017,700

mailman
10 February 2008, 17:11
Speed Devils - 166,043,190

Graham Humphrey
10 February 2008, 17:14
My first entry, it's not very good and I'd expect it to be beaten easily enough.

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3290/pinballfantasiesscore1axr8.jpg

Partyland - 19,542,810
Speed Devils - 21,354,610

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/563/pinballfantasiesscore1bep4.jpg

Billion Dollar Gameshow - 21,727,520

Total - 62,624,940

ppill
10 February 2008, 17:36
Probably you are just lighting them so they blink. The game gives you little number of points then. When you light up all three of the first group (TV, TRIP, CAR) you can collect them and then you will get some massive scores. The same is with the second group (HOUSE, BOAT, PLANE). This table is strange because you can get here a real huge score (over a bilion which I think is the very first pinball table you could collect such a score quite easily). Though the rest of the "prizes" are not so generously awarded.

I DO collect the prizes. You have to light the the first batch then collect all three in the right trap at the bottom (and that's what I've been doing but no extra points) and if you're lucky a jackpot in the right ramp. Hmmm...

Will check on my A600 using floppies.

mailman
10 February 2008, 18:18
Money Mania - 34,392,670

TodaysForgotten
11 February 2008, 01:06
I've read in the manual that "each player builds up the jackpot". So it would be an advantage to play in "8 players - mode". That should be considered "score leeching", shouldn't it?

Btw.: Press <HELP> to be able to select "Billion $ Game Show" in WHDLoad version.

how do you access help?

blade002
11 February 2008, 09:43
I don't know if i want to compete in this one, i really am NOT a fan of Pinball Games :( .. but you never know !?

Graham Humphrey
11 February 2008, 10:22
Now see, if you took part in the voting the result could easily have been different ;)

Monsterland
11 February 2008, 10:59
I really hate Speed Devils while the other two are decent ways of wasing time :(

john4p
11 February 2008, 11:14
how do you access help?If you're using WinUAE like me - just assign <HELP> to a button on your keyboard, mouse or joypad.

Btw., I play this game sometimes with my dualshock-controller and sometimes only with my mouse (mostly when my left arm is occupied by my wife):
left button - left trigger
right button - right trigger
middle button - left click (move mouse down + left click to push ball into play)
mouse wheel up - space
mouse wheel down - F1


@Monsterland: I like Speed Devils and hate the "Billion Dollar" - table. But all tables (except Party Land) pale in comparison to Steel Wheel, Nightmare and Beat Box (Ignition isn't bad, either).

blade002
11 February 2008, 11:38
Now see, if you took part in the voting the result could easily have been different ;)

Now thats a very good point! :banghead:D

TodaysForgotten
11 February 2008, 16:47
I don't know if i want to compete in this one, i really am NOT a fan of Pinball Games :( .. but you never know !?

I felt the same way, but im going to put up a score. While i like pinball games i usually suck when it comes to the luck factor part.


thanks john.

TodaysForgotten
11 February 2008, 17:17
I felt the same way, but im going to put up a score. While i like pinball games i usually suck when it comes to the luck factor part.

[quote=john4p;394881]If you're using WinUAE like me - just assign <HELP> to a button on your keyboard, mouse or joypad.

John. Ive tried assigning f3 and f4 help and <help> but nothing seems to happen after pressing them. Please tell me im missing something...

john4p
11 February 2008, 18:13
John. Ive tried assigning f3 and f4 help and <help> but nothing seems to happen after pressing them. Please tell me im missing something...
Dunno - works fine for me.

But you could also just press <Page Down> on your keyboard as that's always assigned by default for <HELP> (as I just found out).

You have to push that button at the table selection screen - Party Land and Speed Devils will then be replaced by Billion Dollar and Stones 'N Bones.

TodaysForgotten
11 February 2008, 18:17
Dunno - works fine for me.

But you could also just press <Page Down> on your keyboard as that's always assigned by default for <HELP> (as I just found out).

You have to push that button at the table selection screen - Party Land and Speed Devils will then be replaced by Billion Dollar and Stones 'N Bones.

John - If you were in 4th grade and i was your teacher you would recieve a gold star. That worked like a charm. It also happened to be the only button i didnt push during my push every button to get a result conquest.

thanks.

john4p
11 February 2008, 18:43
lol thx

turrican3
11 February 2008, 23:19
pl : 66,431,700

turrican3
12 February 2008, 01:20
simon is it your brother graham ?

Graham Humphrey
12 February 2008, 01:21
He is my younger brother, yes ;)

Graham Humphrey
12 February 2008, 19:01
Just to let you all know that the ADFs I linked to in the first post apparently don't work properly (teach me not to test them out) so I've now linked to ones that should work correctly - thanks to Biscuit for finding them.

ppill
12 February 2008, 19:23
@Graham
You mean the Skidrow crack? I had it crash on me when trying to save the score on the Speed Devils table. The one by Spreadpoint seems to be working fine. I'm playing on my A600 with a 1.3 kickstart for compatibility.

Graham Humphrey
12 February 2008, 20:03
I don't think it was the Skidrow one; it doesn't list the cracker on PlanetEmu for the one I chose. That one hangs when it's loading I think. But the Skidrow one has its problems too, of course, as you discovered.

turrican3
13 February 2008, 02:30
pl: 115,618,250
bd : 28,326,200

Graham Humphrey
13 February 2008, 14:50
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/4310/pinballfantasiesscore2bkz8.jpg

Billion Dollar Gameshow - 36,030,730

paranoid
13 February 2008, 20:14
paranoid - 70,249,150 (PL: 20,004,900, SD: 16,317,920, BD: 33,926,330)

Hope to have better scores, but thought I'd post these anyway while I bounce between them in hopes of a jackpot on one.

TodaysForgotten
13 February 2008, 21:02
ill be taking a big hit on this game.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Silverevoviii/tables.png
party 61,101,150
speed 22,432,640
BD 11,781,410
total 95,315,200

CHook/OTT
13 February 2008, 21:28
I really hate Speed Devils while the other two are decent ways of wasing time :(

Same here, Avoided that table even when i had the Amiga

Graham Humphrey
13 February 2008, 21:46
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8515/pinballfantasiesscore2afc3.jpg

Partyland - 39,746,990
Speed Devils - 35,885,040

CHook/OTT
13 February 2008, 21:52
ECS/AGA does it matter?

