Amiga Discs not in Tosec

[hitm4n]

Back in the day i had a 5000+ Amiga disc collection. Since the move to PC and relegation of the Amiga to the wardrobe, i've since collected Tosec sets to replace my discs. Isn't WinUAE lovely :)

As the Tosec has grown, i've split my disc collection into 2 parts. Those that are now in the Tosec and those that aren't.

About 1 year back i gave away 98% of my old disc collection to some lucky young kid (yes, i GAVE them all away) but i am still left with around 50 discs that are still not in a TOSEC.

What should i do ??

I could provide a list of what i have. I could transfer them (if i knew how) and provide for inclusion. I do have a working Amiga1200 with CDRom drive (not a writer), 030 accelerator, a bit of extra mem and 400mb harddrive.

I'll prepare a list. I guess thats a good first step, then you guys can advise me on what to do.
Thanks.

[hitm4n]

The coverdisks
***********

CU Amiga - 113 - Clarissa 2.0
CU Amiga - 136 - XiPaint
CU Amiga - 142 - Upper Disk Tools
CU Amiga - 143 - Mikro Mortal Tennis

Amiga Format - 78a - Snap Maps
Amiga Format - 78b - Blitz Bombers
Amiga Format - 83a - Scape Maker
Amiga Format - 84a - Game Engine

Amiga Computing - October 1994 - 3D Textures
Amiga Computing - February 1995 - Anim Workshop
Amiga Computing - January 1997 - Utilities Unleashed
Amiga Computing - March 1997 - Tool-Ey Unbelievable

Amiga Action - Christmas 1995 - Disk 2 - The Winning Post
Amiga Action - May 1996 - Disk 1 - Charlie Chimp Remix
Amiga Action - May 1996 - Disk 2 - Saturday Night Snooker
Amiga Action - May 1996 - Disk 3 - Munch

The dodgy stuff
************

Logic's Book Of Forbidden Knowledge - Adult only
Jolly Roger's Cookbook - Adult only
Stag - Buk Stag 1-7 - Adult only
The Fuxkstones - Adult only

The demos
********

X.T.C. Rave Demo
Digital Force Music Selector
Silents Demo - Expose - Disk 1
Silents Demo - Expose - Disk 2
Lemmin's Revenge Anim by Roddy McMillan - Disk 1
Lemmin's Revenge Anim by Roddy McMillan - Disk 2
Genesis Music Demo - CD Player
Computer World Demo - The Dinosaur Compi
Focused on Art - Anarchy and Vision Slideshow
Devil Star - Virtual Dreams - AGA - Polka Brothers Demo
Fanatix Megademo 8 - Amos Demos - Disk 1
Fanatix Megademo 8 - Amos Demos - Disk 2
L.S.D. Simply The Best No. 1
L.S.D. Simply The Best No. 2
L.S.D. Simply The Best No. 3
L.S.D. Simply The Best No. 4
L.S.D. Simply The Best No. 5
L.S.D. Simply The Best No. 6
L.S.D. Simply The Best No. 7
L.S.D. Simply The Best No. 8
L.S.D. Simply The Best No. 9
L.S.D. Simply The Best No. 10
L.S.D. Simply The Best No. 11
L.S.D. Simply The Best No. 37

The games
********

Imbrium
Moria v5.4
Pacman Worlds
Pinball Dreams - Unreleased Table
Pump Up The Volume
Quest For Galaxia
Schelober's Quest For A Babe - Disk 1
Schelober's Quest For A Babe - Disk 2
Schelober's Quest For A Babe - Disk 3
Schelober's Quest For A Babe - Disk 4
Gravity Power + Level Editor
Amiopoly
Billy The Burglar
Bratwurst AGA
Colossal Cave Adventure
Zut Alors 1 + 2 + Pool500

Feel free to correct me on any of these. Either their proper name, wether they are actually in a Tosec. Any of you keen to get your mitts on these ? And whats the best way to transfer to adf and onto the interwebb ??

Thanks.

[DamienD]

Hello hitm4n,

This sounds very interesting ;)


Pinball Dreams - Unreleased Table

What theme is the table?

[hitm4n]

When i said "onto the interwebb" i meant get it to the tosec team. I've contacted some Tosec people in the past and got 0 reply. Don't they want people to help them ????

[hitm4n]

Pinball dreams table is an oddity. After receiving this i've never heard mention of it anywhere. I think its an alternative version of the Ignition table or maybe stones and bones ? Honestly i can't rememeber and the 1200's packed away. I do know its just like the other dreams tables, works, and is a single standalone table.

[hitm4n]

Well, its not gonna be so easy for me. My mobo won't support 2 floppy drives, so Toni's ADFRead and Disk2FDI aren't an option. (Disk2FDI is not XP compatible anyway). I've lost my null modem cable which i have used in the past with Amiga2PC :(

I suppose theres the crossdos option, creating the ADF's on the Amiga, LHAing them and writing to a PC disk. Means dragging the 1200 out of retirement though. Sigh.

Hasn't anyone figured out how to step a pc floppy drive motor without requiring 2 drives yet ? Its really about time there was an Amiga disk reading utility out there that works with a single PC Floppy drive.

/rant

I'll try to sort the crossdos route out.

[Adderly]

When i said "onto the interwebb" i meant get it to the tosec team. I've contacted some Tosec people in the past and got 0 reply. Don't they want people to help them ????Here on EAB the Tosec Amiga team is very productive. We have some active renamers and the Amiga dat maintainer [idoru] is a Mod. This is the right place if you want to contribute disk. :)
I hope you find a way to make images of your disks. We would be happy to take care of them and they would be added to the dat! :agree

[gizmomelb]

hitm4n, the easiest way would be to drag out the A1200 and buy a PCMCIA to Compact Flash adaptor. You plug the PCMCIA CF adapter and a CF card into the A1200 and you can save the ADF images to the card. Pull the card out, plug it into the PC then upload away :)

Actually - there is an easier way - tee up with a local EAB'er and send them the disks and they do all the work.

[Kodoichi]

Buy a Catweasel controller to dump the disks and be amazed how it produces bluescreens and fatal errors, something I didn't have for ages on WinXP.

[hitm4n]

A PCMCIA card reader is a definite solution. But for doing only approx 65 disks and never to be used again is a bit of a waste of money. I will try to source one from work, maybe from a colleague. What are the prices like on these things, can diff cards read diff media types ? Would anyone be prepared to loan me one ?

I'd be interested if anyones in my area (Lincoln, UK) and fancies helping me out, maybe meeting up.

