WHDLoad and OS4, can this happen?

[keropi]

Since I hear that with OS4 you can use the chipset, meaning you can have a PAL screenmode on wb, is there a slight chance that we might see an OS4 whdload version? perhaps one that uses the JIT 68k emu?
though I cannot tell how the JIT-emu will work since the OS will be "paused" , but it does not hurt to ask...
also, wepl, do you have an OS4 capable machine? :confused
thanks! :D

[alexh]

Bert has already said no on other forums.

http://amigans.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=1098&forum=11

[Boo Boo]

Is Os4 Classic using E-Uae to slow to run WHDLOAD games?

[Shoonay]

Yet another thing that completely ruins OS4 in me eyes...

[Retro-Nerd]

Running an Amiga emulator on a "so called" Amiga OS? Pretty funny!!! :D

[kriz]

e-uae would be too slow on 240Mhz I think :( And on a classic ? hehe

[alexh]

You forget that AOS4 was never intended as a classic OS and we were all supposed to be running it on 1GHz AmigaOnes or something.

[Wepl]

I have a CSPPC amd also my other hardware seems to be supported.
I will try to install OS4 it in the near future.

On WHDLoad I see no much chances for a OS4 version. There are several technical problems to adapt it, if possible at all. Also there are enough features to add to the current 68k version to fill my spare time.

You also can easily build a dual boot system with OS3.x and run WHDLoad from there.

[keropi]

thanks Wepl !!!

I hope that someone does make a normal bootmanager for the amiga, like the ones available for pc's :spin

[Stokey]

thanks Wepl !!!

I hope that someone does make a normal bootmanager for the amiga, like the ones available for pc's :spin

I'm looking into it. I got OS4 last week, and I've been looking at the boot method. An OS selector for 3.9/4.0/MOS/Linux looks like a fairly easy task.

I've seen your posts on a few message boards asking about OS4 booting, if you still want some advice I'd be happy to share.

[keropi]

thanks Stokey, but I have "resolved" the boot problem, meaning I can use the early startup to choose a boot partition...
still SUCKS though, and if you want to switch between 3.9 and 4.0 you need a cold boot, due to kickstart updates...
thus I have 4.0 on my amigas, but have used it only 2-3 times so far...

[Stokey]

@Keropi

If your OS3.x partition has the highest boot priority, copy Bootloader to C:, and the Kickstart directory to SYS:, then you can start OS4 without going into the Early Startup menu. Just run Bootloader from shell, Amidock, Opus menu etc.

[Slayer]

I'm at a bit of a loss here... just logging in from OS4 myself and got miami configured to my router etc etc etc... I intend to transplant my current OS3.9 installation to the new OS4 setup and not look back... lol

as for whdload... it's like anything... you can't take EVERYTHING with you and so you bloody well shouldn't want to either :D

I'm looking forward to ppc gcc and compiling personally :D

[alexh]

Slayer you are a Freak :)

WHDload (or rather the games and demos it loads) is widely regarded the best part of classic Amiga!

To me, it's the only part.

As for PPC gcc. No-one compiles on their Amiga (do they?). They didnt even compile on the Amiga back in the 1990's (developers had 486 PC's and a serial link!)

Do you self a favour and set up a cross compiling environment on something like a 3GHz Core2 Duo PC. You can compile, transfer, test and debug in the time it would take you to compile on OS4!

[Slayer]

heh

snds like good advice :D

just can't take it ,)

[killergorilla]

WHDload (or rather the games and demos it loads) is widely regarded the best part of classic Amiga!

Amen to that! :agree

[Shoonay]

WHDload (or rather the games and demos it loads) is widely regarded the best part of classic Amiga!Indeed, by George, INDEED. :bowdown
Not only the money is well spent, for the keyfile, games itself are even better with shorter (close to none) loading times and sometimes a save option added. :great

[Boo Boo]

After this thread http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=718000#post718000

I was curious if WHDoad games could be started from OS4 Classic by Reboot and Script/Start

I asked for an OS4 executable that could start a script on one the more OS4 forums

Thanks to Thomas a Tool that he made can be used to Start scripts under OS4 also he did a 68k version. -Meaning you can click directly on a WHDload icon
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=32806&forum=14&start=20&viewmode=flat&order=0#590523
In general this could be a very useful tool - Thankyou Thomas

With this command used for WHDload now starting a simple script

Delete >NIL: RBOOT:NO
Delete >NIL: RBOOT:YES
CD >RBOOT:YES
dir #?.slave >ENV:xfile
echo RBOOT:whdload $xfile >>RBOOT:YES
Echo "RBOOT:RESET" >>RBOOT:YES
Reboot


and this at the start of Primary Boot Partition Startup-Sequence

ASSIGN RBOOT: Your Path
CD RBOOT:
If Exists RBOOT:YES
Rename YES to NO
Execute NO
Else


I did a small install script - but only to be used if you can understand whats happening.
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?8t6md35whclv30d (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?8t6md35whclv30d)

The idea was just to make WHDload accessible from OS4 Classic, id rather use RAD but would need someone to simply test
Mount Rad
cd rad:
Reboot under OS4 Classic
This script works under 3.x I cant guarantee it will under OS4 and might need tweeking but it very simple.

Anyways the information is out there im leaving it there.- all very basic and thanks to Thomas:great a nice tool for OS4 and 68k to start a script.
Dam my curiousity:)

[haymigga]

Boo Boo: This thread caught my interest as this has been my number one problem with OS4 since day 1. Could you explain to me how it actually works. As far as I understand from this thread, you doubleclick a game icon that starts your custom script that reboots the OS4 machine into 68k mode, but how does it work, when you quit the game, does it then automatically reboot in OS4 ppc mode?

Kind regards,
Haymigga

[Boo Boo]

Boo Boo: This thread caught my interest as this has been my number one problem with OS4 since day 1. Could you explain to me how it actually works. As far as I understand from this thread, you doubleclick a game icon that starts your custom script that reboots the OS4 machine into 68k mode,

Yep thats exactley it.-Very Simple:)
OS4 Classic of-course ;)



but how does it work, when you quit the game, does it then automatically reboot in OS4 ppc mode?



Yep thats the idea, I was just curious - I dont actully own OS4 Classic the exe was writen by Thomas

The answear to both questions its based on the assumption that OS4 is the primary boot partion - The first thing that boots when switching on the Amiga.
When exiting the Game it just then goes onto load OS4 - (If its not primary partion the only way around this is RAD but I cant test this)

Going on the above Assumption -The simplest test is to Load OS4 type Reboot in shell and see if this takes you back to 68k.

I was informed that it might need a double Reboot to return to 68k, so alteration to the Script.

!!But obviously becasue making changes to Startup-Sequence - Caution is needed -especially If someone has no idea how to edit there own Startup-Sequence.

[haymigga]

sounds promising, I can't test it myself as I'm limited to 030 on my whdload machine. Could be swell, if you could hibernate/suspend OS4 and then resume OS4 upon exiting the game > then I would more actively start to look for a PPC accelerator again :xmas