Graham Humphrey
13 February 2008, 21:54
Just making sure everyone uses the same version to keep it 100% fair.

CHook/OTT
13 February 2008, 22:00
Did you just do a sneaky edit to the 1st post meaning the AGA version i currently have running in the background while i type this is a complete waste of time :banghead

Note to mailman - Start again dude :(

Graham Humphrey
13 February 2008, 22:06
No, it's been there since the start.

Note to everyone... read posts properly ;)

mailman
13 February 2008, 22:19
AGA and ECS versions are exactly the same (don't count graphics, of course). Besides, I don't have ECS version. I just have original AGA version and play this one.

P.S. I haven't noticed that rule about ECS version. Nevertheless it is rather strange to force to use it especially when there are a lot of badly done cracks of ECS version which may be a reason for all those not understandable for me restrictions about playing only three tables out of four.

Graham Humphrey
13 February 2008, 22:39
Well... we decided to go for one version in this competition where there are both ECS and AGA versions, as there are games that have differences and we just haven't got time to be playing all these games to see if they're the same or not. This is what Lemon used to do and it's something that's been carried over into this compo. And again it's only fair and (in theory) will cause less trouble if everyone's on a level playing field.

As to your points about the bad cracks, apparently the game's bugs are in the original version too; if they weren't then the other table wouldn't have been removed from this round. I did however link to a bad crack that didn't seem to work full stop originally (my fault for not testing it) but that's fixed now and the version there should work fine.

It would help greatly if everyone used the versions that are linked to in the first post to make sure it's a fair competition.

If this was just my compo I would discount your score (rules are rules, after all) but I will discuss this with Biscuit (as we have been talking about the ECS/AGA issue quite recently and it's a bit of a tricky issue) and see what the best thing to do is.

EDIT: Final decision to come tomorrow (probably)... (I think we could have opened a real can of worms with the AGA/ECS thing.)

mailman
14 February 2008, 08:43
Well... we decided to go for one version in this competition where there are both ECS and AGA versions, as there are games that have differences and we just haven't got time to be playing all these games to see if they're the same or not. This is what Lemon used to do and it's something that's been carried over into this compo. And again it's only fair and (in theory) will cause less trouble if everyone's on a level playing field.


I agree with rules and I will obey them. As I wrote before, I haven't noticed it since Chook mentioned it. Sorry. I will play again.

As to your points about the bad cracks, apparently the game's bugs are in the original version too; if they weren't then the other table wouldn't have been removed from this round. I did however link to a bad crack that didn't seem to work full stop originally (my fault for not testing it) but that's fixed now and the version there should work fine.

And what about people who don't want to play on default scores (empty table) and have already set some records they try to beat? They are in worse situtation because it is harder for them to break the highest score and get extra ball. I played this way.

It would help greatly if everyone used the versions that are linked to in the first post to make sure it's a fair competition.

And what if it is not working on someone's hardware configuration? It is sort of discrimination :)

If this was just my compo I would discount your score (rules are rules, after all) but I will discuss this with Biscuit (as we have been talking about the ECS/AGA issue quite recently and it's a bit of a tricky issue) and see what the best thing to do is.

As I wrote before, you may discount my score. I will play again ECS version (if it works on my Amiga - I remember having some problems with it). Nevertheless I think it should be decided before compo if it is possible to play AGA/ECS versions especially when they are not different. If they were, there would be no discussion at all.

Sorry for all the inconvenience and trouble I caused. It was not meant.

Graham Humphrey
14 February 2008, 10:06
And what about people who don't want to play on default scores (empty table) and have already set some records they try to beat? They are in worse situtation because it is harder for them to break the highest score and get extra ball. I played this way.

I see what you mean on this one but I just make a copy of my highscore file and play from the default scores for the competition, which of course makes things a tad easier.

And what if it is not working on someone's hardware configuration? It is sort of discrimination :)

Well I didn't say you absolutely had to use that specific crack ;) But I think it is unlikely for that to happen given that if you have an expanded A1200 (or whatever) you'll almost certainly have a hard drive anyway so you could use the WHDLoad version. If there was a case of someone not being able to get it working at all then it would seem unfair to leave them out but there would surely be some way round it.

As I wrote before, you may discount my score. I will play again ECS version (if it works on my Amiga - I remember having some problems with it). Nevertheless I think it should be decided before compo if it is possible to play AGA/ECS versions especially when they are not different. If they were, there would be no discussion at all.

Sorry for all the inconvenience and trouble I caused. It was not meant.

No worries. The ECS version should work on your machine (it works on my A1200 - the WHDLoad version definitely works okay and I'm sure it worked when I had a basic A1200 from floppy though I couldn't be 100% sure). And your other point is true - I must admit this is something that hasn't really been sorted out as well as it should have. It's something that could well crop up in the next round so we will have to come up with a solution.

Also I should add that if you read the rules properly to start with this would have been sorted out a lot quicker ;)

mailman
14 February 2008, 10:26
Well I didn't say you absolutely had to use that specific crack ;)

I wasn't thinking about crack but just a hardware problems, even with WHDLoad (BPPC doesn't like some slaves and it is needed to write them in a specific way - Psygore can tell you more about it ;))


Nevertheless, be afraid you all because I will smash your scores quite easily ;) Especially when I beat the high score I have an extra ball. So far, my scores in the table were so big that I did not have that nice thing ;)

Graham Humphrey
14 February 2008, 10:28
Nevertheless, be afraid you all because I will smash your scores quite easily ;)

To be honest, I guess I'm just delaying the inevitable. Nice to see someone else on top of the standings for a change though :D

mailman
14 February 2008, 18:43
No worries. The ECS version should work on your machine (it works on my A1200 - the WHDLoad version definitely works okay and I'm sure it worked when I had a basic A1200 from floppy though I couldn't be 100% sure). And your other point is true - I must admit this is something that hasn't really been sorted out as well as it should have. It's something that could well crop up in the next round so we will have to come up with a solution.


