WHDLoad For CD32 Pad Campaign.

[Whitesnake]

The purpose of this is to document all the games that could benefit from a CD32 Pad and for all those who like to play Amiga games layed back from the keyboard etc.
Hopefully some WHDLoad slave authors will take notice and maybe one day add these features
Please keep your description brief and we will try and build a simple easy to read comprehensive list.
Thanks goes to all the slave authors who's patched games don't appear on this list. It is very much appreciated.

Titles in RED are ones which have been fixed.

Flashback *Skip protection/intro screen, also access options screen and change items via pad*
Alien³ Galahad
North & South *Support for two Joysticks**Infantry change Key to JoyFire2*
Pinball Dreams *Table Selection via Pad*
Ninja Remix *Y/N load screen on pad*
Ninja Three *removal of built in trainer on slave*
Arkanoid *F keys mapped to pad*
CaveMania Galahad
Barbarian (Palace) *F1 and F2 to pad*
Carnage *Name Input Screen Bypass*
Chase HQ *Space Bar boost on pad & bypass name entry*
Chase HQ 2 *Space Bar boost on pad & bypass name entry*
Golden Axe Psygore
Globdule *Protection Code screen bypass via pad*
Kwik Snax *skip intro with pad*
Predator *start game via pad space bar on pad*
Predator 2 *Menu selection on pad*
Menace Psygore
Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles Galahad
Shadow Dancer *Space Bar to pad*
The Settlers *insert passwords via pad*
Chuckie Egg *Keys 1,2,3,4 mapped to pad for number of players*
Outrun Europa *Title screen music or fx selection and Y/N continue screen on pad*
Tiny Skweeks *General pad and button control*
Zoom! *F1,F2,F3, on pad*
Jaguar XJ220 *Language Selection *1,2,3,4 on pad* or skip with english.
Dogs Of War *1 or 2 player keys, JoyFire 1 & JoyFire 2*
Ugh! *Main Menu* F1,F2,F3,F4 on pad*
Fire And Brimstone *Space Bar or Any Letter Key *Select Weapon* *also takes you to select level from main title*
Any cursor key *Potion 1* "left"
Any key on Numeric Pad *Potion 2* "right"
Rubicon *name entry bypass* JoyFire1
Blood Money *F1 -Ply1, F2 -Ply2, "JoyFire1,JoyFire2"
X-Out *JoyFire1 to start game instead of mouse*
1942 - Battle For Midway *smartbomb on JoyFire2*
Rally Cross Challenge *F1-4 keys player selection* JoyFire1 on each pad, Then J key JoyFire1 for Joystick.
Ballistix "select 1 or 2 player with JoyFire2"
Enchanted Land "JoyFire1 needed to skip Mainscrolling screen and start game, JoyFire2 for weapon selection"
Dizzy Panic Bored Seal
Spellfire The Sorceror "Spacebar on JoyFire2 to select weapon"
Navy Moves "JoyFire 2 to select weapon" JoyFire 1 or 2 to select Navy Moves 1 or 2 on boot menu"
Shinobi JOTD
Alien Storm "JoyFire2 for Special Aerial Attack"
P.P. Hammer, "Skip Name/Code Input, F1 To F5 keys mapped on pad"
Historyline 1914-1918 "F1 mapped to Joyfire2 for cycle change"
Battle Isle "Space Bar mapped to Joyfire2 for cycle change"
Wings Of Death "JoyFire1 to Skip Title screen"
Baal "JoyFire1 for Space to Begin"
The North Sea Inferno "JoyFire2 to change weapon" "Spacebar also needs remap"
Universal Warrior "JoyFire2 for Rocket"
Alien Bash II "JoyFire2 for Weapon Select"
Super C "JoyFire1 to skip code screen"
Defenders Of The Earth "Spacebar on JoyFire2"
Galactic Warrior Rats "JoyFire2 to change weapon"
Space Gun "Select Menu Options with Pad"
California Games "Automatic Name Entry, Player 1, Player 2 etc"
Gauntlet II Hungry Horace
Super Cauldron "JoyFire2" to open inventory.
Car-Vup Hungry Horace
Xenon Psygore
Mig-29 Soviet Fighter "JoyFire2 for Weapon Select"
BMX Simulator "Joystick up to change through controls
Joystick Fire 2 to change number of course
Joystick Fire 1 To start game and to skip demo"

[Rebel-CD32]

I've been thinking of a few more games that need to be added to this list. Here are the ones I thought of so far. Of course, making ALL games work with the Play/Pause button would be great, since the CD32 doesn't have a P or spacebar key.