Once my remaining disks are dumped there will be a 1200 for sale. 030 accelerator, 2mb extra memory. Dual speed CDRom and 400mb (i think) harddrive fitted internally. CDRom was a home fitted job with extra power supply but works great. 2nd Floppy drive (working fine) and of course my last few disks. I can possibly find a few Amiga game originals too. But thats AFTER these disks are done. I'd hate to lose them. The only reason i still have my 1200 now is these last few disks...

well, i'll see what i can sort out at work. Thanks for the help.

[hitm4n]

Asked colleague and neither he nor work have one. It also raised the question, how do i plug the pcmcia card into my pc ?? I don't got no slottage for it :)

Now there is a null modem cable here at work, its a 9pin D at both ends one male one female. I have some serial gender benders too at home, so maybe that'll all work.

[DamienD]

Pinball dreams table is an oddity. After receiving this i've never heard mention of it anywhere. I think its an alternative version of the Ignition table or maybe stones and bones ? Honestly i can't rememeber and the 1200's packed away. I do know its just like the other dreams tables, works, and is a single standalone table.
Cheers for the info :great

[P-J]

Now there is a null modem cable here at work, its a 9pin D at both ends one male one female. I have some serial gender benders too at home, so maybe that'll all work.

You sure it's null modem? I can't think of a single reason why you would want two different connectors at each end. Sounds more like an extension cable to me mate, which would be straight wired.

A null-modem cable has some cross-wiring in it. Much like an ethernet crossover.

[hitm4n]

Its deffo a crossover cos he hacked it and wired it himself. It was for testing a swipe card machine which would only output its ip address settings thru null modem.

I think, seeing as i must drag the Amiga out, that i may as well use crossdos. I already have an ADF tool on the amiga so i can just dump the disks to adf, copy to pc floppies and load into pc. Shouldn't take long and it saves me having to sort out any extra hardware.

Hopefully i'll get to that one evening this week or Saturday. (most likely Saturday).

[Ultron]

I can't help to think how much work this all is for something that should be ubiquitily easy, and wonder how many people get turned off by the whole thing.

[hitm4n]

with the right kit and a little knowledge its a doddle. Its just if you have the right kit... ;)

Like i said earlier, its about time someone figured out how to read amiga disks. I understand that using 2 floppy drives allows the motors to be stepped in and out (or something) at the right times, but why not send timings and motor commands to the floppy driver and do the stepping via software ?? Come on... Think of the children !!!!!

[P-J]

I can't help to think how much work this all is for something that should be ubiquitily easy, and wonder how many people get turned off by the whole thing.

It's called Catweasel... :)

...but that costs money, and it's understandable that people don't want to shell out for this.

[Magno Boots]

Most of todays dual printer/scanners have a compact flash card slot (that's what I use).

[mr_0rga5m]

Most of todays dual printer/scanners have a compact flash card slot (that's what I use).


Yea but you need one with parallel too dont ya .. :confused

[hitm4n]

Another huge bump from me... So 3 years on, do we have a way to dump amiga floppies with a little more ease ?

I never did get round to dumping my 60 or so rare discs and i really want to do them and get them into a Tosec before the discs die (maybe they already have). I posted a list a long time ago but i do know that some did make it into tosecs.

Heres what i need to check on now.

The coverdisks
***********
CU Amiga - 113 - Clarissa 2.0
CU Amiga - 136 - XiPaint
CU Amiga - 142 - Upper Disk Tools
CU Amiga - 143 - Mikro Mortal Tennis
Amiga Format - 78a - Snap Maps
Amiga Format - 78b - Blitz Bombers
Amiga Format - 83a - Scape Maker
Amiga Format - 84a - Game Engine
Amiga Computing - October 1994 - 3D Textures
Amiga Computing - February 1995 - Anim Workshop
Amiga Computing - January 1997 - Utilities Unleashed
Amiga Computing - March 1997 - Tool-Ey Unbelievable
Amiga Action - Christmas 1995 - Disk 2 - The Winning Post
Amiga Action - May 1996 - Disk 1 - Charlie Chimp Remix
Amiga Action - May 1996 - Disk 2 - Saturday Night Snooker
Amiga Action - May 1996 - Disk 3 - Munch

The dodgy stuff
************
Logic's Book Of Forbidden Knowledge - Adult only
Jolly Roger's Cookbook - Adult only
Stag - Buk Stag 1-7 - Adult only
The Fuxkstones - Adult only

The demos
********
Digital Force Music Selector
Silents Demo - Expose - Disk 1
Silents Demo - Expose - Disk 2
Lemmin's Revenge Anim by Roddy McMillan - Disk 1
Lemmin's Revenge Anim by Roddy McMillan - Disk 2
Focused on Art - Anarchy and Vision Slideshow
Devil Star - Virtual Dreams - AGA - Polka Brothers Demo

The games
********
Imbrium
Pacman Worlds
Pinball Dreams - Unreleased Table
Quest For Galaxia
Gravity Power + Level Editor
Bratwurst AGA

I'll try to get one of those huge dats and manually check if any of these are listed.

[hitm4n]

Found 3 discs in tosecs (they're now in the bin) so this list is now what i think are needed. Anyone in UK, actively dumping, who's prepared to dump these for tosec and send me adf's back in return, and i'll send them along forthwith. 33 Discs.

The coverdisks
***********
CU Amiga - 113 - Clarissa 2.0
CU Amiga - 136 - XiPaint
CU Amiga - 142 - Upper Disk Tools
CU Amiga - 143 - Mikro Mortal Tennis
Amiga Format - 78a - Snap Maps
Amiga Format - 78b - Blitz Bombers
Amiga Format - 83a - Scape Maker
Amiga Format - 84a - Game Engine
Amiga Computing - October 1994 - 3D Textures
Amiga Computing - February 1995 - Anim Workshop
Amiga Computing - January 1997 - Utilities Unleashed
Amiga Computing - March 1997 - Tool-Ey Unbelievable
Amiga Action - Christmas 1995 - Disk 2 - The Winning Post
Amiga Action - May 1996 - Disk 1 - Charlie Chimp Remix
Amiga Action - May 1996 - Disk 2 - Saturday Night Snooker
Amiga Action - May 1996 - Disk 3 - Munch

The dodgy stuff
************
Stag - Buk Stag 1-7 - Adult only

The demos
********
Digital Force Music Selector
Lemmin's Revenge Anim by Roddy McMillan - Disk 1
Lemmin's Revenge Anim by Roddy McMillan - Disk 2
Focused on Art - Anarchy and Vision Slideshow
Devil Star - Virtual Dreams - AGA - Polka Brothers Demo

The games
********
Imbrium
Pacman Worlds
Pinball Dreams - Unreleased Table
Gravity Power + Level Editor
Bratwurst AGA

[TheCyberDruid]

And now the prowler countdown starts :D

[hitm4n]

not a snifter from anyone :(

[prowler]

Hi hitm4n,

I can image those disks for you. :)

I would prefer it if you send them down to me, as I'm very busy right now and will not be in the Lincoln area anytime soon.