Well, I remembered well. ECS version is totally unplayable on my configuration (BPPC 040). From floppies it is not working at all. I used WHDLoad version from Killergorilla's site. The music in menu was too fast but I gave it a try. When I launched the ball the screen slowed down and speeded up randomly so it was hard to aim at anything. When hitting targets or ramps no scores were added. I tried with NOCACHE tooltype. The music was OK, the game seemed to be OK also (scores were running) but when I shot the ball in any lock it wasn't left free...

So, I am out of this round (which seems to be a bit ridiculous, because AGA and ECS versions are equal in the matter of gameplay) or AGA version will be allowed.

The jury needs to decide. Although everything is according to the rules (ECS version is not allowed), personally I feel it unfair because AGA version (the only one playable on my configuration) is discriminated and so am I.

mailman
14 February 2008, 18:57
A small supplement - I found different version and worked out some other combination of tooltypes and managed to run BD table. Maybe the rest will work.

Edited:
Unfortunately only BD works :( Speed Devils is not counting points for ramps, Party Land does not free locked ball...

Here is my score which I did couple minutes ago in Billion Dollar. Feel free to add my score from this table to the round's score. From the reasons pointed above, I will not compete in two other tables (unless AGA version is allowed).

1,168,798,640 - I almost got the billion second time ;)

Shots show the moment when the last bonus was counted, the moment I entered my hiscore, the hiscore itself and the table of scores in game menu.

TodaysForgotten
14 February 2008, 19:43
uh, good lord bat(mail)Man. Someone knows there tables. And here i thought i was owning ass on speed demons. I botched my 2nd ball (2 free lives) and it went down hill from there.

i feel much better about staying in this competition now though after i really dislike pinball games for competition.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Silverevoviii/21139490.png
BD 21,139,490
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Silverevoviii/202714600.png
202,714,600

new score total = 284,955,240

mailman
14 February 2008, 20:04
uh, good lord bat(mail)Man. Someone knows there tables. And here i thought i was owning ass on speed demons.


Pinball Fantasies is very predictive pinball. Especially when you mastered Slam Tilt you can easily learn how to move flippers to get the ball where you want. Of course it does not always go so smooth but the ball calculation can be foreseen ;) This game is still great fun, even when you have seen all the secrets and know exactly how to shoot.

P.S. My personal best on BD is a bit higher than what I achieved today ;) I aimed for the second billion but I lost my last ball and did not have a lucky strike on lottery :)

TodaysForgotten
14 February 2008, 20:19
Pinball Fantasies is very predictive pinball. Especially when you mastered Slam Tilt you can easily learn how to move flippers to get the ball where you want. Of course it does not always go so smooth but the ball calculation can be foreseen ;) This game is still great fun, even when you have seen all the secrets and know exactly how to shoot.

P.S. My personal best on BD is a bit higher than what I achieved today ;) I aimed for the second billion but I lost my last ball and did not have a lucky strike on lottery :)

I have been noticing predictability with this game. Good to know! :P

Graham Humphrey
14 February 2008, 20:23
Shame the other tables don't work for you... I think I've said in the past that I don't like excluding people from the competition because they are unable to run a game so although I wrote only ECS in the rules I think yours is a special case ;)

And anyway I'm convinced both versions of the game are 100% the same gameplay-wise (in future I will check this out before the round)... so sod it, use whatever version you like. That goes for everyone by the way, it's not fair having that rule for one person only.

I'll update the scores and rule later on...

Graham Humphrey
14 February 2008, 21:53
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/755/pinballfantasiesscore3afg3.jpg

Partyland - 54,617,530

Also I was in a bit of a rush earlier and didn't really notice mailman's score. To be honest you would probably win the round with that score on its own - wow :shocked

mailman
14 February 2008, 21:58
Also I was in a bit of a rush earlier and didn't really notice mailman's score. To be honest you would probably win the round with that score on its own - wow :shocked

Only until someone else gets one billion prize ;)

Thanks for letting me play AGA version in other two tables.

New score in Party Land

132,174,640

I couldn't make anything more than 110 millions in Speed Devils. Maybe tomorrow I will give it a try.

I love this game! Anybody, feel free to ask where to get bonuses, modes and others.

ppill
14 February 2008, 22:05
@mailman
:shocked

So you really get a billion after collecting all the prizes?! I thought the JackPot would be something like 100,000,000... geez. I'm usually two prizes short and still suck at getting both the jackpot and super jackpot after collecting the first three.

Hats off Sebastian :bowdown

mailman
14 February 2008, 22:25
@mailman
:shocked

So you really get a billion after collecting all the prizes?! I thought the JackPot would be something like 100,000,000... geez. I'm usually two prizes short and still suck at getting both the jackpot and super jackpot after collecting the first three.

After collecting each batch of prizes you can get jackpot (right ramp). You can even get super jackpot (50 million) if you aim after the jackpot with the third flipper to lower ramp. But they are nothing in comparison with the main prize.

After collecting the second batch you need to lock the ball in cashpot. Red circle with the label BILLION DOLLAR will start to blink. Then you launch the ball and aim for the spin well. ONE BILLION added to your score (plus catchy tune! ;). I almost got the second billion but I lost the ball. My personal best is almost 1,3 billion (higher than I got today). Though I have never got the second billion yet.

What is interesting, this table is not generous in giving you points for collecting the prizes. You'll get more points from cashpot and constantly increasing bonus. It is worthy to get multipliers so the bonus is bigger. On this table I have never got HOLD BONUS. I don't even know if it is available. If it was, the scores could be much higher ;)

My advise to all: learn how to get easy and fast the first batch of prizes (you need to do three double loops (right ramp + upper ramp (SKILL RAMP), right ramp + lower ramp (MULTIPLIER RAMP), left ramp + upper ramp (SKILL RAMP)). Collect prizes (top ramp). They will be locked now and you can concentrate on collecting the second batch of prizes. If aim precisely, the first batch can be collected after a minute of play.

Hungry Horace
14 February 2008, 22:59
i think the billion (thousand-million) is the same bug as Stone & Bones.


Sorry, but no coder would make a game where the complete-scores on some tables are in the 100 million range, and then some tables in the few billion range.

it just doesnt make sense imho. I'm sure Mailman will disagree however.

ppill
14 February 2008, 23:00
The problem is not knowing how to light the prizes or bonuses (as it's all nicely laid out in the manual) but DOING it ;)

I probably get too excited when I'm doing OK and actually being aware where the balls SHOULD go next makes it more infuriating when it doesn't (which unfortunately means most of the time ;)).


