Amiga Magazine DVD - EAB Project [Archive]

bippym

14 July 2007, 15:19

What do you guys think to an intercative (of sorts) Magazine DVD giving reviews, walkthroughs, Advice, tips and more with regards to Amiga's, gaming and EAB etc :)

Okay after a quick IRC brainstorm with Zetr0, Graham and THB here is what we have come up with so-far

Reviews with multi-sound tracks (review, mixed and game audio)
Longplays (Basically a walkthru)
Speedruns (Quickest Way to End
Cheats
Hardware Tutorials/Projects
Software Tutorials/Projects
User submissions
Interviews (where possible)
EAB Info
Galleries (Users systems)
Standard DVD Menu structure, and also a HTML menu system for use on PC's
Demo of the month (or quarter) or maybe a top 5 for that issue :D
Game compo screenshots and results :)
An interactive game
Easter eggs :p

Graham Humphrey

14 July 2007, 15:21

I wonder if the APoV team would like to compile some info themselves on DVD or do a DVD special... Man this is an awesome IDEA :)

I wonder who'd be interested

Given how long issue 3 is taking, we'd still be waiting for that this time next century :D

I'd definitely be up for writing for some sort of DVD Amiga mag type thing, it's a great idea.

bippym

14 July 2007, 15:34

Graham.. I'm free later on IRC if you wanna chat about it..

I can build the DVD menu's, structures etc :)

Imagine reviews with video footage, solutions etc :D

Graham Humphrey

14 July 2007, 15:38

That would be cool, it depends on what time you're on IRC as I'm out tonight, but would definitely be interested in discussing this :)

Paul_s

14 July 2007, 16:01

DVD amiga mag would be awesome! Like a compiled version of Amiga Magazine Rack?!

Anywho, just ordered the retro gamer DVD so will let you all know what's like :)

Graham Humphrey

14 July 2007, 16:04

Oh, and sorry for taking your thread off-topic so quickly Paul :laughing

Dizzy

14 July 2007, 16:07

Paul_s dont mind you got a cool avatar ;)

Give some feedback as soon as you got the DVD :)

and Sir Graham a apov dvd sounds cool. Make a thread about it, so people can contribute ;)

bippym

14 July 2007, 16:08

and Sir Graham a apov dvd sounds cool. Make a thread about it, so people can contribute ;)

Oi oi it's my idea.. don't give him the credit ;)

Anyone wanna discuss this i'm on irc now for a ikkle while :D

Graham Humphrey

14 July 2007, 16:09

Bah! Can't get on IRC at the mo :(

Will do another time, but maybe a thread about your plans would be a good idea Bippy?

Dizzy

14 July 2007, 16:10

Oi oi it's my idea.. don't give him the credit ;)

I know :D but I'm trying to inspire Sir G to follow your idea ;) :)

bippym

14 July 2007, 16:10

why not.. when can you?

bippym

14 July 2007, 16:12

Posts moved to a new thread :)

Graham Humphrey

14 July 2007, 16:12

why not.. when can you?

I'm not at home at the mo, this isn't my computer so I'm not about to install software on to someone else's machine ;) I'm off in a bit anyway.

As I said I'm out this evening, but I could do tomorrow evening?

Dizzy

14 July 2007, 16:13

I'm not at home at the mo, this isn't my computer so I'm not about to install software on to someone else's machine ;) I'm off in a bit anyway.

As I said I'm out this evening, but I could do tomorrow evening?

you can chat through your browser ;)

bippym

14 July 2007, 16:15

Hmmm.. well i'll discuss it tonight with anyone who is there :)

I'll create a new chan so guys join #demomag on irc.abime.net

Graham Humphrey

14 July 2007, 16:15

you can chat through your browser ;)

Can you? I never knew that :lol (I don't use IRC very much, that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it)

Think I'll give it a go, won't be here for that long but what the hey ;)

Dizzy

14 July 2007, 16:17

if it could be of any use I could try making a converting the Amiga Power Game VHS :)

Graham Humphrey

14 July 2007, 16:18

I'll create a new chan so guys join #demomag on irc.abime.net

When will this be set up Bippy? Will I be able to access that channel through a browser? (Sorry about these stupid questions) ;)

bippym

14 July 2007, 16:19

It's set now.. Just join #abime net the from the chan window do /join #demomag

bippym

14 July 2007, 16:34

Graham.. Kicked wrong person mate... sorry. get back on IRC :)

Graham Humphrey

14 July 2007, 16:36

Wondered why I'd been kicked off :lol

bippym

14 July 2007, 18:16

Updated first post with some idea's

Does nobody else think this is a good idea?