NEEDING CD32 CONTROL PAD SUPPORT

Jurassic Park - *Needs button to access consoles and switch weapons*
Wonderboy in Monsterland - *Needs button to replace spacebar to open doors*
Street Fighter II - *Select joystick or keyboard control and amount of players*
Super Stardust - AGA Disk version, needs button for weapons selection (although a CD32 version exists, the controls are weird, and if on a compilation it would be missing the music)
Stardust - *Button select weapons*
Pinkie - Not sure what it needs, but I haven't seen it on a compilation yet

These other games would be great to have on the CD32, but won't run yet because of memory restrictions. If someone were to get them working on a 2MB CD32, we'd all be very grateful.

NEEDING CD32 MEMORY SUPPORT

Super Street Fighter II AGA
Aladdin
The Lion King
Capital Punishment
Master Axe

I'll add more if I think of any.

[Ebster]

North and South with 2 CD32 pads would be awsome!

[Paul]

Thread moved to project.WHDLoad

[Galahad/FLT]

Head Over Heels CD32 pad BETA in the zone for testing.

F1 = Red
Space = Blue
Jump = Green

[Galahad/FLT]

Cavemania updated to utilise Blue button for jump

[kriz]

Very cool work Galahad!!!

[Ebster]

haven´t tried yet but you´re supa dupa fly!! can you also fix North and South for two pads in two player modus? with left and right shift mapped to the pad.. would be great!!!

[Ebster]

maybe i´m blind but can´t find the two games in the zone...

[z00mba]

Maybe a lot of other game could benefit of having at least a second button support. For example for jumping by pressing button 2 instead of UP.

[Ebster]

trying cavemania on my real a1200 i get dos-error #205 object not found on locking cavemaniadata :mad

[Galahad/FLT]

That isn't the full install, thats only the WHDLoad installer, you need to provide the data yourself ;)

It works with the Quartex version.

[Ebster]

thanx! just uploaded the installed qtx version to the zone.. for lazy people like me ;)

works fine with my config and the original cd32 pad!!! :)

unfortunately not with my 2nd megadrive-pad button for some strange reason but in general this pad seems to be quite choosy :nuts the pad works great with e.g. turrican3 or snowbros and some cd32-titles but then again not with e.g. banshee.

i don´t need to understand everything i guess...

on topic again, i´m looking forward for more adaptions as mentioned above ...NORTH AND SOUTH anyone?? :agree

[Rebel-CD32]

Kid Gloves II, could you map the space bar to the second (or blue) button on the control pad, this key is needed in the game to use the arcade machines and open doors and stuff. Also, after you die, you need to enter your name on the high score table and press Return/Enter. Fire doesn't work, so could you map the Return key to one of the CD32 buttons as well? The Return key is also needed in-game to exit from the slot machine. Thanks!

[spiff]

Battle squadron : Defaulting player 2 to joystick, or button two for changing settings instead of F1 F2

[Rebel-CD32]

Battle squadron : Defaulting player 2 to joystick, or button two for changing settings instead of F1 F2

That's a damn good idea. It's a real shame there was never a second button option in that game to fire the special weapon, it's pretty hard to spin the control pad in a circle to fire it, compared to a joystick, or the second mouse button.

Another game that needs support for the CD32 pad is Puggsy, I think it needs the space bar during the game.

And all games with a pause key should be switched to the CD32 pad's Play button.

