Body Blows AGA

[MethodGit]

This is a particularly rare beast - hasn't been seen in any of the popular areas (i.e. Amiga game sites), not even the ones with chock full of material (PE2000, Sane etc.) have witnessed it. It is known to be different to the ECS version in one aspect that is not the graphics - it's HD installable. Does *anyone* on this board happen to possess this particular edition of the well-remembered Team 17 beat-'em-up?

[TikTok]

...but then I checked and it turns out the version I have labelled as AGA is the same as the ECS one. Hate it when that happens :( Oh well, requests like this help clean up my collection :)

BTW, check out Jambo, it lists at least one site which claims to have the AGA version.

[Tim Janssen]

I have never heard about a version of Body Blows for AGA machines. What I do know is that the original ECS Body Blows (released around february 1993) got an update in the end of 1993.
In this enhanced version the characters moved much smoother, had shadows displayed under them and disc access time was faster. Buyers of the original Body Blows could upgrade to the enhanced version just by sending the bootdisc to Team 17. (I have got this information from a CU Amiga magazine).

[RetroMan]

Well, here you can read the typed manual for the AGA Version : http://www.amigamos.com/manuals/bblowaga.htm

Could it be that this Version is named BODY BLOWS GALACTIC (AGA) ????

[ptrchiappe]

Well i have Body Blows Galactic (which seems to be only AGA) but it comes on three disks, while Body Blows AGA should be on four disks (the last one being the install disk).

I have this version cracked by Fairlight, but unfortunately the dms of the first disk gives an error (at least on the emulator) so i'll check tonight at home and if it works i'll put it on the ADFZone.

[ptrchiappe]

Probably i wasn't very clear in my previous post.

I have both AGA versions in dms form:

- BB Galactic comes on three disks (and has corrupt graphics if you try it on an emulated ECS machine)

- Body Blows AGA comes on four disks (the fourth being the install disk) only the dms of my first disk is corrupt and gives a checksum error at track 69 so i can't even try to see if there are any differences

The dimensions of the dms of disks with the same number (i.e. BB disk 1 and BBG disk 1) are different, so they should be two different games.

I'll try that first disk on the real amiga to see if it makes any difference, but i doubt it being an error on the dms.

[RetroMan]

Jap, I´ve been completely wrong :p

Sorry bout that, but I found out, that there were THREE Versions of Body Blows ;) go ahead and read here : http://www.amigagames.com/gage/b/bodyblows.html

@ptrchiappe

There might be a copy protection on the first disk (read on the site stated above)

[Akira]

Anyway, all the BB games I remember:

Body Blows
Body Blows HD (or AGA, whichever way you want to call it)
Body Blows Galactic ECS
Body Blows Galactic AGA
Ultimate Body BLows (CD32, BB and BBG in one, a bit remade)

I can get Body Blows AGA if you guys need it. Just gimme time to go to the Amiga Pirate Shoppe. :)

[§ane]

Body Blows AGA / HD Installable (4 Disks)
[ http://sane.myip.org/temp/Body_Blows_AGA.zip ]

Tested with WinUAE 0.8.8 r8, i've included a working config file in the zip.

[MethodGit]

Originally posted by ptrchiappe
- BB Galactic comes on three disks (and has corrupt graphics if you try it on an emulated ECS machine)

That's because you are trying to run an AGA game through a different display format (in this term, ECS) to the format your particular version was designed for, silly! :p

Although I'm wondering something: how come Body Blows came on three disks whereas the sequel (and a lot of the time a game's sequel usually comes on more disks than its predecessor) only existed on two disks? And why was there no boss character in Galactic, like there was in the first game?

[ptrchiappe]

Originally posted by MarzAttakz

That's because you are trying to run an AGA game through a different display format (in this term, ECS) to the format your particular version was designed for, silly! :p



Of course i cannot run an AGA game through an ECS display :rolleyes, what i meant to say was that the game loaded anyway instead of stopping and telling me it could not run on that machine :D .

On the subject of my first disk, i tried on my A1200 and i guess that something went wrong during the dms creation process, because it stops at track 69 with a checksum error and the disk created doesn't even boot (the HD loads normally as there was a data disk in the drive). And btw on track 0 it reads "COPYLOCK by Rob Northern", so it could be that it wasn't properly cracked

[Twistin'Ghost]

Originally posted by ptrchiappe
On the subject of my first disk, i tried on my A1200 and i guess that something went wrong during the dms creation process, because it stops at track 69 with a checksum error and the disk created doesn't even boot (the HD loads normally as there was a data disk in the drive). And btw on track 0 it reads "COPYLOCK by Rob Northern", so it could be that it wasn't properly cracked Or the disk that you un-dms'd to could have a physical error on that track. That is a far more common error. Even more common is the Rob Northen (not Northern) info on the bootblock, which really has nothing to do with the actual protection. If you dms disks of Amiga games, you will see that all the time. It's just a message, not the protection itself.