But slowly getting the hang of it...

ppill
14 February 2008, 23:06
@Hungry Horace

I personally don't think it's a bug. It's there, spelled out on the table, "1 Billion". And you *really* need to be on top of your game to get it. I though the game designers wouldn't take it that literally but I guess they did.

Hungry Horace
14 February 2008, 23:21
'billion dollar' is not the same as 'billion points' ;)

i'm playing devil's advocate - i dont know the answer, nor claim to. Im just saying it seems strange to me, so i still believe its a bug. It would take one of the programmers, or someone who had disassembled the game (whdload slave author?) to convince me otherwise atm.

ppill
14 February 2008, 23:35
Well... the manual describes in detail how to light the "1 Billion" (it doesn't say of what) indicator so why would they go through all that trouble designing various combos and their exact order. A bug usually means something unexpected. This doesn't happen by chance.

CHook/OTT
14 February 2008, 23:35
And anyway I'm convinced both versions of the game are 100% the same gameplay-wise (in future I will check this out before the round)... so sod it, use whatever version you like. That goes for everyone by the way, it's not fair having that rule for one person only.

I'll update the scores and rule later on...

:great

I'll give this a bash then (AGA) Don't know why but the different ECS versions i've tried when the table is scrolling quick push the processor above 100% and they become unplayable/flippers don't respond :confused

CHook/OTT
14 February 2008, 23:42
Anybody, feel free to ask where to get bonuses, modes and others.

Just post all the info :great

The only thing i can do on Speed Devils is light up PIT and get the bonus multiplyer (and the music is crap on that table too)

ppill
14 February 2008, 23:48
It's all there in the manual. Check out the game's page at lemonamiga.com. It's in the documents section.

And the music at Speed Devils rocks (my favourite of all the tables)!

-Table 2 SPEED DEVILS-

Gear Spell GEAR as follows:
1. Shoot the JUMP ramp to light G.
2. Shoot the OFFROAD ramp to light E.
3. Shoot B,U and R targets to light A.
4. Shoot N,I and N targets to light R.
These can completed in any order.

Position Each GEAR spelt enables 2 POSITION OVERTAKES which are
collected by shooting the RIGHT and LEFT (or vice-versa)
ramps one after the other.

Extra Ball Enabled after completing 20 MILES, Scored by shooting
the TOP RIGHT passage when light enabled.

Jackpot Collected by shooting the JUMP ramp when the JACKPOT
light is lit. Lit for 20 seconds only.

Super-Jackpot Collect SUPER JACKPOT in the PIT-SHOP after scoring
JACKPOT on the JUMP ramp.

Miles Shoot the LEFT or RIGHT ramp to collect 1 MILE.

Million Shoot the RIGHT and LEFT (or vice versa) ramps within
5 seconds to score 1 MILLION points.

Speed Shoot the LEFT and RIGHT ramps and then shoot the JUMP
ramp to increase the SPEEDOMETER one step. Each ramp
then scores the SPEED value x1000 points.

Auto-Features Every 2 SPEED steps enables a BONUS PART for your CAR.
Collect the part by shooting the flashing 1-5 lights.
A CAR part flashes when collected.

Goal Enabled when POSITION 1 is reached. This also enables
the JACKPOT for 20 seconds. Collect the GOAL in the
PIT-STOP.

Multi-Bonus Light all the PIT lights and shoot the OFFROAD ramp to
collect the next MULTI-BONUS. After all bonuses are
collected lighting PIT scores 1 MILLION points.

Off-Road Enabled after 10, 40, 60 ... miles. All targets score
100,000 points for 25 seconds.

Turbo-Mode Enabled when GOAL is collected. Awards 5 MILLION points
on all ramps for 25 seconds.

Jump Enabled after collecting 30, 50, 70 ... miles etc and
is collected on the JUMP ramp. JUMP awards 10 MILLION
points.

Graham Humphrey
15 February 2008, 00:14
I wonder if this bit from the manual about Billion Dollar Gameshow may convince you the 1 billion thing isn't a bug, Horace? ;)


Collect Prizes Shoot the LOOP MIL down to the LEFT BALL TRAP to collect
a prize. Collecting 3 prizes enables the second set of
3 prizes and the JACKPOT. When all 6 prizes have been
collected shoot for the LOCK. This enables BILLION which
can be collected in the LEFT BALL TRAP.


Now why the heck would it be called Billion if it didn't give you a billion points?

By the way here (http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/docs.php?id=1217) is the link to the full manual on Lemon.

On another subject - I've actually had a few problems myself with the WHDLoad ECS version (namely the tables sometimes decide not to load, and in one case all the graphics in Speed Devils were badly corrupt), and as it seems a bit unreliable I've switched to the CD32 version.

Hungry Horace
15 February 2008, 00:26
yes it does convince me more than 'cos its named it' - although it still doesnt specifically say 'points' which it really should. If it gave you 2 billion points however, i would be less convinced.


just saying - the table name is no evidence - what is in a name after all? (that's a rethorical, philosphical question btw)

i dont expect to rewarded an actual World of Parties just for completing the first table....

DamienD
15 February 2008, 01:13
And the music at Speed Devils rocks (my favourite of all the tables)!
Must say that Speed Devils is also my favourite table :agree

...just wish I had time to play :crying

mailman
15 February 2008, 08:50
i think the billion (thousand-million) is the same bug as Stone & Bones.

Sorry, but no coder would make a game where the complete-scores on some tables are in the 100 million range, and then some tables in the few billion range.

You were right. I will disagree. What is the problem with reaching on one table over billion while on the other less than this? Strange method of revealing bugs: "because it does not fit to the rest of the game". This reasoning seems senseless for me. Highscore table is prepared for such score (in fact, it is even prepared for much higher scores). In the other thread I think I explained to you why setting a score over billion in Stones'n'Bones is not a bug but a really huge achievement. Getting 300-400 million can be done quite easily. If you collect Grim Reaper you double your points and you get nearly billion. So what is the problem playing further reaching over billion? The same you could say that playing Slam Tilt scores in billions are bugs.