Zetr0

14 July 2007, 18:38

as a recap from an earlier IRC discussion before bipstah made off with all them sausage rolls :blased

Heres the pitch-ish a multi platform DVDrom that has the following features

Working project name: Abime-zine

1. to be able to play in a regular DVD player
This is to have both a navigational structure and media content streaming.

2. an autorun html navigation for PC's
to instantly access the media and content from the disk

(nice if there was an auto run amiga partition)

Content Ideas / Featuretts / Section Ideas

Project updates of currently housed Abime.net

writeups
voice interviews

Gamming section including

Featured Long plays
Games League

a lot can go in here

Competitions
Feature game guide(s) and tips/tricks

Tuturial Section ( HTML / Videoplays or Narrations )

Hardware projects ( simple to advanced projects )
software uses (i.e Imagine tuts / coding etc )

Member Submissions

member submitted mega game collage (100 titles)
best / worst hand draw screen shot.
Members Gallery

images
tutorials
audio tracks
Demos

theres a lot more, but bippy wrote it down.... i think LOL.. anyway its a really cool project idea and i think this would really complement the EAB :D

more ideas then peoples :D

bippym

14 July 2007, 18:45

We need contributers and a couple of GFX artists to work on the menu's and look/feel of the whole thing..

Will also need someone to build the HTML/DB side in conjunction with me doing the DVD side of it.

Zetr0

14 July 2007, 18:48

I am happy to help with the HTML/DB side, but It would benefit from a couple more contributers as my time is limmited :(

bippym

14 July 2007, 18:49

Yes we have 3 months for issue 1 ;)

We urgently need help, get on IRC

Graham Humphrey

14 July 2007, 19:00

Hey Bippy, I see you posted this on the Lemon Amiga forums, it would be a good idea to post this on other forums as well. Do you want me (if you're not registered) to post a thread on the Retro Gamer forum about this DVD? The more people that are aware of it the better :)

bippym

14 July 2007, 19:02

post everywhere mate, link back here too ;)

Graham Humphrey

14 July 2007, 19:09

Posted a thread on Retro Gamer, hope this is okay...

http://www.retrogamer.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5907

bippym

14 July 2007, 19:48

Posted a thread on Retro Gamer, hope this is okay...

http://www.retrogamer.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5907

Yep that is cool :)

Though you don't need to put my name in, this is a community project ;)

Anyway moving swiftly on.. we need a name :)

So far suggestions include

DAM (DVD Amiga Mag)
A.D.M (Amiga Dvd Mag)

There are others but let's get this right.. suggest away and i'll do a poll :)

Dizzy

14 July 2007, 19:56

EAD - English Amiga DVD ;)

turrican3

14 July 2007, 20:09

It's a really great idea.
Good luck i hope you will success:great

Zetr0

14 July 2007, 20:27

I got bored over din dins...

*urp.... mmm chicken....

Zetr0

14 July 2007, 20:48

and another one for the bipstah

Graham Humphrey

15 July 2007, 00:40

Good stuff Zetr0, they look very smart ;)

sarek2k

15 July 2007, 13:52

@bippym etc i'm up for helping with graphics (logo's) etc

you guys in irc now??? 12:52 local time!

bippym

15 July 2007, 14:01

Sorry sarek.. just trying to get my head around that bit of coding :)

Wew should all meet later to chat, and ypu are more than welcome to come aboard :D

Graham Humphrey

15 July 2007, 14:05

What time do you roughly plan on meeting Bippy, so I know when to be on?

