where can I get workbench or kickrom

[eh?]

I keep getting told that I need a workbench or kick rom, where can I get these from? the websites ive been pointed to dont exist any more =( please help

Thanks

[Paul]

You can buy what you want from
http://www.cloanto.com/amiga/forever/

Also read
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2050

[eh?]

you seriously have to buy the roms or workbench images for Winuae or Fellow??? why is that, I only want to mess about with a few Amiga games on my super powerful P4 PC, does this mean that my Fellow and Winuae are useless then unless I buy these things? I have an ATari ST Emulator and Spectrum emulator, both with 1000's of games and they were all free that cant be right, can it?

Slightly confused

C

[oldpx]

You don't have to buy but if we keep on talking I may fail to keep the warez beast within me.

[eh]

eh????

[Kodoichi]

/me tries to hold back Burseg

"You must resist!"

[Drake1009]

I think he means that the kick.rom and workbench are still copyrighted and sold and as such you are encouraged to buy it. Wether keeping the warez beast within him means he'll eventually point you to somewhere with the roms if he can keep it within, or if it gets out and escapes and runs loose with warez sites flying everywhere I don't know.

[eh]

well if someone was to point me in that direction that would be great because then I know which website that I shouldnt look at in future =)

no seriously though, you know what im after, I just cant believe that its chargeable, as I mentioned about the other emulators I have, i can understand if you wanted to run it on an Amiga then fairenough but charging to run it on a PC seems strange.

I love the Amiga, I had an A1200 with CD drive etc etc for many years but in the end had to give in to the pc as nothing was available for me.

Anyway, if you can help, great, if not thanks for trying.

C

[oldpx]

Why don't you register? (so that you can have a pm button people will click to send you messages ;) )

[RCK]

No warez is allowed on this board.
If you had one account here, you may discuss of such thing with privates messages, but there won't be public warez link here.

[eh?]

thanks

[oldpx]

"Welcome to our newest member, eh?"

good nick. :shocked

[Codetapper]

Isn't it amazing that whenever just about anyone comes to EAB, they do not register, do not read the FAQs (in their inevitable search for romz'n'warez) and also seem incapable of using a search engine to find some of the most common kickstart files on the internet?

:(

[RetroMan]

It´s even faster to do a quick search on G**gle with only two words and you get more than TEN working download pages on the first two search pages :laugh :laugh :laugh But I think most of´em are way too lazy to try anyway :cheese

[Dr Xavier]

@ Codetapper & Retroman....Speaking as a newbie I think you're right!:)

[Twistin'Ghost]

Originally posted by eh
no seriously though, you know what im after, I just cant believe that its chargeable, as I mentioned about the other emulators I have, i can understand if you wanted to run it on an Amiga then fairenough but charging to run it on a PC seems strange.
You can't believe that a piece of intellectual property is chargeable? Where do you live that software and hardware is free? And your thinking that if you buy the real thing, it's OK to charge you for the roms, but if you're running it for free in an emulator on a PC, you should have special consideration and not have to pay...I think it's more the other way around. It's free to real Amiga users because it's hardware on their actual real Amiga.

Either way, like the old crews used to say, a program worth using is a program worth buying.

[Djay]

i've often posted links for Emuchina, is that warez mongering?

*i'm not being rude when i ask this.

[eh?]

you lot are talking pants. I am an experienced computer user and do more stuff than most of you can think of. I have a very powerfull pc which is a 100 times better than my old A1200 060fpu Amiga with internet access and cd rom drive! I asked on this board because I actually did a few searches and all the links I found were dead so I thought I would ask on this board because you lot are meant to be the experts, I wasnt aware it was chargable as I said I had other emulators and they were all free! I was hoping that some nice person would help me out (which they did, thanks B) but the rest of you just jump on the band waggon, nice way to treat a new member, now get a life! I only wanted the amiga emulator to play scorched tanks, but I guess I'll scrap that idea and just play Max Payne or Medal of Honour on my nice pc.

This isnt meant to cause offence to those helpful people just those idiots with a narrow mind.

[Twistin'Ghost]

Originally posted by eh?
you lot are talking pants. I am an experienced computer user and do more stuff than most of you can think of. I have a very powerfull pc which is a 100 times better than my old A1200 060fpu Amiga with internet access and cd rom drive! I asked on this board because I actually did a few searches and all the links I found were dead so I thought I would ask on this board because you lot are meant to be the experts, I wasnt aware it was chargable as I said I had other emulators and they were all free! I was hoping that some nice person would help me out (which they did, thanks B) but the rest of you just jump on the band waggon, nice way to treat a new member, now get a life! I only wanted the amiga emulator to play scorched tanks, but I guess I'll scrap that idea and just play Max Payne or Medal of Honour on my nice pc.

This isnt meant to cause offence to those helpful people just those idiots with a narrow mind.
Idiots? For pointing out the simple fact that everything you want in the world doesn't mean you are obligated to it? Nobody said anything about your knowledge (or lack thereof), nor about how powerful your PC is. And how could you know if you do or do not do more with your computer than most of us? Sheesh! Either way, what has that got to do with any of this?