PM me and we'll sort something out.

[hitm4n]

Ahhh, so the prowler comment meant someone actually called prowler. lol.
Do you have a reputation here prowler ? :)

I am prepared to send the discs, i don't need them returning so long as they will be dumped right away and the adf's made available to me. My main concern is that they end up in the Tosecs and not just handed round in this forum (although that can happen too of course).

[prowler]

Ahhh, so the prowler comment meant someone actually called prowler. lol.
Do you have a reputation here prowler ? :)

Well, I have been known to provide a disk imaging service service in the past. ;)

I am prepared to send the discs, i don't need them returning so long as they will be dumped right away and the adf's made available to me. My main concern is that they end up in the Tosecs and not just handed round in this forum (although that can happen too of course).

I can dump them as soon as I receive them and email you the images straightaway. You are quite welcome to have them back if you wish. I shall leave it to you to share the images as you see fit.

Incidentally, the Registered version of Disk2FDI can create ADF images from Amiga floppies with just one floppy disk drive, but you also require a two-wire connection between the parallel port and floppy drive cable.

I will PM you my address details if you wish to go ahead. I will require only your email address.

[davideo]

I wish I'd seen this thread sooner. I could have lent you the PCMIA and card or even done them for you - I'm only 30 miles down the road.

Dave :bowdown out and leaves it to prowler :great

Dave G :cool

[hitm4n]

I've packaged them up and will be posting them in approx 20 minutes from now to Prowler. You snooze you lose davideo :)

Prowler, my concern with these discs is simply that they are not lost. I can't find them in any Tosec so i'd just like to see them archived for people. Once we have ADF's of these they can go in the bin. Feel free to keep them, send them to a collector, whatever you decide is fine. I'm also fine with all the adf's going into the zone (if they are allowed etc), you can do this or i can, again i don't mind.

[prowler]

Prowler, my concern with these discs is simply that they are not lost. I can't find them in any Tosec so i'd just like to see them archived for people.

I share your concern, as will many other EAB members. I shall do my very best to get an authentic image from all the disks, even those you suspect have bad sectors.

Once we have ADF's of these they can go in the bin. Feel free to keep them, send them to a collector, whatever you decide is fine.

I never bin original disks.

I'm also fine with all the adf's going into the zone (if they are allowed etc), you can do this or i can, again i don't mind.

In that case, I won't need you email address. I'll upload them to the Zone instead. :spin

[hitm4n]

Sounds like a plan, zone is fine. I can confirm i did post them today, 2nd class only though. I guess tuesday/wednesday for delivery.

[prowler]

Thanks. I'll let you know when I receive them.

It may not matter that they were sent Second Class. Sometimes it seems that it's too much trouble to separate these from First Class Items, so they could well be here on Monday.

If they arrive in the early part of next week, I can start the work straightaway. I have commitments in the latter part of the week, so if any of the disks have problems, they may have to wait until the weekend. But it sounds like they'll be here before that.

I'll start uploading images one by one as they become ready.

[prowler]

I've uploaded an initial set of disk images to the Zone.

Each is assigned a name based on the disk's volume name, with the exception of the STAG set, The Winning Post and the Digital Force Music Selector, which are non-DOS disks.

The Pinball Dreams - Unreleased Table disk was missing. The disks marked '*' have read errors and will require a bit more work to get valid disk images. However, 29 of the 32 disks have imaged successfully at the first attempt!

The coverdisks
***********
CU Amiga - 113 - Clarissa 2.0 (CU_113.adf)
CU Amiga - 136 - XiPaint (CU_136.adf)
CU Amiga - 142 - Upper Disk Tools (UDT_1.01.adf)
CU Amiga - 143 - Mikro Mortal Tennis (MMTDemo.adf)
Amiga Format - 78a - Snap Maps (AF78a.adf)
Amiga Format - 78b - Blitz Bombers (AF78b.adf)
Amiga Format - 83a - Scape Maker (AF83a.adf)
Amiga Format - 84a - Game Engine (AF84a.adf)
Amiga Computing - October 1994 - 3D Textures (3DTextures.adf)
Amiga Computing - February 1995 - Anim Workshop (AWorks.adf)
Amiga Computing - January 1997 - Utilities Unleashed *
Amiga Computing - March 1997 - Tool-Ey Unbelievable *
Amiga Action - Christmas 1995 - Disk 2 - The Winning Post (The Winning Post.adf)
Amiga Action - May 1996 - Disk 1 - Charlie Chimp Remix (Charlie Chimp.adf)
Amiga Action - May 1996 - Disk 2 - Saturday Night Snooker (SNSnooker.adf)
Amiga Action - May 1996 - Disk 3 - Munch (Munch.adf)

The dodgy stuff
************
Stag - Buk Stag 1-7 - Adult only (STAG_1.adf-STAG_7.adf)

The demos
********
Digital Force Music Selector (D.F.M.S.adf)
Lemmin's Revenge Anim by Roddy McMillan - Disk 1 (R.P.M.MOVIES1.adf)
Lemmin's Revenge Anim by Roddy McMillan - Disk 2 *
Focused on Art - Anarchy and Vision Slideshow (DIGITAL - REALITY PACK21.adf)
Devil Star - Virtual Dreams - AGA - Polka Brothers Demo (Polka Brothers..adf) [sic]

The games
********
Imbrium (Imbrium.adf)
Pacman Worlds (PucmanWorlds.adf) [sic]
Pinball Dreams - Unreleased Table Disk Missing
Gravity Power + Level Editor (SQUINT-5.adf)
Bratwurst AGA (BRAT+WWN.adf)

[hitm4n]

Excellent work Prowler.

I didn't send the pinball dreams disc as i found it somewhere beforehand. Either in a tosec, the zone or the ftp. You may as well cross it off the list.

You may have noticed that i marked a couple of the Stag discs as having a bad sector. This caused corruption during playback of some animations although the discs would work fully. If you got no errors from the dumping process then maybe we've ended up with a fully working and complete stag set...