[Computolio]

Final Fight is horribly broken because of it's crazy one-button control scheme. Perhaps the controls could be properly remapped to two buttons?

[Boo Boo]

Very Nice Idea 2 buttons would add a lot

You know sf2 when you select "2 button joystick" and "shift key" is this three buttons or the shift key is repeated?

[spiff]

That's a damn good idea. It's a real shame there was never a second button option in that game to fire the special weapon, it's pretty hard to spin the control pad in a circle to fire it, compared to a joystick, or the second mouse button.


The latest WHD version can use the second button for the bomb :)

[Hungry Horace]

been looking over this, and i think it's all great work btw.

i dont have a CD32 myself anymore, but still use the comp.pro pad all the time, and i hate having to reach over to use the keyboard on my a1200. (i dont keep it on a desk)


i was just wondering if Galahad (who seems kind enough to fix a few installs in this way) had considered making Pinball Dreams CD32 playable, with the same layout as Fantasies or Illusions?

i saw the "table selection" mentioned above, but i dont know if its possible to have different button-maps between the menu and the game but personally just in-game buttons would be a great improvement. (not sure why this is not mentioned above?)

Same goes for JOTD's SlamTilt installer.



also, i'm wondering about Galahad's 99%-complete SWOS update..... to work on 2meg chip, thus CD32 friendly? (guessing) - i'm fascinated to know if this is the case,


anwhow, i hope you all endeavour to add more pad-mapping to your installs, as i think its a great idea and much apprciated.

[Whitesnake]

i was just wondering if Galahad (who seems kind enough to fix a few installs in this way) had considered making Pinball Dreams CD32 playable, with the same layout as Fantasies or Illusions?

Same goes for JOTD's SlamTilt installer.


I talked to Galahad about this on IRC and i believe he said he could work something out, and concerning JOTD's Slam Tilt slave i don't know unfortunately.

There is however a patch on Aminet which does let you control Slam Tilt with a pad. But it is missing certain menu controls.

http://it.aminet.net/game/patch/nts_slamtiltcd.lzh
http://it.aminet.net/game/patch/nts_slamtiltcd.readme

There is also an appeal in the readme for more control.
The bad news is that the intro and menu aren't patched!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Plz plz plz if you can add these feature so I could play the game directly
on a base CD32.

[TheBoss]

We really need to get Galactic Warrior Rats and Space Gun working, they are fine games in need to be added to the CD32 projekt :)

[Hungry Horace]

cheers for that W.S. i'll have a look at that patch.


gotta agree with Wonderboy in MonsterLand above (space on 2nd button) and if i bothered i could probably find a few more too, but i dont want to request too many!


-- edit --

slamtilt patch is pretty lame having looked now... not only does it not like either HD install i tried (asks for disk one) - but reading the docs i see the flippers are on rwd/fwd and not left / blue.... ugh!

[tomcat666]

Can someone pleae re-up HoH whdload with cd32 pad support to the zone. :) Just got the HoneyBee... ;-)

Great stuff !

[tomcat666]

c'mon - someone must still have HoH beta whdload with cd32 pad support ? Galahad ????

[jotd]

New slave will be on WHDLoad page soon. Features blue/2nd button triggers banzai as requested.

cheers

[Konrad]

About Battle Squadron...
The latest WHD version can use the second button for the bomb :)
This doesn't work for the second player when selecting a joystick as player 2 input.
Also, is it possible to add a tooltype for player2 input, so that I can set a joystick as default ?

[Boo Boo]

Shinobi 2nd button is cool :)
Didnt notice but Golden Axe has also been updated cooL- 12.03.06:)

Turrican 3 bionic arm to a 3rd button would be cool:)

[Hungry Horace]

even though its not that good and the installer is from 1998(!) it'd be nice to have a custom tooltype to change the FWD / RWD buttons of "thomas the tankengine pinball" over to Left & Blue - like every other CD32 pinball game...

i managed to change the keys of the speccy Horace games with an emualtor's disassambler myself once... i can imagine it's *that* much different :laughing




Gauntlet II "JoyFire1" to start as player.


surely you'd want Magic on blue-button too?