Zetr0

15 July 2007, 14:13

me too (now going out shopping with the missues unfortuantely no impromtue for me :( )

sarek2k

15 July 2007, 14:13

@bippy i forgot to do the /join bit ;)

Silly me! Anyway i like DAM as a name but would prefer the emphasis on AMIGA rather than DVD!

so for me ADM sounds good with or without full stops

bippym

15 July 2007, 14:21

well I like AmyZine ;)

sarek2k

15 July 2007, 14:28

thats good too get a general consensus and the throw up a vote like you said!

i'm sure a few more names will be thrown in from other adventurous E.A.B'er's

@Zetro like the logo's m8 some good ideas in those i'll have a play after with good old xara

Zetr0

15 July 2007, 15:38

Sweet, i look forw3ard to seeing them... there just drafts anyway... if you want the PSP's i will be back later i will zone 'em or something lol

bippym

16 July 2007, 21:41

http://www.rgcd.co.uk/

Someone on lemon sent me this link.. for some advice, tips etc in doing something similar :D

Zetr0

17 July 2007, 01:49

I like the look, its very professional looking and certainly a look and format that would work in part for this project my friend.

However it doesn`t have that DVD part, that I think really would GIVE that EDGE. you know think of a 30's somthing, got his PS2 / PS3 but reminices the days of yorn. not anymore he can pop in a DVD and enjoy flavours of retro moments past, new ideas, scenes and communities, demos and even games leauge action.

my friends, theres a lot more than just games that will fill this project.

imagine for a moment, browsing on a 42" plasma a cool mod with pictorials or watching how THAT LEVEL was done... lots more.

and we wont need to beg for donations as the linkie does... after all its for the community, by the community!

Zetr0

17 July 2007, 02:05

hmmm i really like the "Zine" (Zee-een) lol...

AmyZine (Ay-Me-Zee-een) sounds cool :)

DamienD

22 July 2007, 00:52

DAM (DVD Amiga Mag)

Anyway i like DAM as a name but would prefer the emphasis on AMIGA rather than DVD!
Not sure why but I seem to like the name DAM as well :cheese

No, in all seriousness this sound like a very cool project... Just wish I had time to contribute in some way :agree

Rebel-CD32

27 July 2007, 20:28

This is an awesome idea, you should show previews of upcoming games too.

There was a show I used to love watching on weekends when I was younger, it was called The Zone, and was an Australian show about video games. They'd review new games and hardware, offer tips, hunts, and all that. The guys were on the screen as well, which I think would really help if anyone out there isn't camera shy. Maybe even filming an Amiga graphic artist or musician or someone, they can talk about how they make their work, show the tools they use, film the screen as they use their Amiga and stuff.

If anyone can submit stuff for approval to go on the DVD, I'm sure a lot of people out there have something they'd like to offer, be it film, an animation they made on the Amiga, a scene demo, a game walkthrough or whatever.

The one thing I really must stress, can someone make subtitles for all the speech in the DVD so hearing impaired and deaf people can watch it too? This also might help for non-English speaking people if someone wants to translate, as I'm sure there are a lot of European Amiga users out there who'd love this too, not to mention my deaf girlfriend who told me about this in the first place.

Here's a YouTube video I found of "The Zone" to give you an example for some ideas. I don't know if the video is any good yet, I'm on dialup and it won't be finished loading for a while.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fraz4OhNh48

Heavy Stylus

31 July 2007, 15:56

http://www.rgcd.co.uk/

Someone on lemon sent me this link.. for some advice, tips etc in doing something similar :D

Hey - don't bite my style! ;)

In all seriousness, I think this is a very interesting idea. However, don't underestimate the amount of work this DVD project will involve. As editor and writer for RGCD I spend at least 15+ hours a week working on the mag, most of which is taken up by dull editor-admin tasks such as emailing developers, arranging interviews, updating the website and cutting and pasting loads of HTML, sorting graphics and all that crap. Writing articles/content actually only makes up about 25% of the work that goes into each issue.