All I can tell you, billion in BD table (and in others in Pinball Fantasies) is not a bug. If I had a chance to record longplay of my play I would prove it to you that there is billion points message available after collecting this prize.

Hungry Horace
15 February 2008, 09:30
I already retracted that comment mailman if you care to read beyond, but I stand by the Stones & Bones reasoning (as others do) until i see evidence otherwise (as was shown here with B.D.GS.) - and it's already been noted there are -multiple- bugs with that table anyway. on S&B it's not just a billion bonus, its several billion granted very suddenly, and inconsistently - i've had it myself, and frankly it didnt look right (and i dont recall any 'billion bonus' message either)


scores on Slamtilt are completely irrelevant - it's a totally different game, where the scores -are- much higher, and it doesnt have many other people reporting bugs in the game.

mailman
15 February 2008, 09:48
I already retracted that comment mailman if you care to read beyond, but I stand by the Stones & Bones reasoning (as others do) until i see evidence otherwise (as was shown here with B.D.GS.) - and it's already been noted there are -multiple- bugs with that table anyway. on S&B it's not just a billion bonus, its several billion granted very suddenly, and inconsistently - i've had it myself, and frankly it didnt look right (and i dont recall any 'billion bonus' message either)


If it happened very suddenly, just like that, without getting jackpot or anything similar then for sure this would be a bug. No doubt about it. Still, if it is something you get by normal play, shooting jackpots and prizes, I don't see why it is so hard to believe it is not a bug. Though, I have never encountered anything like this in Pinball Fantasies (some years of play ECS version on A500 and 10 years of play AGA version). There are many cracked versions which might cause this. Has anyone considered that this could be the reason and there is no point discussing it? I don't argue because I like to argue. I see no point why should I claim so because I want to have mine to be on top. I just know what I saw and experienced. I and my brother have played a lot in Pinball Fantasies and for all these years we have never had such behaviour of this game. I am not saying the game is flawless. I discovered many bugs in each table of Fantasies and Dreams but they are connected with things like stoppage of played mode, ball rotating in strange direction. But messing up a score? Nothing such I have ever seen.

john4p
15 February 2008, 10:05
Nice score, mailman!

Now that AGA-version is allowed: is there a WHDownload-version that has an intro and menu like the ECS-version? The one I've tried only had a simple text menu that lets you directly select each table (I'd like to have the highsore-tableviews).

Graham Humphrey
15 February 2008, 10:42
The CD32 version has this, you can get that here (http://www.whdownload.com/games/Pack-P-2007-01-30/PinballFantasies_v2.5_CD32.zip).

I use it over the AGA version for that reason... I wonder why they got rid of the intro and menu from the ECS version? It just looks really amateurish.

mailman
15 February 2008, 10:46
The CD32 version has this, you can get that here (http://www.whdownload.com/games/Pack-P-2007-01-30/PinballFantasies_v2.5_CD32.zip).

I use it over the AGA version for that reason... I wonder why they got rid of the intro and menu from the ECS version? It just looks really amateurish.

My version has the intro and menu. I have no idea what version you are playing.

Graham Humphrey
15 February 2008, 10:49
I've never seen an AGA version which has the intro and menu, the version I've got has the same text menu that john4p has. I think this version is on WHDownload but I couldn't be totally sure on that, I'll have to check now as I'm curious.

EDIT: Yep, it is. The version I've got on floppy somewhere also has that text menu.

Hungry Horace
15 February 2008, 10:59
for the record, i've never played a cracked version of this game, and neither has my mum (who also reported bugs across 10 years of near-daily play!) - so any bugs i've seen are on official versions.

Only ever played the CD32 version more than couple of minutes. Never really saw the point in the disk versions, since i love the pad control.

beleive me, i'd really like to beleive this game isnt bugged in the slightest, i've just had doubts put across by my own experiences and such reports from other people. (including the old lemon comp.)

john4p
15 February 2008, 12:33
Thanks, Graham! I'll use the CD32-version then.

ppill
15 February 2008, 15:03
How to exit the CD32 version so that it saves the highscore? I just has a pretty good score on PL, left the table with ESC, used the same key to quit and no trace of my score :banghead

mailman
15 February 2008, 16:01
How to exit the CD32 version so that it saves the highscore? I just has a pretty good score on PL, left the table with ESC, used the same key to quit and no trace of my score :banghead

Do you play using WHDLoad? If yes, then press ESC in menu. If you play simply from HD, the CD32 version saves score to ENV after quitting the table.

mailman
15 February 2008, 18:02
Graham and Biscuit, I have been thinking about creating seperate score tables for each pinball table (something similar to what was done on Lemon in case of Stunt Car Racer round). Unless somebody gets billion in Billion Dollar Game Show, I am already the winner. Each table should be considered as seperate subround and at the end points for places should be added to create overall round place table. This way until the end there will be competition on each table. Now everybody needs to get billion in BD to get close to my score so the other tables will not be so popular.

What do you think? This method is quite fair because eg. a person like me who wins in BD might not win in SD and PL, so in overall I will not be in the first place. In present I am the winner (unless somebody gets billion).

Graham Humphrey
15 February 2008, 18:16
This is something we spent some time discussing prior to the season starting but we opted for the simple "adding all the scores up" method because it's, well, simple to work out. However yours was an idea we discussed and if we implemented it it would, I guess, change the results significantly.

It could make things more interesting. I would like to know what other people think, certainly.

Although I would be reluctant to change it when the round is already underway.

john4p
15 February 2008, 19:05
I vote against changing the rules (except the one allowing us to use AGA, of course... ;))!

mailman
15 February 2008, 19:17
170,929,930 - Speed Devils

ppill
15 February 2008, 19:29
Do you play using WHDLoad? If yes, then press ESC in menu. If you play simply from HD, the CD32 version saves score to ENV after quitting the table.

I play the CD32 WHDLoad version and as I wrote in my previous post I left the game by pressing ESC in the table menu and it didn't save the scores. Does your version save highscores Graham?