[Galahad/FLT]

I've now updated my CD32 pad support routine to include Megadrive/Genesis pad support too.

Cavemania in the zone

Button B / Red CD32 = Fire
Button C / Blue CD32 = Jump

[dlfrsilver]

thanks Phil ^^, your effort is greatly appreciated ^^.

[Galahad/FLT]

Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles now has Megadrive/Genesis/CD32 Joypad support for important button presses.

[Boo Boo]

Hi I have a Problem with Street Fighter 2 it works with my sega pad but not my CD32 pad

I also had a similar problem with Aladdin http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=25542

[Galahad/FLT]

Alien 3 now has weapon change remapped to down control and 2nd button

[Chain]

Turrican and Flashback will be awesome with pad only.
How about bounty for those programmers???

[Hungry Horace]

Flashback will be awesome with pad only.


F! and return on yellow / green would be all you need wouldnt it? it already has 2nd buttons support for drawing the gun as i recall. oh, Esc on "play" might help too.


doesnt Turrican do space on blue anyway? maybe last time i played it was on emualtion with a custom layout... i forget.

[Chain]

F! and return on yellow / green would be all you need wouldnt it? it already has 2nd buttons support for drawing the gun as i recall. oh, Esc on "play" might help too.

doesnt Turrican do space on blue anyway? maybe last time i played it was on emualtion with a custom layout... i forget.

often used keys are F1 - inventory and Enter - use :crying

[fisken uno]

Twin World uses the space bar to change "weapon" (bubbles of different colours).

On my wishlist are primarily these: Twin World, PP Hammer And North And South. :)

BTW, is there any different way to map keyboard keys to buttons on the CD32 pad (if you don't want to wait for a slave that supports it, that is)? Is there any tool out there that you could put on a custom CD32 collection to load along with WHDload for each game, mapping the keys you need to buttons on the CD32 pad? Oh, how I would love that!

Also, can you set a button on the CD32 pad as quit key in WHDload?

[killergorilla]

You can't load anything alongside WHDLoad as it takes over the system and negates any programs you run before it.

[fisken uno]

You can't load anything alongside WHDLoad as it takes over the system and negates any programs you run before it.

Oh... I guess WHDl slave support for the pad is required then.

[fisken uno]

Dyna Blaster uses space bar (I think?) for time bombs. Just noticed that while playing it with my gf tonight and it was impossible to make those bombs go off :( Sort of ruins the game, unless you avoid getting the ability to drop time bombs.

[Zetr0]

one of the most anoying i feel is RoadKill...

there you are spanking a level and you have to reach forward or using the timed-toe-spacebar technique to fire missiles...

whats up with that?


RoadKill needs 2 buttons and NO space bar!!

[Bamiga2002]

Dyna Blaster uses space bar (I think?) for time bombs. Just noticed that while playing it with my gf tonight and it was impossible to make those bombs go off :( Sort of ruins the game, unless you avoid getting the ability to drop time bombs.You have wankin' material on your <SPACE BAR> :D. Remove the dirt first, now it should be enough to make those bombs explode ;).

Never had this prob with bombs meself. And those time bombs really make life easier in Dynablaster world. Time bombs to explode with joypad button please! :)

[killergorilla]

one of the most anoying i feel is RoadKill...

there you are spanking a level and you have to reach forward or using the timed-toe-spacebar technique to fire missiles...

whats up with that?


RoadKill needs 2 buttons and NO space bar!!

YES! Awesome game. Awesome. 2 buttons would be SUPERB :)

Can't you set controls as pad in the menu though?

[Konrad]

Yes, you can ;).

[fisken uno]

You have wankin' material on your <SPACE BAR> :D.