The fact that the RGCD team is now growing larger every month (over ten people now) doesn't actually help to cut down the time I put in - it just means more admin and chasing articles up! It takes a LOT of dedication to get something like this off the ground, and even more to keep it going. So be prepared for that.

From my experience, when starting a project like this up there are always loads of people wanting to help at the outset - it sound like a fun project and people will jump on the bandwagon for the kudos. However, when it actually comes to doing work, the emails dry up... Potential contributors often bite off more than they can chew, and instead of letting me know that real life has got in the way, they just disappear - leaving me waiting for articles that will (usually) never be submitted, and as a result I'm unable to pass the assignment on to anyone else. This can be really frustrating for the editor/leader of the project, as you can imagine!

RGCD #03 is due for release at Retro North in late august (www.retronorth.co.uk), so hopefully I'll see some of you there. If anyone has any Amiga projects they want featured in the mag let me know - likewise, when your DVD is ready drop me a mail so I can promote it through RGCD - we're getting a LOT of hits nowadays (100's of GB of traffic), so it should help promote your work.

Oh, and I don't particularly appreciate the comments about 'begging' for donations. Considering that I mail out physical (professionally printed and presented) CD copies to everyone whose work is featured in each issue for free (40+ posted worldwide), and I had to pay a developer for the initial HTML templates *and* of course there's the monthly webspace hosting fee, don't imagine for one second that I'm actually making any money out of this. In fact, the donation button was only added because people were emailing me asking if they could financially contribute.

Anyway, I wish you all the best of luck with this - and please let me know when it's out!

James Monkman / H. Stylus (www.rgcd.co.uk)

Heavy Stylus

28 August 2007, 12:36

On a related note, RGCD #03 is finished - and features a review of Ultra Violent Worlds.

James Monkman / H. Stylus (www.rgcd.co.uk)

Graham Humphrey

28 August 2007, 18:55

I wonder who wrote that one hey ;)

And you should post that in the news section :D

ppill

28 August 2007, 20:16

I wonder who wrote that one hey ;)

And you should post that in the news section :D

Again a nice read. It's just too bad that the games you end up reviewing are cack... better luck next time eh?

samklein

28 August 2007, 20:17

Graham Humphrey

29 August 2007, 00:02

Again a nice read. It's just too bad that the games you end up reviewing are cack... better luck next time eh?

Thanks! And as for constantly reviewing naff games, I think they're all trying to tell me something...

Gavilan

04 September 2007, 19:51

This is an awesome idea, you should show previews of upcoming games too.

The one thing I really must stress, can someone make subtitles for all the speech in the DVD so hearing impaired and deaf people can watch it too? This also might help for non-English speaking people if someone wants to translate, as I'm sure there are a lot of European Amiga users out there who'd love this too, not to mention my deaf girlfriend who told me about this in the first place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fraz4OhNh48

I would be MORE than happy in translating the speech in spanish for all spanish Amiga users (well not that many but..not all of them knows english...

:)

Cammy

15 October 2007, 10:08

Hey there,

I'd love to contribute to this Amiga Magazine DVD. I'd love to do reviews but since I'm deaf and I'm not sure whether this DVD will be fully voiced or there will be scrolling text for the reviews and other written things.

This seems like a good idea, I'd love to help get it off the ground soon!

Rebel-CD32

21 January 2008, 19:45

Has everyone lost interest in this project?

Zetr0

21 January 2008, 19:51

I hope not, it has a lot of potential.

I think at the moment it just need some enthusiasm for the fuel tank :)

Graham Humphrey

21 January 2008, 20:08

It also needs some spare time ;)

Zetr0

21 January 2008, 20:18

I tihnk it would be great to get a discussion on the format for the DVD, ie what sections etc. and then we can look at some contributions.

we can settle on a stlye once we have content me thinks. so whom wants to start the ball rolling...

lets look at catagories / sections.

Zetr0

21 January 2008, 20:28

we can pick a simple number like 8 to begin with.... why 8... well its a nice number that when on its side looks like boobies :D

so heres some fire ideas.