As to the rules I'd opt for mailman's suggestion. Even if someone gets better scores on the two other tables there's almost no way one can get ahead. You could be better at the game as a whole (2 out of three tables) but still come second.

mailman
15 February 2008, 19:37
I play the CD32 WHDLoad version and as I wrote in my previous post I left the game by pressing ESC in the table menu and it didn't save the scores. Does your version save highscores Graham?

Maybe it will help. This is the structure of data/ directory of my PF.

Directory Work:Games/Pinballs/PinballFantasies/data

highs Dir ----RWED
Libs Dir ----RWED
prefs Dir ----RWED
pinball 4348 ----RWED
pinball1.dat 219580 ----RWED
pinball2.dat 226764 ----RWED
pinball3.dat 189116 ----RWED
pinball4.dat 54672 ----RWED
pinfilea.dat 805120 ----RWED
pinfileb.dat 809668 ----RWED
pinfilec.dat 795796 ----RWED
pinfiled.dat 749812 ----RWED
pinstg1a.dat 45828 ----RWED
pinstg1b.dat 45828 ----RWED
pinstg2a.dat 45828 ----RWED
pinstg2b.dat 45828 ----RWED

What is inside the directories highs, prefs and libs I uploaded to The Zone. I also uploaded my slave (I quit using ESC key).

Graham Humphrey
15 February 2008, 20:01
I play the CD32 WHDLoad version and as I wrote in my previous post I left the game by pressing ESC in the table menu and it didn't save the scores. Does your version save highscores Graham?

Yes it does. Silly question perhaps but you did quit out of the game altogether after quitting the table too, didn't you...?

As to the rules I'd opt for mailman's suggestion. Even if someone gets better scores on the two other tables there's almost no way one can get ahead. You could be better at the game as a whole (2 out of three tables) but still come second.

I must admit before this started I had no idea that it would be totally unbalanced, seeing as in one table you can realistically score far more than the others...

CHook/OTT
15 February 2008, 20:07
I must admit before this started I had no idea that it would be totally unbalanced, seeing as in one table you can realistically score far more than the others...

Ignition vs Nightmare on Pinball Dreams was the same from what i can remember

ppill
15 February 2008, 20:11
Yes it does. Silly question perhaps but you did quit out of the game altogether after quitting the table too, didn't you...?

Yes.

I must admit before this started I had no idea that it would be totally unbalanced, seeing as in one table you can realistically score far more than the others...

I guess no one expected such scores.

Thanks mailman will give it a try.

mailman
15 February 2008, 21:12
Yes it does. Silly question perhaps but you did quit out of the game altogether after quitting the table too, didn't you...?

Good point Graham. The game saves scores when quitting the table. By quitting I mean using ESC key and confirming it by Y key. The game backs to menu then. In menu you can quit game by default QUITKEY in WHDLoad. ppill, if you quit game before that, the scores will not be saved.

john4p
16 February 2008, 10:56
CD32-version doesn't save my scores, either (but that doesn't keep me from taking screenshots).

I reconsidered mailman's suggestion and changed my mind. T'would be best to give 15, 12, 10, ... (temporary) points per table and in the end the one with the most points would receive 15 championship points, the 2nd 12 and so on.
But if two or more people have the same points the whole score should be used as tie-breaker.
So if for example mailman and turrican3 both got 15+12+12=39 (temporary) points and mailman's whole score would be 1,600,000,000 whilst turrican3's whole score were 850,000,000 mailman would still be 1st and get 15 championship points.

Graham Humphrey
16 February 2008, 11:00
I don't really understand why you're having problems, just last night the CD32 version saved my scores fine. Very strange.

As for the scoring idea, when Biscuit pops up again I'm sure he'll give his opinion on it.

turrican3
16 February 2008, 11:49
CD32-version doesn't save my scores, either (but that doesn't keep me from taking screenshots).

I reconsidered mailman's suggestion and changed my mind. T'would be best to give 15, 12, 10, ... (temporary) points per table and in the end the one with the most points would receive 15 championship points, the 2nd 12 and so on.
But if two or more people have the same points the whole score should be used as tie-breaker.
So if for example mailman and turrican3 both got 15+12+12=39 (temporary) points and mailman's whole score would be 1,600,000,000 whilst turrican3's whole score were 850,000,000 mailman would still be 1st and get 15 championship points.
If you use winuae, i hope you don't forget to set flash ram file in the winuae gui or if you use a real cd32 perhaps you don't have enough flash rom free then delete some scores saved in the cd32 menu.I hope it will help

mailman
16 February 2008, 11:58
182,046,850 - Speed Devils

Graham Humphrey
16 February 2008, 12:32
If you use winuae, i hope you don't forget to set flash ram file in the winuae gui or if you use a real cd32 perhaps you don't have enough flash rom free then delete some scores saved in the cd32 menu.I hope it will help

I think he was using the WHDLoad version so it should save to HD when you exit.

mailman
16 February 2008, 12:57
I think he was using the WHDLoad version so it should save to HD when you exit.

But first the game itself needs to save it. And it does it only when you leave table by quitting it by ESC key.

john4p
16 February 2008, 20:27
Yes, I use WHDLoad-version. And I left the table with Escape+Y. And then I left the game once with Escape and once with the assigned WHDLoad exit key (*). Doesn't save the highscore.

Maybe turrican3 is right and I'd even need flashrom although I use WHDLoad. Thanks for the information!

But it doesn't matter much - if the highscores don't get saved at least I have the advantage of "only" having to beat the preset highscore in order to obtain an additional extraball...

Biscuit
16 February 2008, 20:57
As for the scoring idea, when Biscuit pops up again I'm sure he'll give his opinion on it.
POP.

I reconsidered mailman's suggestion and changed my mind. T'would be best to give 15, 12, 10, ... (temporary) points per table and in the end the one with the most points would receive 15 championship points, the 2nd 12 and so on.
But if two or more people have the same points the whole score should be used as tie-breaker.
This is one of my preferred methods. I would most commonly use this for multi event games, which I essentially did for Stunt Car Racer. However, the oversight of the billion point score led us to choose a simpler approach.

If you're getting seriously worried about winning mailman you are welcome to retract your scores. :D

No matter which way we score it, you're on target. It's everyone else who's positions are likely to change a bit, but I don't think it will be by a great deal. All we're doing is substituting points in millions with points up to 15. It will take very uneven ability to make a big difference. The billion points thing is a wild card, but you have to be very good to get it, so fairplay.