Nor did anybody try to sell you on using an Amiga over your PC. The points were not made to try to 'sell you' Amiga ROMs. Paul said: "You can buy what you want...", he didn't say you had to. Likewise, I responded to the word chargeable, which I stand by. Despite how many emulators you use, their OS and system roms are still protected by copyright. But that doesn't mean I am being rude and telling you to go buy the machines or that you're breaking the law. That's for you to deal with in your own way (if at all). Codetapper and Retro pointed out how easy this info is to find if you do a bit of footwork on your own. People aren't narrow-minded simply because they don't sugar-coat their responses.

[RCK]

@eh?: I'm totally agree with the moderators (http://eab.abime.net/showgroups.php) point of view...

[utri007]

They aren't that bad.

Imean they surprised me positive way

[CodyJarrett]

'Eh?' - please note these few points:

- Most emulators (for any system) are free, because they are written by fans and distributed. The system ROMs are still the intellectual property of the companies that created them - just because the emulators are free, doesn't mean that the ROMs are too.

- This normally isn't a problem as system ROMs can be easily found on the Internet with Google.

- However, with the Amiga, there is still a company out there trying to use the Amiga name and they are quite protective of their kickstart ROMs. We don't want the English Amiga Board shut down because we did something so obviously illegal on it.

- However, we do swap Amiga games which are quite old - a lot of these companies don't exist and no-one really seems to care too much about this. It may seem like hypocrisy, but the only reason we supply games and not system ROMs is to keep the English Amiga Board reasonably safe.

- Don't assume that we all blindly use Amigas instead of PCs - some do, but others (like myself) are currently playing Medal Of Honor and played Max Payne a couple of months ago.

- As Twistin' said, the issue of how much you know and we know about computers has got nothing to do with the posting. Nor the issue of how powerful your PC compared to an Amiga is.

[Rotr]

Well I'm not sure if it's a good idea to post my problem here since seeing which way this discussion was going but I'm giving it a try anyway.
I own an A600 which happens to have a bad diskdrive, other than that it works fine, it also has a hardisk which contains a lot of garbage which makes it rather unstable. Now I didn't get any disks with the machine ( the guy lost them) but I would like to reinstall it's hardisk once I fix its diskdrive. However I fail to see how I can get 'legal' access to something ( namely the workbench and install disk) that I think I allready have bought the right for by purchasing the computer. Even if I do by Cloanto's plus pack I only have bought the workbench disk without the installer ( or am I wrong here?).
Well if anybody can help me out here I would appreciate it very much.

@eh? By the way my system holds a mere XP1700 with 512 DDR, KyroII 64MB and 80GB 7200RPM harddisk. Probably not up to your standards but good enough for me ( it emulates my old amiga nicely). Just in case you want to compare size! ;)

[Paul]

You can buy workbench 2.1 floppies from http://amigastuff.co.uk/ but it does not mention the install disk, so maybe you could e-mail to find out if it's included with the set.

Or try google.

[Akira]

You need the 2.05 Install disk? I can hook you up with it by snail-mail, if you want to. Send me a PM

[oldpx]

Why do you need that disk? If you have HDtoolbox somewhere, you can set up your HD and install workbench manually.

[Rotr]

@Burseg

Well it's been several years since I've worked with an Amiga and even then I could hardly be called an 'insider' so if you wouldn't mind could you give me a bit more info on that. Really interrested

@Paul, thanks for the advice but I guess the people at Cloanto who earn a living by tracking down ROMS have heard about google and are quite capable of using it ;)

@Akira

Thanks for the help, really appreciate it.

[oldpx]

HDtoolbox replacements may be found from aminet, with that you can partition your hard drive if you want but if you think it is not necessary, you can simply boot from your workbench disk and format the hard drive like any floppy disk. After that, copying the contents of the workbench disk to the hard drive will give you a working HD installed system.

HDtoolbox also lets you modify the boot priority of a drive but since you used that drive previously and can already boot from it, you can skip this step.

If you'd like, you can copy the extras and fonts disks to the HD as well. It's a good idea to create a drawer named fonts in the root directory and copy the contents of the fonts disk inside this directory.

I don't know how user-startup is handled in a 2.x system but it should be similar to 3.x

After that, if you still need the install disk, pm me. :D

[Rotr]

Thanks for the info Burseg.

I'll give it a go as soon as I can get my hands on some spare parts for the drive.

[sarek2k]

Hi Sarek2k here!

Codetapper knows me and a few other guys majic mushroom, dvs etc anyway i am posting 1st to tell you all to go a bit easier on a new guys such as "EH?" he didn't know the situation and legalaties of downloading amiga romz/workbench'es etc i ask you all now in all honesty 1st time you went to a messgae board did you all read the FAQ and join hell i know i didn't!

Also we have so much sh*t on net these days adverts after adverts etc anyone who wants to get summat just clicks through all the crap then when they get here last thing they can be arsed to do is read more than the already rammed down throat adverts!

Thats my view anyway.

not trying to start trouble but give newbies a break we have all been there even now i am a newbie here and don't mind admiting it! (anyone last time you BOUGHT a game did you install game 1st then read book when needed?)

[Twistin'Ghost]

And to add to that, anyone who doesn't read the FAQ or at least read the message board a bit to get the general tone of the place, should expect to be flamed. It comes with the territory. If a user can't be arsed, then he should be willing to accept the consequences of such actions. Just because it's all new to him/her doesn't mean that the regulars should have to hold the hand of every newbie who shows up with the same repetitive missteps. This is what the FAQ's were put in place for and it is pointless to dismiss a user's insistance on jumping in the lake, then worrying about his inability to swim.