DVD Sections

Game

Long Play's
Interviews
Reviews

Demo

Vids
Interviews
Reviews

Tutorials

3d Graphics / Rendering
Programing
Music Chip and MOD

Hardware

Members Gallery
How To....
Reviews

Scene

Whats New / Hot
Competition ? (Games League)
The Market (price guide or somink)

Developement

Amiga Games Factory
EAB Projects
etc...

there that should wet some ideas

bippym

22 January 2008, 04:58

ooh ooh ooh a Bippy project that is leaving him behind :p

I will find time for this but right now i am doing some asm with Horace ;) maybe make a tutorial out of it if we can get it working... :)

Greyfox

12 August 2010, 19:27

I am at the moment, pulling some visual graphics together , than might compliment this idea to resurface , will showcase something real soon..maybe 2moro..if not than tonite ;)

Grey.

Greyfox

12 August 2010, 23:01

Okay..i've been a busy bunny..and fun this..being an introductory to the work I do, I've created what could be used as a front end for this DVD-zine project..if resurrected by the members here, so I hope I've given you a shot in the arm to get off your butts and get serious about this again, I think some of the idea for this project are great, but some are a little ambitious and in reality even 20th Fox couldn't pull it off, even on blueray :)

so what you are about to see, is an idea for the project and hopefully some direction, I've when for the ambient low-key style,as I'm sick of seeing flash this, and flash that, the Amiga was and is a claim machine, so no need for silly colour rolls ;)

I've uploaded the video to you-tube for all to see, and if you have time, please check out my channel, it has some nice stuff up there, and yes..I do love Atari too, so please don't flame for it...enjoy this W.I.P. and all feedback is welcome

take care.

see the spectacular here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRYJUsNVZEg

Greyfox™

kriz

12 August 2010, 23:24

Nice to see it progressing ;)

Greyfox

12 August 2010, 23:27

Nice to see it progressing ;)

I've no idea what the status is with this project..I'm a newbie here, so hopefully, it will heat up again..thanx for the interest ;)

Zetr0

12 August 2010, 23:40

@Greyfox

OMG!!!! AWESOME just doens't cover it!!!!

although I am a little pressed with fixing hardware lately, i do get lul moments - i.e. when its too hot in my office, so if there is ANYWAY i can help, please let me know =)

Greyfox

13 August 2010, 11:55

thanx for your feedback ZetrO, I have all animations here at pal 4:3 standard for DVD authoring if everyone is happy with what I'v created so far, but I would need to create Background animations for the sections of the DVD-zine sub menu, Magazine reviews, Demo scene section, Coders Area or what section would be present.

regarding my idea for the DVD-zine, if users here when reviewing a game or whatever, have them as static Images on the DVD with the option to goto the next page etc. and also include game-play video maybe boxed in on the last page of the review, I could create a plate graphic with place holders for screen shots and an area for there text insertion, sorta like the Euro-chart disc-zine, I feel that would be more in tune with us Amigians

I'll make a mock-up for a game review and post it here. it will give the Idea for a dvd-zine review, I can't see this project being too difficult to make, the long part is writing the reviews, spell-checking etc..so you'll all need a review editor to carry out this task.

Grey.

Greyfox

13 August 2010, 13:50

here is my envision of a DVD video Game review would look like, as stated in the previous post, actual video game play would appear at the last page of the game review..so please let me know some feedback on this..so I'm heading in the right direction cheers ;)

Greyfox™

DVD game review preview

http://i36.tinypic.com/2dqptna.png

Graham Humphrey

13 August 2010, 15:36

That's extremely professional-looking. I like that a lot.

Zetr0

13 August 2010, 15:44

@GreyFox

Epic SKILLS!!!!!

some one better wake up Bipps!

Greyfox

13 August 2010, 15:46

That's extremely professional-looking. I like that a lot.

Tx m8, have you watched the YouTube vid above? All this was relatively put together quite fast, so skinning the DVD wouldn't take to long or hard to produce, so maybe start collecting articles or pieces of info, so I can make a proper layout for each section that will be on the end DVD, I can be contacted on MSN if you discuss this project further

All the best

Grey.

p.s. somebody wake Bipps up :help

Graham Humphrey

14 August 2010, 09:05

(Sorry, forgot to reply to this...)