[§ane]

I have BODYAGA1.DMS, BODYAGA2.DMS, BODYAGA3.DMS and BODYAGA4.DMS.

Presumably thats Body Blows AGA, the first DMS fails a CRC check so the actual file is corrupt.

Could this be the same DMS that you have?

ptrchiappe: would you're nick on IRC happen to be [Boz] ?


Marz: If you are serious about dumping those originals, it can be done with any amiga, harddrive or no harddrive, with most dumping tools you can direct the output over the serial port..

read my little guide to transfering files between Amiga & PC
http://network54.com/Forum/message?forumid=14279&messageid=995394316

[ptrchiappe]

@§ane

I connect to internet from my office lan, which just let me go on http:, so no ftp, irc, news and so on.

As a result, i must say i'm not [Boz], i don't know who he/she is and i don't even know why you asked that.

And for the first disk, if it's long 819.776 bytes it's probably the same useless file i have.

[andref4]

Body Blows AGA / HD Installable (4 Disks)
[ http://sane.myip.org/temp/Body_Blows_AGA.zip ]

Tested with WinUAE 0.8.8 r8, i've included a working config file in the zip.

Can anybody upload this game on ftp again? I need the 4 disk aga version (fairlight with hd installer). this side is already down. :(

greez

[Adderly]

yes please, someone zone it! @Tosec still one of the disks (Disk 2 of 4) from the AGA version is missing!

[andref4]

Yes, thats the reason why I´m posting it. One Disk in TOSEC is missing.

I have Body Blows AGA WHDload version as a .zip file (no adfs). But if it´s possible to get the fairlight version, I´ll send infos to idoru to add the missing disk to tosec db.

regards from germany

[Qube]

I have a set of this, but I'm not sure if it is complete or correct. I may have converted it from the original DMS files, can't recall.

But my disks are :

Disk 1, CRC=09686243 TOSEC=Body Blows (1993)(Team 17)(Disk 2 of 4)[b]
Disk 2, CRC=B2D1EF28 TOSEC=Body Blows (1994)(Team 17)(AGA)(Disk 3 of 4)(2)[cr FLT]
Disk 3, CRC=B0B09274 TOSEC=Body Blows (1994)(Team 17)(AGA)(Disk 4 of 4)(3)[cr FLT]
Disk 4 + Boot, CRC=AB536121 TOSEC=no entry

However I can't get it to run in WinUAE, so it could be broken.

Q;

[Qube]

I found these on an old CD today, would they help anyone?

BODYBL0A.DMS P 252754 04-21-95 Body Blows (AGA) -FROM- TEAM 17! DiSK [0a/3]
BODYBL0B.DMS P 132789 04-21-95 Body Blows (AGA) -FROM- TEAM 17! DiSK [0b/3]
BODYBL1A.DMS P 384094 04-21-95 Body Blows (AGA) -FROM- TEAM 17! DiSK [1a/3]
BODYBL1B.DMS P 441115 04-21-95 Body Blows (AGA) -FROM- TEAM 17! DiSK [1b/3]
BODYBL2A.DMS P 428300 04-21-95 Body Blows (AGA) -FROM- TEAM 17! DiSK [2a/3]
BODYBL2B.DMS P 425748 04-21-95 Body Blows (AGA) -FROM- TEAM 17! DiSK [2b/3]
BODYBL3A.DMS P 437061 04-21-95 Body Blows (AGA) -FROM- TEAM 17! DiSK [3a/3]
BODYBL3B.DMS P 438710 04-21-95 Body Blows (AGA) -FROM- TEAM 17! DiSK [3b/3]

[Adderly]

This is great Qube! Can you zone the dms files? :bowdown

[Qube]

I've put this in the zone. I don't really know if this set of 8 DMS files is the actual full unmodified FLT release, I'm sure this is the set I converted into ADF once and tosec did not like it. Still, if someone can confirm it / test it out.

[Mad-Matt]

Ive upped the WHD version of the game if thats of any interest to anyone

[Belgarath]

Thanks Qube, after I turned them into adf's they worked great.
Disk 2 and 3 match the ones in tosec, the boot disk has a different crc.

Now am I missing them from my collection or is Body Blows Galactic AGA not in tosec at all? And if so can anyone help?

[Ultron]

Yeah if there isn't a TOSEC with full disks, someone should make it so, why was this one refused? does it work?