Many thanks.

[prowler]

Following another session, I now have another valid disk image to add to the set.

I have updated the Coverdisks 2.zip file in the Zone to include the Amiga Computing (March 1997) coverdisk image featuring Tool-Ey Unbelievable.

30 of the 32 disks have now been imaged successfully.

The updated status of all disk images in the collection is as follows:

The coverdisks
***********
CU Amiga - 113 - Clarissa 2.0 (CU_113.adf)
CU Amiga - 136 - XiPaint (CU_136.adf)
CU Amiga - 142 - Upper Disk Tools (UDT_1.01.adf)
CU Amiga - 143 - Mikro Mortal Tennis (MMTDemo.adf)
Amiga Format - 78a - Snap Maps (AF78a.adf)
Amiga Format - 78b - Blitz Bombers (AF78b.adf)
Amiga Format - 83a - Scape Maker (AF83a.adf)
Amiga Format - 84a - Game Engine (AF84a.adf)
Amiga Computing - October 1994 - 3D Textures (3DTextures.adf)
Amiga Computing - February 1995 - Anim Workshop (AWorks.adf)
Amiga Computing - January 1997 - Utilities Unleashed *
Amiga Computing - March 1997 - Tool-Ey Unbelievable (AC-110b.adf)
Amiga Action - Christmas 1995 - Disk 2 - The Winning Post (The Winning Post.adf)
Amiga Action - May 1996 - Disk 1 - Charlie Chimp Remix (Charlie Chimp.adf)
Amiga Action - May 1996 - Disk 2 - Saturday Night Snooker (SNSnooker.adf)
Amiga Action - May 1996 - Disk 3 - Munch (Munch.adf)

The dodgy stuff
************
Stag - Buk Stag 1-7 - Adult only (STAG_1.adf-STAG_7.adf)

The demos
********
Digital Force Music Selector (D.F.M.S.adf)
Lemmin's Revenge Anim by Roddy McMillan - Disk 1 (R.P.M.MOVIES1.adf)
Lemmin's Revenge Anim by Roddy McMillan - Disk 2 *
Focused on Art - Anarchy and Vision Slideshow (DIGITAL - REALITY PACK21.adf)
Devil Star - Virtual Dreams - AGA - Polka Brothers Demo (Polka Brothers..adf) [sic]

The games
********
Imbrium (Imbrium.adf)
Pacman Worlds (PucmanWorlds.adf) [sic]
Gravity Power + Level Editor (SQUINT-5.adf)
Bratwurst AGA (BRAT+WWN.adf)

The two disks marked '*' still have read errors. However, in this session I was able to salvage additional data from each of them.

[hitm4n]

keep chipping away and you'll have a Venus de Milo soon :)

[prowler]

There's still plenty of scope for that. All I have tried so far is Amiga Explorer and three external drives connected to an A1200.

[prowler]

Following a TSGui session on an A1200 using the internal floppy drive, I now have another valid disk image to add to the set.

I have again updated the Coverdisks 2.zip file in the Zone to include the Amiga Computing (January 1997) coverdisk image featuring Utilities Unleashed. This disk was particularly difficult as it is almost 100% filled with compressed data.

31 of the 32 disks have now been imaged successfully.

The updated status of all disk images in the collection is as follows:

The coverdisks
***********
CU Amiga - 113 - Clarissa 2.0 (CU_113.adf)
CU Amiga - 136 - XiPaint (CU_136.adf)
CU Amiga - 142 - Upper Disk Tools (UDT_1.01.adf)
CU Amiga - 143 - Mikro Mortal Tennis (MMTDemo.adf)
Amiga Format - 78a - Snap Maps (AF78a.adf)
Amiga Format - 78b - Blitz Bombers (AF78b.adf)
Amiga Format - 83a - Scape Maker (AF83a.adf)
Amiga Format - 84a - Game Engine (AF84a.adf)
Amiga Computing - October 1994 - 3D Textures (3DTextures.adf)
Amiga Computing - February 1995 - Anim Workshop (AWorks.adf)
Amiga Computing - January 1997 - Utilities Unleashed (AC-108c.adf
Amiga Computing - March 1997 - Tool-Ey Unbelievable (AC-110b.adf)
Amiga Action - Christmas 1995 - Disk 2 - The Winning Post (The Winning Post.adf)
Amiga Action - May 1996 - Disk 1 - Charlie Chimp Remix (Charlie Chimp.adf)
Amiga Action - May 1996 - Disk 2 - Saturday Night Snooker (SNSnooker.adf)
Amiga Action - May 1996 - Disk 3 - Munch (Munch.adf)

The dodgy stuff
************
Stag - Buk Stag 1-7 - Adult only (STAG_1.adf-STAG_7.adf)

The demos
********
Digital Force Music Selector (D.F.M.S.adf)
Lemmin's Revenge Anim by Roddy McMillan - Disk 1 (R.P.M.MOVIES1.adf)
Lemmin's Revenge Anim by Roddy McMillan - Disk 2 *
Focused on Art - Anarchy and Vision Slideshow (DIGITAL - REALITY PACK21.adf)
Devil Star - Virtual Dreams - AGA - Polka Brothers Demo (Polka Brothers..adf) [sic]

The games
********
Imbrium (Imbrium.adf)
Pacman Worlds (PucmanWorlds.adf) [sic]
Gravity Power + Level Editor (SQUINT-5.adf)
Bratwurst AGA (BRAT+WWN.adf)

The disk marked '*' still has a few bad sector checksums and at least one missing sector header. However, there is still hope, as this disk is only about half filled with data.

[hitm4n]

Great work.

Are you getting many probs with that 2nd lemmings disc ? Its probably well past its sell by date...

[prowler]

It's funny you should say that. I was going to ask you if you have another copy of it.

There seems to be an unrecoverable error in disk block 1036, which affects one of the sound files.

I've salvaged everything else except that block. I'm not sure yet if I can take this any further. It will depend on how much of the data in that block was salvaged...

I've not had time to check yet.

[hitm4n]

So are you saying you can salvage the entire disc, or at least all the files from the disc minus 1 sound file ? If so, can you see the size of the sound file and replace it with something of a similar size, just so the anim works. I wonder if the corrupt file is included within disc 1 too, as its a 2 part animation, maybe some sounds are re-used. Just ideas, i really don't know how you are ripping, wether the resultant rip is usable at all with a corrupt sector or not...

I'm really grateful for your efforts, i can live without 1 animation, as i recall it wasn't much good anyway :) 31 out of 32 is way better than i expected to be honest, with the discs being so old.

