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Muzkat
19 December 2001, 02:35
I'm just wondering if any of you guys are using download managers when downloading stuff from PE2000 net?

I've tried many times to download using Download Accelerator Plus from the site, and it won't let me:(

Thanx.

PS: I posted this here just in case any newbies were also having this problem. Feel free to move this thread if you wish.:)

oldpx
19 December 2001, 03:07
You can use download managers as long as you know the trick (http://www.pe2000.net/romdl/Commodore%20Amiga/renamed/)

Jim
20 December 2001, 02:44
Getright is getting a bit crazy when I try to download them all !!!

I changed the max downloads to 10,000 which wasn't a very good idea !! System was running like a PC emulating a Amiga that was emulating a PC that was emulating a Amiga that was emulating a very slow PC ! (you get the idea!).

I find the best thing to do is use the Getright browser on the folder and choose roughly 500 at a time. Plonk them into the Getright download window and then save the Getright donwload list to a file (choose export list from the options). Then clear the download list. Repeat this process until all files have been added into lists.

You'll soon build up a few list's each of 500 games in alphabetical order. Then you can either download all lists in turn or just a selection of games from each one.

I'm on broadband so I am grabbing the whole lot for later viewing !:cheese

oldpx
20 December 2001, 03:04
Getright can't handle that much load. It's default filelist size is maximum 500 files at the same time. I used flashget to get the links on that page. I think others did the same.

TikTok
20 December 2001, 03:23
I find the best thing to do is use the Getright browser on the folder and choose roughly 500 at a time. Plonk them into the Getright download window and then save the Getright donwload list to a file (choose export list from the options). Then clear the download list. Repeat this process until all files have been added into lists.
Oh no, please tell me you are joking. I always kinda thought Getrights browser didnt have much purpose, even when I hand clicked every one of PE2000's many, many links :eek :eek :eek. Damn, must read the docs next time :rolleyes.

Oh well, at least with doing it by hand, you can check which files you already have and save time by not downloading dupes. Yeah, I bet I saved a load of time over you guys by clicking on each link manually ;). :scream

Jim
20 December 2001, 03:29
RTFM !!! LOL :laughing


To a serious point.....

The thing I don't get (and I notice it everywhere) is why do they have each disk as a zip ?

Surely if you were going to download a game you'd want all the disks ?

I know in the old days it was best to keep files small in case they screwed up on the transfer, but these days with download managers surely the disks can all be grouped into one file ?

Please - someone correct me if I've made a flaw in my plan !


P.S. I know you could argue a Amiga-user could be downloading them, but I'd imagine you'd need a hard disk (or really need one) to use the net on a Amiga ? Therefore you'd already have storage capacity of >880kb ?

TikTok
20 December 2001, 03:42
I would say one of two things: either bandwidth, or hassle. Perhaps noone could be bothered to produce a little script to archive all relevant disks together. But I think that the most likely cause is to save bandwidth. Multiple ADF archives get very big pretty quickly. Remember that the "official" link to PE2000 only allows you to download files after going through a Java pop-up, "do you really own this game" style presentation, designed to reduce bandwidth by limiting leechers.

oldpx
20 December 2001, 07:04
Since Tosec recognizes the disks individually, there may be multiple variants of a single disk of the same game and if some game doesn't work because of the problem with one of the disks, people tend to find an alternative version of the disk.

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I usually select all the links on the page and paste them in flashget, or save the page and process it from within flashget or use getright/flashget browser to get the links off a web page. Most of the time some of the methods above fail but one always works.

Muzkat
22 December 2001, 14:06
Hehehehe....

I can see where you are going with your "trick", Burseg, but unfortunately my download manager isn't getting a reply from your back door entrance to PE2000 net.

Any suggestions?

Thanx

Jim
22 December 2001, 14:30
It takes a while to load the file list on broadband.

Maybe your download manager is timing out ?

I know in Getright you can change the timeout-configs, but I'm not sure if this applies to when it's browsing a website ?

Try a few things with these timeout settings first, and if you're not using Getright try that.

If you have no futher luck give me a shout and I'll post a Getright download list which you can just import into Getright and hit run.

oldpx
22 December 2001, 14:32
What's your manager Muzkat? I've already said what could be done :rolleyes

Ian
22 December 2001, 14:34
Originally posted by Muzkat
Any suggestions?
Use FlashGet (http://www.flashget.com), if you download FlashGet (http://www.flashget.com), I'll upload a download list for FlashGet (http://www.flashget.com) if you like;)

This post paid for by the kind people at FlashGet (http://www.flashget.com)


Update:- Well,, I've done my bit (In the Zone if you want it:)), now all you've got to do is download .....

FlashGet (http://www.flashget.com)

Sorry for the shameless plug, but I really do think everyone will be better off with FlashGet (http://www.flashget.com), than Getright.

oldpx
22 December 2001, 14:39
:D
Now everyone, let's sing the flashget song.

Jim
22 December 2001, 14:42
What would be really clever is if someone could post a download list to download every (most) TOSEC games, and rename them all automatically to the TOSEC standard !!!

I thought about it, but then gave up !

It's definitely worth sorting out the PE2000 collection once you've downloaded it - I'm using RomCenter which is a breeze.

I didn't know about this a few days ago and was wondering how I was gonna sort the collection ! Shame they haven't done it on the server - but you can't complain !

andreas
22 December 2001, 22:22
Hey people, stop thinking about leeching the full PE2000 set! That's INSANE! :disgusted
I promise you this:
If everybody of you leeches the FULL TOSEC set, this site will most likely be forced to CLOSE DOWN FOREVER! That's serious. I hope that you know how much money it costs if the bandwidth usage breaks all bounds!! The hoster will have a HUGE bill at the webmasters and they will say "Sorry, can't pay THAT!"
YES, this is a post that also expresses some sort of c o m p a s s i o n for these non-wealthy guys offering you a service at no cost.
And everybody will be very very happy if nobody can make use of PE2000 anymore because of you mass-downloaders.
Thumbs down for this undescribable insanity! :thumbs_do :kill

And a word to you, Ian: I've always been thinking that you're a reasonable person, perhaps a little more reasonable than your age might suggest. And I just see you post a flashget list to The Zone to even support this insanity.
C'mon people, wake up, please!

oldpx
22 December 2001, 22:29
You are too late andreas for this link had been on eab before. twice. and the first one was months ago. so if their bandwidth is so valuable -sure it is- they should have set up better security. As I myself found this link and made use of it, I decide to share it to anyone who is in need of it.

andreas
22 December 2001, 22:31
Of course I know that, Burseg.
But I just wanted to appeal to people's common sense again.
It's never too late for that. :nervous

oldpx
22 December 2001, 22:34
What you say is logical, no one wants pe2000 to go down but we are responsible of our own actions, after your statement I think people will think about downloading stuff they will never use but we're trying to solve a problem here, which is the unability to use download managers on pe2000 net. I think it's pretty much solved and this thread haven't gone anywhere it should not.

Twistin'Ghost
23 December 2001, 16:40
Not only that, but PE2000 hosts files for quite a lot of different platforms if you use the 'front door', so I would imagine the Amiga files are just a tiny fraction of the overall hits that site takes. And surely there are others doing the same FlashGet bit with the other non-Amiga files, as well. So proper netiquette from the Amiga crowd would probably have precious little impact on the overall picture at PE2000.

andreas
23 December 2001, 19:16
Well well, we in Germany say:
"Kleinvieh macht auch Mist."
In English: Many a little makes a mickle.