Slave for WorkBench

[Boo Boo]

Hi can anyone tell me if a slave for a AmigaDos Environment can be written for excample Workbench or Dpaint

[bippym]

I suppose it could for programs like DPaint or apps that kill the system (These would be better)

As for Workbench err... Why?

[Boo Boo]

Sound a bit Crazzy?
Curious - Do think it could be done?

different kick roms running Workbenchs bit like an Emulator

[bippym]

I suppose it could be done, a WHD guy would need to give more details. Though I really CAN'T see kick 1.3 etc running >kickstart and anyway all you'd need to do is softkick a laeter KS into memory (That's all WHD would most likely do!)

[Wepl]

That is no problem.
I have running Workbench 1.2, 1.3 and 3.1 under WHDLoad. Mainly for testing.
Sometimes it may useful to try software there without danger to the own system.

There are generic slave sources in the developer archive of WHDLoad. Anybody which can use a Assembler should be able to build a slave for that.

Workbench installation is a simple copy of the disks to the install directory.
Some commands may cause access faults (e.g. setpatch, setclock,...) these must be disabled in the startup-sequence.

It was also planned to make a install package for that. But not finished due lack of time. I have a nearly ready install package for WB13.
And also I feared to get too much requests because of that, concerning app xy will not run under this.

[keropi]

wow. whdload never stops to amaze me!

[Frog]

That's a good news. I request that since a long time :) At least a fast kick13 emulator on amiga !!

[bippym]

Id love to see slaves for old software that is not legally programmed. EG Protrackers etc

[ppill]

Id love to see slaves for old software that is not legally programmed. EG Protrackers etc

Here here!

[Boo Boo]

That is no problem.
I have running Workbench 1.2, 1.3 and 3.1 under WHDLoad. Mainly for testing.
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That is very interesting Id love a copy of those slaves could you put a copy in The Zone to play about with?

[Wepl]

i have uploaded whdload-wb.lha to the zone
just try, disk names may differ...

[Shoonay]

wow. whdload never stops to amaze me!

Ditto :great

WOW :shocked

Wepl, you're an Amiga ninja wizard! :great



Tho...

:bash <--- that's for keeping it for yourself all this year :p

[Boo Boo]

:) Thank You Wepl just tryed 1.3 and this is very CooL






Happy Xmas

[cooldude]

Excellent! Great for old OS friendly games without an install (YET).

Regging WHDLoad is the best value for money ever :cheese

A huge :xmas to all the team and everyone who loves the miggy.

Cheers to all

[killergorilla]

This is very interesting!

I presume the wb 1.3 install utitlises kickemu to load with a 1.3 kickstart image?

[Wepl]

I presume the wb 1.3 install utitlises kickemu to load with a 1.3 kickstart image?
correct, they use the respective kickemu (1.2/1.3/3.1)

[killergorilla]

Impressive, I shall definitely be taking a look at these then.

Nice work sir.

[Boo Boo]

KillerGorilla Ive been Playing about and croak seems to work but it runs a bit fast on my 030 any ideas on slowing it down?

[killergorilla]

Yeah, nag Girv until he releases the WHDLoad version ;)

No seriously though, not really sure to be honest, I only ever ran it on a standard A1200, not tried it on my 030 either!

[mrodfr]

hello,

I would like to test the workbench slave but I don't have workbench1.2 or 1.3 :( I have 2.1-3.0-3.5-3.9 original diskd but not the old workbench disks.

I don't imagine I need this old disks one day :) If someone know where to found, please give me a link (or put in the zone the installed version).

[Boo Boo]

In the Zone - Happy Xmas

The Wb1.2 Slave run from a disk Image

O If i want to Compile the source of the Salve what would be the best TooL?

[mrodfr]

hello,

Thanks a lot Boo Boo, I have just downloaded the archive.

[Marcuz]

these files are not allowed here! please delete them from the zone (i cannot do it myself)
http://eab.abime.net/faq.php?faq=eab_rules#faq_ks_wb_faqitem

[Anubis]

Thank you Wepl! :)

Great work! :)

[Marcuz]

i'm just having a mean idea.
many of you use premade packages as ClassicWB and Amgasys and others. you may have experienced the fatigue of reinstall much software and operate finetuning or customizing for to make a personalized setup of the WB any time a new release gets out. i know i do! ( and i cannot thank enough the good explainations by Paul in the gaqs/guides )

but what if the main programs one may want install, like music onea, graphic ones (PPaint, Brilliance, Deluxe Paint etc.) or the Office like programs, such the spreadsheets one that Anubis requested elsewhere would be in WHDload instals? one could forget any installation problem, dependencies and moreover he could move them easiy from one release to the next of his own favourite Base Package!
what do you guys think ?

[d0pefish]

Can someone reupload whdload-wb.lha ?

Looks like I missed it :( :(

Thanks!

[Frog]

installing amiga software is not like Windows soft.... you can easily install all amiga software by hand, copy stuff in libs/fonts/etc... so it's easy to add them in the whdload kick3.1 stuff. As mentionned, just copy additional stuff in data dir.
Or simply copy the lha package in the data dir and then follow the install script.... i may have misunderstood something from Marco thread.

[Marcuz]

no indeed it is different from windows, somehow better somehow worse. the point of having the software running in a virtual environment as WHDload are:
1) you don't have to touch your startup-sequence and so, other than save the time of tinker it, you avoid any inconsistency/incompatibility of commands;
2) you don't touch the dependencies, devs, libs, etc and so you avoid the versions problems of the different libraries for instance when software requires a different lib based on the processor it is running on, that in winuae may differ based on the will of the moment.
3) you have always a vanilla OS, you may also update it faster in case of relatively frequently updated ones such Amikit, AmigaSys, Aiab, ClassicWB, AmigaOS etc.
4) in winuae, you can run the programs from a virtual hard disk other than your main one, maybe in a virtual directory so that if the whdload slave is the open kind (the one that allows uses it too a virtual directory as amiga disk), you can manage files inside it on the fly. for instance you are working on a picture with PPaint and still open it from Windows, no matter you are working with whdload.
this way, at least, it is less likely you'll break your HDF, thing that while more rare now than before to me happened a bunch of times already.

[d0pefish]

*bump*

Can someone reupload whdload-wb.lha? :crazy

Cheers! :cheese

[Anubis]

d0pefish,

did you see this post:

these files are not allowed here! please delete them from the zone (i cannot do it myself)
http://eab.abime.net/faq.php?faq=eab_rules#faq_ks_wb_faqitem

It can't be re-uploaded due to copy righted material.

Sorry...:(

[Marcuz]

just to clarify: the whdload installer CAN be shared i guess Dopefish means that, what are NOT to be shared (and i was referring to that) are the actual Workbench disks images

[bippym]

Slave in the zone

[d0pefish]

Slave in the zone

Excellent, thankyou bippym! :)

And yes, it was these (legal) slaves I wanted, not the actual Workbench disks. I legally own those anyway. :)

Thanks for the upload, I've been looking for something like this for a while after failed attempts at assembling it from source. :)

[fisken uno]

Would it be possible to use Whdload to load Wb 1.3 on a CD32, along with Joymouse? The slave I grabbed seemed to require 0.5MB Chipmem and 1MB Othermem...

[Wepl]

the wb13 slave should also run on CD³² without problems, the memory requirements can easily adpated be reassembling.
I dont know if joymouse is running under 1.3

[Boo Boo]

Is it possible for a full degrader Slave to emulate processors -68000,68020 as well to run apps that require certain processors?