[prowler]

So are you saying you can salvage the entire disc, or at least all the files from the disc minus 1 sound file ? If so, can you see the size of the sound file and replace it with something of a similar size, just so the anim works. I wonder if the corrupt file is included within disc 1 too, as its a 2 part animation, maybe some sounds are re-used. Just ideas, i really don't know how you are ripping, wether the resultant rip is usable at all with a corrupt sector or not...

I'm really grateful for your efforts, i can live without 1 animation, as i recall it wasn't much good anyway :) 31 out of 32 is way better than i expected to be honest, with the discs being so old.

Yes, I have a disk image which is complete except for one block. It may be that the block is full of garbage, or maybe only one byte in the block has an error in one bit, or the true situation may be somewhere between the two. I have not checked it yet.

Also, I have recovered all the files from the disk, except for the damaged one which has also been salvaged, but is, well, damaged. ;)

If your suggestion that the file might be included on the first disk is correct, then tomorrow I may well have the final image to upload. :)

[hitm4n]

So it wasn't a silly suggestion then. I'll have my eyes peeled :)

[prowler]

I have some good news and some bad news.

:( Bad news first: The sound bounce file on Disk 2 of the Lemmin's Revenge Anim by Roddy McMillan is not completely recoverable. The file salvaged from the Disk using DiskSalv is 3682 bytes, whereas the file present on the disk image produced using TSGui is 4170 bytes. The difference in size is 488 bytes, i.e. there is one sector missing from the salvaged file (24 bytes of each 512-byte sector is the sector header containing checksum data, etc.). It is not clear (yet) which of the nine sectors in the file is missing, except that it is unlikely to be the last, which is only 266 bytes.
Meanwhile, the file on the disk image is 4170 bytes, with one sector replaced with whatever data was salvaged from the disk at that location and an approriate new header.
The really bad news is that the sound bounce file is not included on Disk 1.

:) Now the good news: I have found archives containing all the files which make up the animation on Aminet here:
http://aminet.net/search?query=AntiLemmin
The sound bounce file is contained in the AntiLemmin2.lzh archive, which contains the animation files from Disk 2 (although it is not a disk image). Even the time and date stamps are correct, but some of the files have slightly different names.
http://aminet.net/package/pix/eric/AntiLemmin2
It can be seen that the sound bounce file appears in the contents as bounce.sound.
The corresponding AntiLemmin1.lzh archive contains the animation files from Disk 1.
http://aminet.net/package/pix/eric/AntiLemmin1

A quick Google alerted me to the fact that these files were present on Aminet, and, having found them, I now have everything I need to rebuild the disk image! :great

[hitm4n]

excellent. gold star for prowler, top of the class. 32 out of 32 shortly then, who could ask for more :) cheers man, much appreciated, i hope others appreciate the new discs too and hope they end up in tosecs and peoples archives.

[prowler]

It's really no trouble. I enjoy a bit of floppy disk necromancy. :D

I am confident that I will have the final disk image to complete the set ready for uploading tomorrow. :)

[prowler]

Hmm... It seems that some other files didn't make it into the disk image either. Also, I'll have to check the Disk 1 image, because it looks like that's got a similar problem! :(

In the meantime, for you to enjoy while I'm fixing those images, I have uploaded Erik Schwartz's 1991 Anti-Lemmin Demo disks to the Zone. It requires the ECS chipset (WinUAE config: A500+). :)

[hitm4n]

Which by the way is far superior to the Roddy anim ;)

I made an anim once in Moviesetter... It was shit - lol :)

[prowler]

I have checked the Lemmin's Revenge Anim by Roddy McMillan - Disk 1 image (R.P.M.MOVIES1.adf), and it is a faithful copy of the disk. :)

I shall now return to the business of fixing the errors on Disk 2. There are two directories and eight files apparently missing in the disk image.

Although I have enough data to rebuild the disk image sufficiently to get the animation working, it may not necessarily end up as a genuine byte-for-byte copy of the original disk.

[hitm4n]

stay on target, stay on target...

[prowler]

Hi hitm4n,

I haven't forgotten this. :)

Quick update:

I've been beavering away since my last post here and, as a result, I now have an image of the disk with no checksum errors and only two missing files.

I managed to UnDelete the two missing directories and six of the missing files on my disk image and overwrite the corrupted copy of the sound bounce file with a good copy from the Anti Lemmin Demo Disk 2, suitably renamed. Using an UnDelete utility has preserved the original time and date stamps on the two missing directories. :spin

The image is now a byte-for-byte copy of the original disk except in the region adjacent to the originally corrupted sound bounce file. (I had to reset the Volume Information and time and date stamp of the MOVIESOUNDS directory following the restoration of a good copy of the sound bounce file. ;))

The damage that remains is causing the Sound Drop and sound entdeath.8svx file entries to be invisible to the UnDelete program.

I have good copies of the missing files, but when I copy them to the disk image, they do not overwrite the original files, but end up in an unused area of the disk. :(

The only way to get this disk image restored properly is to replace these files at their original location on the disk, and this is what I intend to try next...

[Supamax]

I have good copies of the missing files, but when I copy them to the disk image, they do not overwrite the original files, but end up in an unused area of the disk. :(

The only way to get this disk image restored properly is to replace these files at their original location on the disk, and this is what I intend to try next...

Let us know when/if you manage to do it :). Personally, I'm very interested.
By the way, I think that Galahad (and/or StingRay) could give you a hint or two on this subject...

[hitm4n]

why must they be in the same sectors as the disc i sent, so long as the disc and anim works ?

[prowler]

When I said that the good copies of the missing files do not overwrite the original files, but instead end up in an unused area of the disk, I was really using the term "unused" for want of a better word.

There are, in fact, a large number of loose blocks on the disk (i.e. files without a file header) and I can't be certain that they're not used in some way by the demo program. For this reason, I would like to restore the missing files to their original location.

Those two files were salvaged from the original disk correctly by the DiskSalv utility, so they must be intact. I intend to use a disk sector editing tool to capture, or at least identify, the sectors containing the file headers for the missing files and paste the information into the disk image.

The two missing files span 49 x 512-byte sectors on the disk. I'm hoping that it will only be necessary to copy the two sectors containing the file headers in order to restore the files to where they belong.

Then, all that will be required is to clean up the gaps at the end of each of the three files, i.e. the two missing ones and the sound bounce file I restored to the image yesterday.

[prowler]

Nearly there!

