How about some display "enhancement" ???

[RetroMan]

I played around with blueMSX for quite a while now, and that blueTV feature is just great ! It "emulates" different kind of cables for connecting the computer to a TV/Monitor and hey, it feels just great ....

Well, look yourself -> http://www.gamers-jp.com/bluetest/features.html

(scroll down until you get to blueTV !)

I know it´s not an essential feature but it´s really fun :)

[RetroMan]

What ??? Not even ONE answer ??? You guys are really busy doing other things, are you ;) ???

[Marcuz]

well just because you ask it :) ... i feel no need for that, i use the filters that are there already just once in a while, except the very useful direct3d and/or openGL.
i don't see the point in more blur/scramble pixel; i think better if toni focuses on compatibility then on more eye candy.
but again this is just my token

[FromWithin]

x64, the Commodore64 emulator has got PAL emulation in it (BlueTV is probably based on it). I find that it really makes a difference to the emulation and it feels far more like you are playing on a real C64 than the normal pin-sharp emulation display.

[Toni Wilen]

IMHO pointless in my opinion.. but I can support it if it is easy to do (I haven't looked at the implementation yet)

btw, I have always used RGB connection when possible. I just can't stand looking at composite (crap) or RF (total crap)

[killergorilla]

yeah RGB is the way to go. It's the best picture I can get cos I can't afford a HDTV :)

[pcGTW_Webmaster]

I find that it really makes a difference to the emulation and it feels far more like you are playing on a real C64 than the normal pin-sharp emulation display.
I agree. :) It would be a nice feature.

[Sascha]

x64, the Commodore64 emulator has got PAL emulation in it (BlueTV is probably based on it). I find that it really makes a difference to the emulation and it feels far more like you are playing on a real C64 than the normal pin-sharp emulation display.
I'd second that request if it's not too much work. :)

VICE (C64 emulator) also has this feature and it really brings back that feeling I had when playing on my trusted old C64 back in '85. And the same would apply to my "early Amiga years" feeling. ;)

[FromWithin]

I'd second that request if it's not too much work. :)

VICE (C64 emulator) also has this feature and it really brings back that feeling I had when playing on my trusted old C64 back in '85. And the same would apply to my "early Amiga years" feeling. ;)

x64 is the C64 emulation component of the VICE package. VICE is actually a collection of Commodore computer emulators.

[Sascha]

x64 is the C64 emulation component of the VICE package. VICE is actually a collection of Commodore computer emulators.
Ah, ok. I stand corrected then. :)

Good to know we are talking about the same stuff.

[Akira]

yeah this is pointless.

[fisken uno]

i don't see the point in more blur/scramble pixel; i think better if toni focuses on compatibility then on more eye candy.
but again this is just my token

I agree. Compatibility is far more important than eye candy.

[Fissuras]

It makes the whole experience more like the real thing... Come on, it is a MSX so it is great. :bowdown

[Toni Wilen]

I finally downloaded the souce package and it does not appear to be GPL-compatible (src/VideoRender.c and .h)

[Sascha]

yeah this is pointless.
I wouldn't say pointless, as those early Amiga games surely had been designed for this kind of monitor quality and they simply look "wrong" on todays ultra-sharp displays. In my opinion "getting the look right" is almost as important as getting the game to work properly.

For example playing "Zak McKrakken" on a modern display just does not "feel" right (when compared to the real thing back in the 80s with all its glorious "blurriness" :) ).

Of course if there are some legal issues concerning the mentioned blueMSX code (being not GPL) that's sad... but maybe there are other algorithms. :)
Or one might try to talk to the authors of blueMSX...

[Akira]

Sorry but I never found blurrines to be glorious. I used my C64 through Chroma+Luma, because I hated all the Composite bleeding. And my Amiga went through RGB. Despised the TV looks.

if you want it blurry get a card with TV Out and connect teh output to yoru TV through RF if you want to. No need to add that to an emulator.

[FromWithin]

I finally downloaded the souce package and it does not appear to be GPL-compatible (src/VideoRender.c and .h)

VICE is GPL'ed, so you could try to the source for the PAL emulation in that.

[fiath]

I think the Scale2X stuff is pretty neat:
http://scale2x.sourceforge.net/snapshot1.html

I wouldn't say it was exactly a necessary emulation feature though.

[Paul]

Fiath, we already have Scale2x under filters :D

[Sascha]

Sorry but I never found blurrines to be glorious. I used my C64 through Chroma+Luma, because I hated all the Composite bleeding. And my Amiga went through RGB. Despised the TV looks.

if you want it blurry get a card with TV Out and connect teh output to yoru TV through RF if you want to. No need to add that to an emulator.
Of course I agree that blurriness ist not "glorious", but (for some people) it adds that missing nostalgic (and sometimes even "right") feeling when playing old games. And patching the signal through to a real TV is IMHO not really an option. That's what emulators are for: emulating. ;)

But as I said before, if it's too much trouble I agree that the effort should foremost be spend into getting WinUAE stable. This sort of filter could always be added later (or as a contribution by someone else).

[fiath]

Fiath, we already have Scale2x under filters :D

Cool, when did that go in? I think my WinUAE is a bit old...

[Toni Wilen]

Filters were first introduced about 8 months ago...

[fiath]

Okay, I am just blind then... Nice going! I'm gonna have to check this out... :)