The question I face is would it be better to reward points gained from wherever the players want to play, or force them to play Speed Devils? :guru

Graham and I can put our moosehats on now, and talk this over in the clan room.

Graham Humphrey
17 February 2008, 12:10
Into the second week now, and mailman has a very comfortable lead at the minute. Still a long way to go though... I hope we get more people enter, only eight so far...

Graham Humphrey
18 February 2008, 21:07
Just to clarify the scoring system thing: we're going to keep it as it is. We don't think it's a great idea to keep changing the rules during the round and although maybe it wouldn't affect the standings a great deal, it wouldn't be fair on the people who do lose ground. Basically it's not really worth the effort ;)

paranoid
18 February 2008, 22:36
Little update, happy for getting 50 mil on SD... :)

paranoid - 111,163,770 (PL: 26,156,870, SD: 51,080,570, BD: 33,926,330)

Graham Humphrey
18 February 2008, 23:10
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4690/pinballfantasiesscore4auq1.jpg

Party Land - 60,701,840

Oh, and thank you paranoid for working out the total score for yourself, saves me some work :D

paranoid
19 February 2008, 19:57
You took my word for it? Then I'd like to change my answer to 314,212,653,672. (kidding)

john4p
21 February 2008, 18:04
Help please!

I can often manage to light the tv, the trip and the car at "Billion Dollar Gameshow", but then, when I have to, I almost always fail to hit the ramp to collect the prizes...

Does someone know a technique how to easily hit the goddamn "Loop Mill"-Ramp (with enough power)?

mailman
21 February 2008, 18:39
Help please!

I can often manage to light the tv, the trip and the car at "Billion Dollar Gameshow", but then, when I have to, I almost always fail to hit the ramp to collect the prizes...

Does someone know a technique how to easily hit the goddamn "Loop Mill"-Ramp (with enough power)?

The ball has to be more than in the middle of the flipper but less than in a third fourth (you need to practice). The best technique to give it the best speed is to shoot the left or right ramp and then shoot the third flipper in Skill Ramp. The ball goes down in ramp and you can shoot "up the hill/mill" ;)

john4p
21 February 2008, 20:17
Okay, thanks to the pro!

Graham Humphrey
22 February 2008, 23:41
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/5797/pinballfantasiesscore3bup1.jpg

Billion Dollar Gameshow - 62,763,310

A couple of questions:

1. How do you get the extra ball? I can light it up but I don't know how to actually get it.

2. Where is everybody? Still only nine entries so far...

Biscuit
23 February 2008, 04:37
1. How do you get the extra ball? I can light it up but I don't know how to actually get it.
Up the left ramp. I wondered for a while too.

Graham Humphrey
23 February 2008, 10:48
Thanks. That had me totally baffled.

TodaysForgotten
24 February 2008, 10:21
Billion Dollar Gameshow - 62,763,310

A couple of questions:

1. How do you get the extra ball? I can light it up but I don't know how to actually get it.

2. Where is everybody? Still only nine entries so far...

im going to guess either pinballed out or not fancying pinball....onto the next game! (:

mailman
24 February 2008, 10:26
im going to guess either pinballed out or not fancying pinball....onto the next game! (:

My guess is that they are voting for games they are not going to play. There are two people who voted for PF and haven't bothered to play yet ;)

john4p
24 February 2008, 12:24
I just found out why I never was able to hit that DAMN LOOP MILL RAMP in Billion Dollar Gameshow: it's the goddamn JIT-switch in WinUAE!

With "Just-In-Time" emulation (which I still had active because it was needed by Super Stardust) the ball (more precisely: the physics engine) behaves different (more precisely: WRONG)!

With JIT on it's damn near impossible to hit the loop mill ramp with the left flipper! I deactivated it and now it's just like in the old days.

Now I'm off to some huge scores...

TodaysForgotten
24 February 2008, 21:06
My guess is that they are voting for games they are not going to play. There are two people who voted for PF and haven't bothered to play yet ;)

hehe...this could be as well.

.

Now I'm off to some huge scores...

no john, just keep JIT on. Ok? we dont need another huge score.

On a serious note, i have JIT enabled too. Does it really make that much of a difference? I noticed on billionaire and i think SD the balls loves to hit the two alleys (the ones where you lose your life)

Graham Humphrey
24 February 2008, 22:59
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/3674/pinballfantasiesscore4bmt8.jpg

Billion Dollar Gameshow - 77,389,470

john4p
25 February 2008, 09:26
On a serious note, i have JIT enabled too. Does it really make that much of a difference? I noticed on billionaire and i think SD the balls loves to hit the two alleys (the ones where you lose your life)
Yes - it does. On Billion Dollar it's a disadvantage because it's almost impossible to hit the loop mill ramp an purpose.

Speed Devils on the other hand seems easier with JIT on! That's because it's imho easier to constantly hit the left ramp and then the right ramp and then again the left ramp and so on. It took me one hour to get 74 millions on Speed Devils with activated JIT. Now that it's deactivated I couldn't get past 20 millions in three hours playing.

That's why I let my Speed Devils score be deleted. Maybe it's really easier with the wrong JIT-activated-emulation. Thus I got new scores for PL and BD already (better than my old anway) with JIT off and will get new score on SD, too.

You're right - the ball also gets lost more often in the side lanes on every table with JIT. And some sound effects are often missing with JIT.

Note that JIT also much depends on your system - it's highly unpredictable. Super Stardust is the only game I know of that needs JIT.


edit: Okay, now I've got a respectable score on Speed Devils as well without JIT. It's actually not that big difference on this table. With JIT it's a tad easier to hit the left ramp, but overall the ball is more controlable without JIT...

TodaysForgotten
25 February 2008, 20:16
I dont even think im going to bother. Im pin(blue)balled out. Hopefully, my score will keep me in second as the next 5 days inch closer. I see biscuit is inching closer. Biscuit, if you're read this, stop playing pinball fantasies. Third is a totally respectable position if the standings stay this way on march 1.

edit - i just noticed i dont have jit anyhow...i guess my luck with the alleys is just that, luck.