I now have a disk image with no checksum errors and only one file missing. :)

The original disk has one track which is so badly damaged that the TrackEd disk sector editor is unable to read any of its 11 sectors.

The bad track also seems to have been somehow responsible for corrupting the immediately following area of the original disk image, the corruption continuing for a further 38 sectors.

Thus, one damaged track caused the corruption of three adjacent files in the original disk image.

Fortunately, the bad track contains only one file header, and this file spans only four of the damaged sectors.

This evening, I used TrackEd to recover all 38 undamaged sectors from the original disk and pasted them into the disk image to reinstate one of the missing files.

The last missing file is only 1210 bytes and belongs in the disk image between the two files recovered previously.

I have two good copies of this file: one recovered from the original disk using DiskSalv, and the other found on the Anti-Lemmin Demo disk 2.

One difficulty remains: I can restore the file to the disk image using a binary file editor, then use TrackEd to recalculate the checksums to repair three of the four remaining sectors, but there is still the missing file header which will leave the last remaining sector incomplete.

The DiskSalv utility can evidently read data from damaged areas of a disk, irrespective of checksum errors. I will study the documentation to see if it is possible to capture, or at least display, any of the damaged disk sectors, in particular the one containing the elusive file header.

[prowler]

I have now restored all files to their original location on the R.P.M.MOVIES2.adf disk image, and have had the Lemmin's Revenge Anim running under WinUAE in an A500+ configuration. :)

I have updated the Demos.zip file in the Zone to reflect this.

All 32 disks have now been imaged successfully. :D

The complete list of all disk images in the collection is as follows:

The coverdisks
***********
CU Amiga - 113 - Clarissa 2.0 (CU_113.adf)
CU Amiga - 136 - XiPaint (CU_136.adf)
CU Amiga - 142 - Upper Disk Tools (UDT_1.01.adf)
CU Amiga - 143 - Mikro Mortal Tennis (MMTDemo.adf)
Amiga Format - 78a - Snap Maps (AF78a.adf)
Amiga Format - 78b - Blitz Bombers (AF78b.adf)
Amiga Format - 83a - Scape Maker (AF83a.adf)
Amiga Format - 84a - Game Engine (AF84a.adf)
Amiga Computing - October 1994 - 3D Textures (3DTextures.adf)
Amiga Computing - February 1995 - Anim Workshop (AWorks.adf)
Amiga Computing - January 1997 - Utilities Unleashed (AC-108c.adf
Amiga Computing - March 1997 - Tool-Ey Unbelievable (AC-110b.adf)
Amiga Action - Christmas 1995 - Disk 2 - The Winning Post (The Winning Post.adf)
Amiga Action - May 1996 - Disk 1 - Charlie Chimp Remix (Charlie Chimp.adf)
Amiga Action - May 1996 - Disk 2 - Saturday Night Snooker (SNSnooker.adf)
Amiga Action - May 1996 - Disk 3 - Munch (Munch.adf)

The dodgy stuff
************
Stag - Buk Stag 1-7 - Adult only (STAG_1.adf-STAG_7.adf)

The demos
********
Digital Force Music Selector (D.F.M.S.adf)
Lemmin's Revenge Anim by Roddy McMillan - Disk 1 (R.P.M.MOVIES1.adf)
Lemmin's Revenge Anim by Roddy McMillan - Disk 2 (R.P.M.MOVIES2.adf)
Focused on Art - Anarchy and Vision Slideshow (DIGITAL - REALITY PACK21.adf)
Devil Star - Virtual Dreams - AGA - Polka Brothers Demo (Polka Brothers..adf) [sic]

The games
********
Imbrium (Imbrium.adf)
Pacman Worlds (PucmanWorlds.adf) [sic]
Gravity Power + Level Editor (SQUINT-5.adf)
Bratwurst AGA (BRAT+WWN.adf)

I shall post full details of how I recovered the final disk image tomorrow, with links to the tools used.

I think I'd better mention that the following disks in this set have non-standard boot code which may trigger virus warnings:

Amiga Action - Christmas 1995 - Disk 2 - The Winning Post (The Winning Post.adf)
Stag - Buk Stag 1-7 - Adult only (STAG_1.adf-STAG_7.adf)
Digital Force Music Selector (D.F.M.S.adf)
Lemmin's Revenge Anim by Roddy McMillan - Disk 1 (R.P.M.MOVIES1.adf)
Lemmin's Revenge Anim by Roddy McMillan - Disk 2 (R.P.M.MOVIES2.adf)
Focused on Art - Anarchy and Vision Slideshow (DIGITAL - REALITY PACK21.adf)
Gravity Power + Level Editor (SQUINT-5.adf)

[prowler]

When Amiga Explorer (http://www.amigaforever.com/ae/) failed to get a complete image of the disk, I ran TSgui (http://thomas-rapp.homepage.t-online.de/downloads/tsgui.lha) v1.8 repeatedly until I had an image with no checksum errors. Cylinders 6, 8 and 71 had flaky sectors giving bad checksums and Cylinder 47 had a missing sector header. Nothing could be done about the missing sector header, but eventually the bad sector checksums on Cylinders 6, 8 and 71 were resolved and I got an image with no checksum errors.

I then used DiskSalv v2r11.32 (http://aminet.net/package/disk/salv/DiskSalv11_32) to salvage all recoverable data from the disk. DiskSalv recovered good copies of all files, complete with their date and time stamps, except MOVIESOUNDS/sound bounce, which was incomplete. At this point, I assumed that all I needed to do was find a good copy of this file and overwrite the bad copy on the disk image.

I discovered that disk 2 of the Anti-Lemmin Demo (http://aminet.net/search?query=AntiLemmin) on Aminet contained a good copy of the file and downloaded it.

However, on mounting the disk image in WinUAE, I disovered that the following directories and files, which DiskSalv had recovered from the disk, were missing: c.info, lem.info, MoviePlayer, s, s/startup-sequence, libs, libs/icon.library, libs/mathtrans.library, MOVIESOUNDS/Sound Drop and MOVIESOUNDS/sound entdeath.8svx.

I downloaded UnDelete v1.02 (http://aminet.net/package/disk/salv/UnDelete) from Aminet, and used the command line tool in WinUAE to UnDelete everything except the two missing MOVIESOUNDS files, which could not be found. In this way, the date and time stamps of the two directories were preserved.

Next, I overwrote the bad copy of MOVIESOUNDS/sound bounce in the disk image with a good one. This updated the date and time stamp of the MOVIESOUNDS directory and the Volume Information, which I reset by restoring the fields from the previous disk image.