Wankin' material? No, that'll be on my GF :shocked :crazy :laughing [/perv mode off]

*innocent* :)

[Hungry Horace]

did no one think to add Midnight Resistance (blue for 2nd fire) to the list? ;)

[Boo Boo]

Id like to just update this thread and thank the WHDLoad team for these installs:great

Aladdin - 2nd Button now works!
Cannon Fodder CD32
Alien 3
Toki - 2nd Button Jump
Chaos Engine CD32
Soccer Kid CD32
Golden Axe
Ugh!
CaveMania

Ive probably missed loads out but thanks!

[Angus]

Frontier Elite 2 would definitely benefit from some attention to the CD32 joypad code. The CD32 version was latest version of the game produced, with some extra features, but if you use it on an Amiga the button occasionally fires your lasers while you are docked which gives you a Police record and destroys the atmosphere (no pun intended!) :-)

[Hungry Horace]

Frontier Elite 2 would definitely benefit from some attention to the CD32 joypad code. The CD32 version was latest version of the game produced, with some extra features, but if you use it on an Amiga the button occasionally fires your lasers while you are docked which gives you a Police record and destroys the atmosphere (no pun intended!) :-)

i think i read somewhere this was related to having a mouse plugged in? cant be sure though


p.s. extra features? please tell more!

[Angus]

i think i read somewhere this was related to having a mouse plugged in? cant be sure though


p.s. extra features? please tell more!

Yes, the mouse thing was really my point - that's what I want fixed.

The differences on the CD32 version are mentioned in a review of CD32 Frontier on the Amiga Games Database, its the second of the 2 reviews I believe.

[Boo Boo]

BcKid - New install works with both Sega and CD32 Pad:great
Zool - Support for both CD32 pad and 2 button joysticks

Psygore improved OSEmu for real joypad support:great

[Retro-Nerd]

Now you can play Hybris (Smart Bomb) & Ruff'n'Tumble (jumping) with 2-button support. :great

[kriz]

Great!!!

[killergorilla]

Now you can play Hybris (Smart Bomb) & Ruff'n'Tumble (jumping) with 2-button support. :great

Nice!

I presume in RnT up still climbs ladders, and enables you to shoot at angles?

And I presume you don't climb ladders when you press the second button?

[Retro-Nerd]

Nice!

I presume in RnT up still climbs ladders, and enables you to shoot at angles?

And I presume you don't climb ladders when you press the second button?

You have to press the jump button and then up to climb the latters. ;)

[Hungry Horace]

Barbarian (Palace) *F1 and F2 to pad*


i had a look into this today. Apart from the fact the keyboard code is hard to find (still evading me atm, but i'm sure i can get it)... there is a much bigger problem.

The game still requires names to be entered on the scoreboard with the keyboard. Personally, i would refuse to fix the game-start button without also finding a solution to the scoreboard problem. This seems like a big (although not impossible to fix) change to make - if the joystick is to be used for entry, although i'd be willing to look into it in the future, (assuming no one else shows an interest in solving this) it's not something i will be doing soon, given the size of the problem

[MethodGit]

Didn't notice this thread!


I mentioned this already in a seperate thread, but Wiz 'N' Liz could benefit greatly from a second button intended for the "drop through platforms" function, to match the Mega Drive control style.

[Hungry Horace]

again, if no one else is interested, i'd look into it... no guarentee's though, and i'd still need the slave source.

it's not a game i'm overly familar with however - so maybe someone more experienced might be better suited to the task :/

[tomcat666]

Still didnt get Head Over Heels with CD32 pad support :( Can any1 that has it put it in the zone ??? PLease...

[Galahad/FLT]

Still didnt get Head Over Heels with CD32 pad support :( Can any1 that has it put it in the zone ??? PLease...

I uploaded a version, will see if I've still got it.

[Cammy]

Rubicon would be really great with second button support for jump, and Play button for pause.

[tomcat666]

I uploaded a version, will see if I've still got it.

Thanx Galahad ! I hope you still have it somewhere or if that fails, someone here kept a version.

TC

[tomcat666]

Galahad: found the HoH CD32 slave ? :) would love to play this without having to have amiga right next to me :(

[Galahad/FLT]

Galahad: found the HoH CD32 slave ? :) would love to play this without having to have amiga right next to me :(


Think i've found it, in the zone

[tomcat666]

Nice ! Thanx Galahad... will try it out today.