Biscuit
26 February 2008, 03:20
I dont even think im going to bother. Im pin(blue)balled out. Hopefully, my score will keep me in second as the next 5 days inch closer. I see biscuit is inching closer. Biscuit, if you're read this, stop playing pinball fantasies. Third is a totally respectable position if the standings stay this way on march 1.

Duly noted.

:blased *boots emulator*

Biscuit
26 February 2008, 04:23
:D

Never tempt fate. ;)

TodaysForgotten
26 February 2008, 06:25
haha. You dont mean that! (:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Silverevoviii/26011490.png
26011490

not happy with this run.

new total 289,827,240

Graham Humphrey
26 February 2008, 09:59
haha. You dont mean that! (:

This is what happens if you open your mouth in that way ;)

Believe me, I had to find out the hard way :D

TodaysForgotten
27 February 2008, 04:05
Ok. I seriously hate this game. I was recking havoc on this table. Then what has been frustrating me all day is how unrealistic (for me) this table is. I had just "raised millions" and hit the 5x jackpot. The ball comes down, i hate it, again for raising millions and once again another 5xjackpot...i miss the hit and the ball goes up near the middle and then comes down to the side alley. A few bounces of losing a ball and staying in play happens until the ball decides to finally go down the right lane to my flipper. The only problem is as the ball is half way past the post separating the gutter alley and the flipper lane, it decides to take a bounce, change direction, hug the post and slip into the gutter alley. Clearly the biggest flaw in physics ive ever seen.

Does anyone else have the issue where 65% of the time if the ball bounces between bumpers (regardless of how many times) if you dont try to tilt the table (which this is a crapshoot) the ball goes into the gutter? I played about 8 hours of this game. 3 chances i had a good score going when 3 similar events happened as the one explained above. ARGGH
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Silverevoviii/46656090.png
46656090

new score 310,471,840

Biscuit
27 February 2008, 06:00
Billion Dollar Gameshow definitely has an infinite balls bug. Posted on the lemon thread.

TodaysForgotten
27 February 2008, 15:17
Yea i read your post over on lemon. Im not even good enough to get all the prizes lit. Interesting non-the-less. id probably feel like shit for a few hours if i submitted a fabricated score.

Biscuit
27 February 2008, 22:50
Yeah - I knew I couldn't submit it. At first I thought I'd picked up a couple of extra balls without noticing. Then I desperately hoped I'd found a secret bonus that gave me a load. But that was total bs as I soon realized and did the tilt thing. Then I threw a wobbly. :guru

All in a good Amiga session.

Graham Humphrey
28 February 2008, 00:52
Just three days left now... maybe those elusive new contestants will crawl out of the woodwork ;)

john4p
28 February 2008, 07:53
A score of 0 (screenshot!) on one of the tables should be enough to get
3 points for the league...

Graham Humphrey
28 February 2008, 09:47
I'm not having that, don't go giving people any ideas :p

lilalurl
28 February 2008, 09:59
Well in fact getting 0 is not that easy... Impossible I think in Speed devils and in Party land if you want to avoid the launch again message by trying to hold the ball for a few seconds you might inadvertently trigger something that will add to your score:blased.

Graham Humphrey
28 February 2008, 10:09
What I would suggest though is that anyone who was thinking of entering but haven't got very good scores is to enter 'em anyway because you'll score some points for it.

john4p
28 February 2008, 13:10
@lilalurl: Just push space repeatedly - TILT TILT TILT - and you'll get no score and no retry...

lilalurl
28 February 2008, 13:25
:laughing didn't think about that...
However I just tried on Speed Devil and if you tilt before hitting one of the PIT sensor, once the ball get to the bottom, you get a 'Play More - Player 1' message!!!!:spin

TodaysForgotten
28 February 2008, 14:23
Never tilt on BD when the ball goes into the jackpot hole on the left. You'll have to reset your amiga or emulator. Very annoying.

john4p
28 February 2008, 15:31
@lilalurl: All the more reason to like Speed Devils. As opposed to Billion Dollar you keep your "gears", "speed", "race position" and even a lit jump (worth 10 millions) when you lose a ball!
On BD you always have to do everything again (except when collected three prizes). Plus the ball gets stuck in the pit when tilt... ;)

lilalurl
28 February 2008, 16:37
Yeah, I think that is my preferred table in Fantasies (though I always preferred Illusions).

Anyway this does mean I can't get a 0 score to post as a screenshot:sad.
That would have been fun entering a competition and actually getting points (for the league) for not being to play a game at all.
Even funnier could be the fact that with 3 league points I could end up with a better ranking that someone who seriously played other rounds but could not reach at least at the 12th position because of fierce competition for those other rounds.:lol

CHook/OTT
28 February 2008, 20:41
A score of 0 (screenshot!) on one of the tables should be enough to get
3 points for the league...

I tried something similar with Skweek last year :D

(still not had time to play it yet)

(playing Unchartered on PS3)

Graham Humphrey
28 February 2008, 21:43
I believe you submitted a score of 10 for that one ;)

CHook/OTT
29 February 2008, 23:51
:) Aye

A very poor (& late) 1st attempt

Party Land: 41,977,120
Speed Devils: 16,610,990
Billion Dollar Gameshow: 21,322,170

Total: 79,910,280

Graham Humphrey
01 March 2008, 00:38
Nice one - you got the score for Partyland wrong though, it should be a 9 instead of an 8. As I'm in that sort of mood though, I'll correct it for you ;)

EDIT: Forgot to update the total score also. Now fixed. Ahem.

Biscuit
01 March 2008, 03:20
And if we're being super accurate then the last three digits should be '280' instead of '820'. ;)

CHook/OTT
01 March 2008, 09:16
:banghead super accurate is good

Graham Humphrey
01 March 2008, 10:48
Doh! Fixed.

Graham Humphrey
01 March 2008, 15:27
Just mere hours left now, folks...

cane
01 March 2008, 23:39
Here are my humble scores:
Party Land: 62,098,540
Speed Devils: 14,304,100
Billion Dollar: 55,133,560

Total: 131,536,200

Magno Boots
02 March 2008, 00:35
pl - 23,320,290
sd - 10,150,500
bd - 2,126,480

Rubbish total = 35,597,270

16048

Graham Humphrey
02 March 2008, 01:45
And that's all, folks!