(Although I had yet to discover it, the TSgui program had, because of the missing sector header in Cylinder 47 of the disk, copied Cylinder 46 into both Cylinders 46 (Blocks 1012-1033) and 47 (Blocks 1034-1055) of the disk image, which caused both the Sound Drop and sound entdeath.8svx files to go missing. The latest version of TSgui is 2.5b13; it may be better at dealing with disk errors.)

There was no sign at all of the missing Sound Drop and sound entdeath.8svx files in the disk image. However, the information had to be available on the original disk somehow, because DiskSalv was able to recover these files successfully.

So I used TrackEd v1.24 (http://aminet.net/package/disk/moni/TrackEd) to search the original disk for both filenames. Sound Drop couldn't be found, but sound entdeath.8svx was found in Block 1047. In fact, TrackEd couldn't read any of Blocks 1034-1044 from Track 47, so I wrote each of Blocks 1045-1082 to files, copied them to my PC running WinUAE and used TrackEd to paste them into the disk image to restore the sound entdeath.8svx file.

I was now looking for a tool which would capture or display the information which DiskSalv had used to recover the remaining Sound Drop file. I discovered that DiskMon Tools has the ability to repair damaged tracks and save them to another disk.

I downloaded DiskMon Tools v3.13 (http://aminet.net/package/disk/moni/DiskMonTools) and used this feature to repair Track 47 of the original disk (Block 1036 couldn't be salvaged; this must be the one with the missing sector header), and saved the result to another disk. I wrote Blocks 1034, 1035 and 1037-1044 to files (Block 1036 had been filled with zeroes), copied them to my PC and used TrackEd to paste Blocks 1043 (Sound Drop file header) and 1044 (first 488 bytes of Sound Drop file) into the disk image to restore the Sound Drop file and fix the disk image.

(The sound bounce file header is in Block 1033, so this file was completely corrupted by the missing Cylinder 47, but Blocks 1034-1042 of the disk image were repaired by importing a good copy of the file.)

[hitm4n]

LOL. Lots of technical stuff and something i would have given up on early on, but i see now you enjoy these little challenges and its great they are all backed up and shared. Many thanks.

Its been many many years since i watched the lemmins demo and i remember thinking back then that it was shit "because it was nowhere near Schwartz's stuff". How is it really? As bad as i remember or worth another watch...?

[Supamax]

@ prowler

Brilliant, brilliant recovery! :great
And many hints for similar future recoveries. :agree

[prowler]

@Supamax,

Thanks, mate! It's good to know the effort is appreciated. It makes it all the more worthwhile. :)

[Philly]

Hello to everyone here! This is my first post on this site... so go easy on me ;)

I realise this is an old thread with some more resent posts on it but it features near the top of my google search for "Jolly Rogers cook book". Before you assume Im a 15yr old nut job asking for something naughty I DONT WANT THE COOK BOOK ITSELF (and Im 33, lol). After all it’s widely available on the net as text files and on BTTR as an .ADF. Its the Demo on the beginning of the JRCB version that I had that I would love to see again and its not included on the adf in BTTR. Can anybody shed any light on this mysterious demo which actually featured on the TV news in the north east of England in the background as the police put an amnesty out to parents to hand the disk in if their kidz had gotten hold of it???
It featured mellow music, scrolley (of course) and a 3d space manta-ray like creature spiraling through a galaxy of stars...

That’s all I can remember Im afraid but I`ve searched for it for a long long time on and off and even searched through old stuff at my mams place for the disk I once had but all to no avail.
If its available with or without the rest of the disk Id love to see it again...
Hope you can help! Many thanks in advance if you can!

Philly.

P.S. I cant yet enter the zone to look at the adf described here so i dont know if its the one?

[prowler]

Hi, Philly, and welcome to EAB! :great

The disk you are looking for was not among those which hitm4n sent me for imaging, so it was never uploaded to the Zone.

The Jolly Roger's Cookbook disk was one of three disks which hitm4n found in TOSECs and binned just before sending the others to me.

[TheCyberDruid]

Thanks for the info prowler :great

You can find the TOSEC version of the Jolly Roger Cookbook on the EAB file server (http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=43633) in the folder 'TOSEC/Docs' Philly :)

[Philly]

Ok guys thats excellent, I`ll take a looky see if its the one with the demo. :) Ill let you know!

[Philly]

Damn it! No demo at all, I think this is the one on BTTR. (Version 3), Im not sure which one I had though, but deffo not this one unless someone removed the demo so it loads quicker. Its a real mystery, Like I said that demo had its 15 mins of fame and from what I can gather seems to be a missing demo. I remember being quite impressed by it as a boy (not just cos of its celebrity status either, lol). I wonder if I should post a seperate thread where more people would see it and see if we can get it or its demo to turn up from someones loft???

[prowler]

Let's hope that hitm4n checked that the TOSEC version of the disk was identical to his before binning it. :blased

Its a real mystery, Like I said that demo had its 15 mins of fame and from what I can gather seems to be a missing demo. I remember being quite impressed by it as a boy (not just cos of its celebrity status either, lol). I wonder if I should post a seperate thread where more people would see it and see if we can get it or its demo to turn up from someones loft???

I think that's your best bet. :great

Start a new thread and provide as much information as you can. You'll never know what might turn up otherwise. :agree

[hitm4n]

Well.. Heres what happened. I had 40 or so discs for archiving, i checked the tosecs for anything missing and anything i found in tosecs i did throw in the bin.

But only games and demos.

I still have a handful of discs that i probably will never throw away so long as i still have a working Amiga (well, i hope it still works). DOpus 4.12, Quarterback Tools, MessySid III, TUDE, CacheCDFS, ReloKick etc, but the JRCB is also one of those discs. The floppy disc bomb is a classic, i'll never forget it - lol.

I was never aware of different versions of this cookbook, and i honestly don't recall it having a demo as an intro, but its a seriously long time ago it was last loaded so i could easily be wrong. I would gladly send it to Prowler for archival if it can be returned again intact.

I have a second disc that is very similar to JRCB called "Logic's Book of Forbidden Knowledge". Probably holds mostly the same info wrapped in a new GUI.

In fact Prowler, i've checked thru my discs again, there are 4 other discs i'd love to have as ADF's too. They are custom personal discs, a couple of utility discs and a disclist i created myself with intro anim, music etc. A friend and i wanted to create a trading group and we gave ourselves the name "CCT". Ahhh the nostalgia, this was 20 years ago.