[tomcat666]

Ok, I have tried the Head over Heels CD32 pad WHDLoad version and it works well, but there is a little problem... the CARRY button (which is F3) is not mapped to anything on the joypad. Carry button is only available for Heels when he picks up the Bag (this is available very quickly - 4 rooms after the initial room he can pick it up using joystick - steering Charles).
If you could please map this action (F3) to the Yellow button then it would work as it should :)

Thanx in advance.

[Spectre]

North & South *Support for two Joysticks**Infantry change Key to JoyFire2*

Yes please!

Also, is Hired Guns just using a CD32 pad possible?

[tomcat666]

Hmm, in the first it says :

Titles in RED are ones which have been fixed.

Pinball Dreams *Table Selection via Pad*

I can't find this slave that would add CD32 pad support to Pinball Dreams. Does anyone have it ? Would love to be able PD from the couch using CD32 pad :)

OH CRAP... I was using the SEARCH function and that coloured "Pinball Dreams" in RED colour ;-) Hehe... stupid.
So no way of playing PD with a Pad then :(

[Hungry Horace]

i was going to ask for the v1.1 source, but Psygore has beaten me to it!

Xenon can now be crossed off the list :)

http://www.whdload.de/games/Xenon.html

[Retro-Nerd]

Nice, the slowdown is fixed too. Have to test it. :)

Edit: Yep, works fine now in normal speed. Thanks to Psygore. ;)

[killergorilla]

Excellent work, the slowdown has always been a bit of a pain. At last normal speed Xenon!

[Bamiga2002]

In R-type it would be handy for the player to map the second pad-button to release/call-back the power ball.

[Boo Boo]

In R-type it would be handy for the player to map the second pad-button to release/call-back the power ball.

It already does;)

[Bamiga2002]

Cool, maybe i just didn't try it.

[Hungry Horace]

Car-Vup can now be scrubbed from the list - updated slave with 2 button support has been submitted to WHDload.de


any chance of a mod updating the first post with the last few additions? I am unsure is A) the original poster cares anymore, and B) if he would be restricted by the 'time limit' edit rule.

[Graham Humphrey]

I've added your recent couple HH... will do more later.

[Hungry Horace]

I've added your recent couple HH... will do more later.

psssst! (i wasnt responsible for the Xenon update ;) )

[Graham Humphrey]

Just testing ;)

[Reynolds]

Due to lack of time (therefore I haven't read all the comments) can be linked the "Play" button on the pad to the pause option in any game? Just because of the well-known CD100, CD200, etc. compilations, it would be extremely useful to have...

[Hungry Horace]

every game needs patching individually to do that.

if there isnt any other function to justify a CD32 pad-patch its unlikely (although not unheard of) that any WHD slave author would take that up.

[Hungry Horace]

I think I can do Baal, but i need to check all of the buttons (it is more than just 'space to start') and when they occur - i've never played this game so any help appreciated!

[Abaddon]

I think I can do Baal, but i need to check all of the buttons (it is more than just 'space to start') and when they occur - i've never played this game so any help appreciated!

The source is included in the latest install

[Hungry Horace]

The source is included in the latest install

yep thanks :) thats the main reason i bothered to look at it! nice clean code btw - thanks for that!

i might have found all the keys now... not so sure... :S

[Hungry Horace]

Gauntlet II can now be marked as 'done' - updated slave now on whdload.de (http://www.whdload.de/games/Gauntlet2.html) :D

[turrican3]

hi everyone,
could it be possible to have a whdload version of golden axe which could use 4 buttons ??? i mean 1 sword 2 jump 3 sword back 4 the specials bombs ?????
for the moment with the last version :
sword : 1st button
special bombs : 2nd button
jump : 1 st button and up !!! could it be changed to 3 rd button
sword back : 1 st button and down !!!!! coud it be changed to 4th button ?