Yes, I watched your vid as well - I think that would suit the DVD extremely well. Be interesting if Bippy takes notice ;)

bippym

14 August 2010, 10:16

Bippy has been taking notice.. LOTS of notice ;)

Extremely nice work Greyfox, i'm impressed :D

More later guys........

bippym

14 August 2010, 18:53

Greyfox

15 August 2010, 00:06

This is at DVD resolution , but not in the previews here they are set at pal 4:3 standard, I created these before for use on DVD galleries I created for cilents etc, allnthe gfx are well within the safe frame I'll post the originals in bit, and thanx for the feedback ;)

All the best

Grey

Greyfox

16 August 2010, 13:01

just a quick note..is this project going ahead, I've had no real feedback on it's status, or being contacted yet..regarding what is needed or to be done?, so if someone on the project could let me know..what has been done etc..

cheers

Grey.

bippym

17 August 2010, 00:59

This project hit a stalemate long ago. There are too many reasons to explain. I would love to have the time to work on this, but unfortunately I don't.

If there is enough interest, and enough members to make it viable, then I'd love to attempt to make a good go of it..

Who is in?

Zetr0

17 August 2010, 02:56

@bipps

I can give you a couple of hours dedicated a week, what do you need?

Greyfox

17 August 2010, 12:23

well..I'm game!...I think what is needed is the articles listings first..as I can create gfx around those, a final low down of what actually going to be listed on the DVD, so I can create background plates for them, will the DVD be dual-layered, single layered etc...and who's going to take up the DVD authoring aspect, allot work in that alone.

also what time is required for animated backgrounds with music? will there be easter eggs? etc.. as worked in DVD creation, I know what's involved and if members are committed and have articles etc..I can do all the artwork in a very short space of time, resulting really in the DVD authoring , uploading etc...taking the most time..I would to have this before xmas 2010, and I Know it can be done..

Grey.

Greyfox

25 August 2010, 13:42

a quick bump!, I take it this isn't gonna happen? a real shame, I was geared to giving it full swing at getting it produced :(, I may approach the APOV team..see if there interested, rather than doing PDF's , they/we could make it a 6 montly production, allowing video reviews, demo reviews , maybe even a podcast on the DVD too..

as what Silents DK used to say.. "when Words are not enough!"

Grey.

Zetr0

26 August 2010, 03:00

roberthazelby

03 November 2010, 14:44

Just spotted this thread...

Greyfox, you are one talented individual. There's some amazing stuff there.

I'd be interested in helping get this off the ground. I don't have masses of time, but am willing to contribute in some way, shape or form.

I would suggest that rather than quarterly releases we go for every 6 months. That's more than enough work!

Just a thought for one nice piece of content to go in issue one - I have kicking around on my Mac at home a really lovely Wizball/Amiga commemoration animation (you guys probably know what the name of this is). The author says that he's produced a higher quality version of it. Perhaps we could see if the author is willing to let us make it available? It'd certainly be ideal content for the DVD.

Other content - See if we can get a high quality version of that last day at the commodore factory (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRI7hHwiRxk) and as well as that, get an interview with the guy who filmed it.

Just a few suggestions.

Greyfox

04 November 2010, 10:54

I really appreciate your Interest Robert and thanks for your nice comments :) , but I don't think anyone here has the time ,as there is allot of work to produce this , I was willing to commit, but I can't handle everything on my own, would need at least 10+ members doing stuff..I work in digital imagery and video, but the amount of DVD authoring etc.. reviews, video reviews require 100% dedication , I just don't have..but a Proof reader would be required to proof read the reviews, spelling, grammer etc.. and then a person who know and is able to professional dvd authoring to put it all together, no problems doing the graphics, intro etc.. but it's a terrible shame this has had it's back turned on..I guess the other thing to look forward too is the VIVA Amiga project : http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=55322

hopefully this will motivate members or persons into doing something professional for the amiga scene, I for one lie in wait for that day :)