[Adderly]

Tosec was missing the disk#2 and Qube's disk#1 is an alt.
The new disks zoned by Qube will be renamed to:

dms name (all files joined): BODYBL0.dms
new at Tosec as: Body Blows (1994)(Team 17)(AGA)(Disk 1 of 4)(Boot & Disk 4)[cr FLT][a].adf AB536121

dms name: BODYBL1.dms
new at Tosec as: Body Blows (1994)(Team 17)(AGA)(Disk 2 of 4)(1)[cr FLT].adf 09686243

dms name: BODYBL2.dms
already at Tosec as: Body Blows (1994)(Team 17)(AGA)(Disk 3 of 4)(2)[cr FLT].adf B2D1EF28

dms name: BODYBL3.dms
already at Tosec as: Body Blows (1994)(Team 17)(AGA)(Disk 4 of 4)(3)[cr FLT].adf B0B09274

Thanks Qube, seems now we have BB AGA complete! :great

[Belgarath]

Personally I'd name qube's as the main boot disk and the existing tosec disk as the alt.

And please lets not forget Body Blows Galactic AGA which to the best of my knowledge is totally missing in adf form.

[Qube]

Glad to be of help. Was there ever a floppy version of BB GAL AGA? Or a crack for that matter?

I've had a quick look through my old archives and haven't spotted it.

Regards the BB AGA set, has anyone play tested this? I ran it in uae but it seemed to stop on the Vs screen after selecting fighters; could have been my uae settings at fault possibly..

Q;

[Belgarath]

There's definitely a floppy ver of BB GAL AGA, we have sps images of it, I've no idea if there was ever a crack of it though, although you'd think someone would have cracked it surely.

I'll have another try of BB AGA as i only tried it in 1p mode.


edit: tried it in 2p mode and it worked fine.

[andref4]

I've put this in the zone. I don't really know if this set of 8 DMS files is the actual full unmodified FLT release, I'm sure this is the set I converted into ADF once and tosec did not like it. Still, if someone can confirm it / test it out.

I have extracted the 8 dms files with xdms into adf files and it worked. But files are not in tosec but eventually in next version!?

thanks for files

[andref4]

Glad to be of help. Was there ever a floppy version of BB GAL AGA? Or a crack for that matter?

I've had a quick look through my old archives and haven't spotted it.

Regards the BB AGA set, has anyone play tested this? I ran it in uae but it seemed to stop on the Vs screen after selecting fighters; could have been my uae settings at fault possibly..

Q;

If you need BB Gal AGA I have it! It is already in tosec but has a wrong name.
And yesterday I found Body Blows AGA 3 disk ipf on a frech amiga side, seems that this files are made from original disks and they are in tosec too. now i can play the game from ipf/adf and whd *gg*

[Adderly]

@andref4: The Boot disk and Disk 2 are new, the others are already in Tosec. Ofcourse the new adf's will be added to Tosec! :agree

@Belgarath: Body Blows Galactic AGA and non-AGA are on the Fairlight 10ys CD, together with BB AGA. I'll have a look on those soon while i rename the files from this CD. I'm done with year 1990 and Body Blows comes in 1994...:)

[andref4]

@andref4: The Boot disk and Disk 2 are new, the others are already in Tosec. Ofcourse the new adf's will be added to Tosec! :agree



Hmm,

I can´t confirm this.

I´ve merged the 8 adf files with total comamnder (thx for tip, copy /b dont work correctly) and TIM found 3 files of it.

By me only the Body Blows (1994)(Team 17)(AGA)(Disk 1 of 4)(Boot & Disk 4)[cr FLT][a].adf is new. All other 3 disks TIM added to the database!? Can anybody confirm this? That means that disk 2 of 4 is in db but has a wrong name...

regards
andref4

[Adderly]

*checking*

The Disk#2 is already in Tosec as:
Body Blows (1993)(Team 17)(Disk 2 of 4)[b].adf 09686243
Sure the [b] was right if you try it with the ECS version coz it was the AGA version...
I'll rename it properly for the next Tosec dat's...