[prowler]

In fact Prowler, i've checked thru my discs again, there are 4 other discs i'd love to have as ADF's too. They are custom personal discs, a couple of utility discs and a disclist i created myself with intro anim, music etc. A friend and i wanted to create a trading group and we gave ourselves the name "CCT". Ahhh the nostalgia, this was 20 years ago.

Hi Hitm4n,

Thanks for catching up with this thread so quickly. :)

You are welcome to send me any disks you have that you wish to see preserved as ADFs. I will give them by best attention just like the others.

As I said previously, I never bin original disks, so you are welcome to have them back once I have images of them to distribute.

I would suggest that you wait until the Christmas/New Year holiday is over and for the weather to improve a little and then send them down to me.

I'll return them to you as soon as I have good images of them.

Just let me know when you're ready and whether you still have my address details. :great

[hitm4n]

I've got your address and i've packaged them up already :) Will send on the 4th January probably (when i go back to work). 6 discs, all for return please, i've included a couple of stamps too. Lovely.

[prowler]

Thanks, mate! :great

That's something to look forward to after the holiday. I'll let you know when I receive them. If they're in good shape, I'll probably get them imaged the same day.

I've still got your return address too. I'm happy to be returning them to you this time. :)

[hitm4n]

Keep hold of that address, i forgot to write it in the package.

[prowler]

Keep hold of that address, i forgot to write it in the package.

Oops! :shocked No problem. ;)

[prowler]

Hi hitm4n,

Your package was here when I got home this evening. :)

I guess you must have decided to post it early. ;)

I'll dump them for you tomorrow. How would you like me to make the images available? I'll not distribute them if you don't want me to.

[prowler]

Okay, I have successfully dumped six new disk images. :)

NANOOK.adf
Logic's Book Of Forbidden Knowledge

BATMAN.adf
Jolly Roger's Cookbook III
(This disk image does not match the
Jolly Roger Cookbook Version III.adf in TOSEC.)

LIST01.adf
Mr.Squint's Disklist - Compiled August 1996
SoftWood file IIsg - v1.05
SQUINT'S-DEMOS 02-SEP-1992
SQUINT'S-GAMES 18-MAR-1991
SQUINT's-NEWYS 18-MAR-1991
SQUINT'S-UTILS 18-MAR-1991
SQUINT'S-WANTS 02-SEP-1992

DOpus.adf
Directory Opus v4.12 install disk

UTILS01.adf
Mr.Squint's Utilities Disk 1 - Compiled 10 September 1996
X-COPY PRO v8.0
FILE MASTER v3 020
TXED v1.3
VIRUS CHECKER v8.3
QUARTERBACK TOOLS v1.52
PROTRACKER v3.1b

UTILS02.adf
Mr.Squint's Utilities Disk 2 - Compiled 10 September 1996
488 GAME CHEATS
GAMETAMER
D-COPY v3.1
EXOTIC RIPPER
MULTI-RIPPER v3.0
POWER-TRACKER v1.0
CYGNUS ED PRO v2.3
SNOOPDOS v3.0
AMIGA REALTIME MONITOR v2.03
POWERPACKER v4.1a
SYSINFO v3.23
VIEW v3.0
VMORPH v2.2
ACTION REPLAY v1.5
MULTI FORMAT v1.2

All disks are bootable to a splash screen and/or menu front-end except the Directory Opus v4.12 install disk.

[hitm4n]

Really sorry to be slow on this. I was subscribed to this thread and i don't recall getting a message about a new post. I was reminded just now about these discs when a friend in another forum started talking about some amiga stuff he's selling on ebay. Well, here i am again...

If you are done with the dumping i would like the discs back. I'm fine with all discs being shared, the JRCB is already out there so releasing mine isn't going to make a difference. The disclist is probably not much good to anyone but it can go out there i guess (what do you think, considering its content ?), and the utils were custom discs i compiled myself that got WELL used by me, a really useful set of discs i think. I just loved File Master...

And i don't know about DOpus with regards the version, wether its a full version, is it publicly available now or still sold in some form ?

[prowler]

Hi hitm4n,

Thanks for your reply. I'll upload the disk images to the Zone shortly (one Zip file: Moredisks.zip), and I'll get the disks ready to send back to you tomorrow.

[hitm4n]

Thx again.

[prowler]

You're welcome! :) I'll let you know when I've sent them.

BTW, I have a last modification to the troublesome R.P.M.Movies2.adf, which I shall upload a new version of in the next few days.

Although the disk worked fine, there is some unwanted remnant of code in the disk block which contains the last part of the sound bounce file. Between the end of the file and the end of the block, there is some data which remains from the fact that the TSGui program copied the contents of Cylinder 46 into Cylinder 47 of the image as well when it couldn't read Cylinder 47. I shall copy the block of data from the original disk and paste it into the disk image. The disk image will then be an exact byte-for-byte copy of the original disk! :great

[hitm4n]

Now if you print that post out on some A4 paper, fold it into a paper airplane and throw it over my head.... :) LOL. Shout when the image is up and i'll leech it. Cheers.

[prowler]

Now if you print that post out on some A4 paper, fold it into a paper airplane and throw it over my head.... :) LOL.

LOL! :lol

Shout when the image is up and i'll leech it. Cheers.

Will do! I shall probably upload the R.P.M.Movies disk images as a pair, just in case anyone else decides to download it and wonders where the other one is! :laughing

[prowler]

@hitm4n:

There is no update required for the R.P.M.Movies disk set. :)

It appears that I have already taken care of that last remnant of code left behind by the TSGui duplication of Cylinder 46 in the R.P.M.MOVIES2 disk image. :rolleyes

BTW, I sent your disks back by First Class post on 18th January, so you should have received them about ten days ago. However, the PM I sent you is still unread. :bash

[hitm4n]

Sorry again. I did get them back ages ago, nicely wrapped. Many thx.

[hitm4n]

Prowler, could you upload the RPM Movies pair of discs again please. On checking my archives it seems i never got the updated zip with both discs in. Thanks in advance.

[prowler]

There was no update necessary. I discovered that I'd already cleared that block of redundant code before I uploaded it the first time.

Sorry for the confusion, but I did explain in my last post that no update would be required.

Thanks again for giving me the opportunity to image those disks! :great

[hitm4n]

Yeah but the archive i originally grabbed was not the updated one with disc 2 in it (now expired from The Zone), so i never got disc 2 at all :(

[prowler]

Ah, now I see what you mean! :)

Wait a moment, and the updated archive will be up in the Zone for you again. :great


Edit: OK, It's there! :D

[hitm4n]

Got it. Many thanks.