Thanks andref4! :agree

Edit: Done! http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=262039&postcount=164

[Adderly]

I have never heard about a version of Body Blows for AGA machines. What I do know is that the original ECS Body Blows (released around february 1993) got an update in the end of 1993.
In this enhanced version the characters moved much smoother, had shadows displayed under them and disc access time was faster. Buyers of the original Body Blows could upgrade to the enhanced version just by sending the bootdisc to Team 17. (I have got this information from a CU Amiga magazine). Interesting post! :agree
I just read the German mag Amiga Joker #7/1993 and this enhanced (3 disks and for OCS/ECS) version is mentioned too. The shadows are mentioned, faster sprite moving etc. In single player mode you can now disable the time limit and modify the numer of rounds. Also you can now choice from 10 Fighters instead of 4 in Single Player mode.
You can get the update by sending disk 1 to Team17, like mentioned by Tim Jannsen. Newer sold versions of BB should have the update included.
Well, HOL has no informations on this enhanced version since Ultima Body Blows was CD32 only! I don't think it's BB Galactic either (since this has 2 disks) or BB AGA! If anyone knows more about this update please post!
Meanwhile i'll have a look at the existing Tosec disks, maybe one of the alt's have the update included.

[Jimbo]

Body Blows Galactic (1993)(Team 17)[cr FLT](Disk 1 of 3).zip
Body Blows Galactic (1993)(Team 17)[cr FLT](Disk 2 of 3).zip
Body Blows Galactic (1993)(Team 17)[cr FLT](Disk 3 of 3)(Boot).zip
Body Blows Galactic (1993)(Team 17)[cr FLT](Disk 3 of 3)[a](Boot).zip
Body Blows Galactic (1993)(Team 17)[cr FLT](Disk 3 of 3)[h GOD](Boot).zip
Body Blows Galactic (1993)(Team 17)[cr FLT](Disk 3 of 3)[t +8ATX](Boot).zip
Body Blows Galactic (1993)(Team 17)[cr FLT][a](Disk 1 of 3).zip
Body Blows Galactic (1993)(Team 17)[cr FLT][a](Disk 2 of 3).zip
Body Blows Galactic (1993)(Team 17)[cr FLT][a](Disk 3 of 3)(Boot).zip

But it doesnt say AGA so im guessing not.

[killergorilla]

Interesting post! :agree
I just read the German mag Amiga Joker #7/1993 and this enhanced (3 disks and for OCS/ECS) version is mentioned too. The shadows are mentioned, faster sprite moving etc. In single player mode you can now disable the time limit and modify the numer of rounds. Also you can now choice from 10 Fighters instead of 4 in Single Player mode.
You can get the update by sending disk 1 to Team17, like mentioned by Tim Jannsen. Newer sold versions of BB should have the update included.
Well, HOL has no informations on this enhanced version since Ultima Body Blows was CD32 only! I don't think it's BB Galactic either (since this has 2 disks) or BB AGA! If anyone knows more about this update please post!
Meanwhile i'll have a look at the existing Tosec disks, maybe one of the alt's have the update included.

Just seems a bit of a coincidence that the AGA version has all of those additions... anyone tried using disk 1 of the aga version with disk 2/3 of the ECS/OCS?

[JonSick]

I have this!!!

I don't have an amiga or any way to transfer it right now. Dug out my old Ami disks from my folks place.

I know its defiantely AGA only as it didn't go for my mate's A500 back in the day! Came up IIRC with an error about it not being an A1200.

Its 3 disks.

As soon as I can I will find a way to get it to ya, but you may be in for a wait!

Jon

[woody.cool]

Well i have Body Blows Galactic (which seems to be only AGA) but it comes on three disks, while Body Blows AGA should be on four disks (the last one being the install disk).

I have this version cracked by Fairlight, but unfortunately the dms of the first disk gives an error (at least on the emulator) so i'll check tonight at home and if it works i'll put it on the ADFZone.

No, actually Body Blows Galactic exists in OCS/ECS and a seperate AGA version.

As for Body Blows AGA (non-galactic) I believe it's proper name is Body Blows Enhanced and has a similar in-game interface as Ultimate Body Blows (CD32)

If your unsure about which version you need - go on the Dream17 web-site, they have permission to distribute all of Team17's games! They'll probably have it!

[Adderly]

From the Dream17 Website:

Body Blows:
Two versions of the original Body Blows were released. The first was an ECS/OCS version in which only 4 characters were selectable. The second of which bore a closer similarity to Ultimate Body Blows but only featured the characters from the first game (none of the Body Blows Galactic characters). I believe the second version was released to tie in with the release of Ultimate Body Blows, which had been a CD³² exclusive.

Ultimate Body Blows:
The definitive version of Body Blows, featuring all of the fighters from both the original Body Blows and Body Blows Galactic, was released only for the Amiga CD³² and PC (although the original Body Blows was re-released for AGA Amigas in a revamped edition)....

Seems the updated version of BB was/is for AGA only? So CU Amiga and Amiga Joker were wrong with their ECS statements??? I can't believe this.
:crazy

The version of BB you can download from them is the original release, cracked by Interpol...
Seems the enhanced version is very rare.