Setting up Miami for using 3Com LAN card

[manicx]

Okay guys, I was given for free a 3Com EtherLink III PCMCIA card, model 3C589C for free (and I also have access to a 3C589D). I think, I 've heard once that such a card can be easily set up in Amiga using Miami. I am registered user of Miami, although I haven't use it since 99 :D ! I think Miami Dx can also be used but I am not sure if I will still be registered.

Anyway, all I need is a recommendation of an application to setup networking in my A1200 and whether I will need any special setup of IBrowse based on my setup. I've been succesfully using my A4k to connect to the internet using a modem, but never used my A1200 in a LAN. This is a big challenge for me, since I will present the Amiga in my work, to many windoze/linux gurus and I just need to impress them. :cool

Thanx in advance...

[thomas]

I don't know if this special network card is supported, but in order to use a PCMCIA network card in general, you need the cnet.device and perhaps a fix for the hardware fault of the A1200.

http://www.aminet.net/aminet.cgi?string=cnetdevice
http://www.aminet.net/aminet.cgi?string=cardreset
http://www.aminet.net/aminet.cgi?string=cardpatch

Then it is very easy to set up Miami. Just install a new Ethernet LAN interface and configure your IP address, network mask, default gateway and DNS and there you go.

No special config is needed for IBrowse or other programs.

Well, if you also want to share files in your LAN, you need Samba and SMBFS or SMB-Connect in addition. But this is another story.

http://www.amigasamba.org/
http://www.dmbsoft.de/

Note that Samba needs a lot of CPU power and much RAM is recommended, too.

[Echo]

There's actually a specific device for this card, 3c589.device (http://brad.plig.net/pub/aminet/hard/drivr/3c589.lha). Works fine for me.

[manicx]

SO all I need to do is install this driver and use Miami's GUI to set up the above parameters? This sounds reasonable. I have miami registered so this ain't bad!

So actually, using the device that echo posted (thanks) I will be able to have web access ONLY (?). For file sharing from both the Amiga and PC side (Amiga sees PC resources and PCs see Amiga resources) I need Samba...

[Echo]

Well, I've only got as far as being able to ping my PC box and vice versa (through a router) :lol

I really need to sit down at some point and get my teeth into it. Ideally I'd love Web/IRC/FTP access on the Amiga and several shared drives between Amiga and PC.

The command-line applications for drive sharing are rather off-putting though!

[manicx]

Did you use the same LAN card and Miami then? I suppose that once the card is detected and Miami is set, you should have at least web access (well that's what it is supposed to happen in theory, but real life is always another story)...

[thomas]

Yes, it should be as easy like that.

Samba is not that hard either. Just thoroughly follow the INSTALL text. It is only a lot of finger work creating all the needed entries in Miami's database.

[ant512]

Originally posted by manicx
Did you use the same LAN card and Miami then? I suppose that once the card is detected and Miami is set, you should have at least web access (well that's what it is supposed to happen in theory, but real life is always another story)...

Bwahaha! It's not that easy. Really not that easy.

To get net access via a LAN with your Amiga, you will need either a LAN router or another computer set up as a gateway. Assuming the latter, and assuming you're running Windows (2K and XP Pro can be set up as routers out of the box, whilst other versions require additional routing and proxying software), you're going to have to configure both Miami and Windows.

Routing through Windows is a nightmare to set up properly - the OS claims you have to switch to DHCP instead of static IP addresses, but I vaguely remember getting static IPs to work (with the Amiga, anyway - other Windows PCs wouldn't work when given static IPs).

Once you've got Miami set up, you'll be able to ping your PC. Anything else requires vast amounts of work. It took me about 6 hours to get Samba working, and more tweaking afterwards to get it working reliably. It took days to get routing set up, mostly because Windows is an arse (and I kept forgetting to disable my firewall). Then, of course, the modem stopped working with the Amiga (initially set up as the router), so I had to make the PC the router - another few hours of work...

[ant512]

Samba isn't that easy to set up, especially as the documentation is out of date. And a lot of it makes no sense, which doesn't help either.

[Echo]

Originally posted by manicx
Did you use the same LAN card and Miami then? I suppose that once the card is detected and Miami is set, you should have at least web access (well that's what it is supposed to happen in theory, but real life is always another story)... If only. I had to manually input the router's IP, and my wanted Amiga IP - but IBrowse was having none of it.

The light (10mbit) is lit on the router, so physically it's all connected, but Miami is far from self-configuring.

I didn't get much further than that due to frustration.

[manicx]

Thanks for the feedback guys. Basically, I will let the network administrator in my work do the stuff with windoze. I will do the Amiga stuff. So, I hope we can get LAN to work with Amiga. It's not that I see something innovative, it's just me wanting to demonstrate to windoze and linux gurus that Amigas have no limits...

[Echo]

Originally posted by manicx
Thanks for the feedback guys. Basically, I will let the network administrator in my work do the stuff with windoze. I will do the Amiga stuff. So, I hope we can get LAN to work with Amiga. It's not that I see something innovative, it's just me wanting to demonstrate to windoze and linux gurus that Amigas have no limits... The fact is though, Windows is light years ahead of Amiga with networking now. My sister recently purchased a Dell with XP, plugged her CAT5 cable in from my router and it configured everything automatically. XP had no idea beforehand it was even going to have access through a router.

Web access, instant messengers etc were all working without a single bit of user interaction.

Almost as quick with Windows 2000, simply needing to put the router IP in the gateway. IP is assigned, and everything works instantly.

[manicx]

Classic Amiga is lacking in hardware comparing to modern PCs and in many cases in software (when used with old h/w) but it is the same story like games. Hard to do 3D but not impossible.

[RetroMan]

If you only want to mount any shared folders of a PeCe on your Miggy, you may want to try out SMB-Connect (http://www.dmbsoft.de/) :)

It´s really easy to set up and you do not have to fiddle around with a nasty and painfull SAMBA Installation :D

Perfect tool for data exchange, only limitation is that you cannot "see" your Miggy HD from within Windoze but that really shouldn´t be a problem :p

[manicx]

Well, I have the tools to exchange stuff between Amiga and PC, but I am really keen on doing the LAN thing. It is a challenge for me since it is one of the few things that I haven't done with a Miggy.

[Echo]

I've downloaded IBrowse 2.3 today in the hope it'll be more friendly to my network.

Does anyone have some really simple instructions to get this working under Miami DX running into a router via 3COM PCMCIA card?

(Miami DX and said card are already functioning correctly as far as I know.)

[ant512]

Originally posted by Echo
I've downloaded IBrowse 2.3 today in the hope it'll be more friendly to my network.

Does anyone have some really simple instructions to get this working under Miami DX running into a router via 3COM PCMCIA card?

(Miami DX and said card are already functioning correctly as far as I know.)

Once you get Miami DX running properly, all Amiga browsers will work - they just interface with the BSDSocket.library (not actually a file - it is emulated by the TCP stack). You don't need to configure the browser. If IBrowse doesn't work, you haven't finished setting Miami DX up yet.

[Echo]

Hmm, maybe it isn't set up correctly then.

Mind you I was trying a very old version (1.2 if memory serves) of IBrowse. Could have been compatible with dialup connections only or something.

I don't know why I'm bothering to be honest, it's going to be completely horrible at 640x512, 64 colours. Download speeds will be interesting though (1mbit line).

[Echo]

No joy I'm afraid. I can get into the router's web configurator with IBrowse, so all hardware and cable is at least working.

But a public website called by domain or IP refuses to load.

I can also ping the router and PC from the Amiga.

:confused

[thomas]

Originally posted by Echo
No joy I'm afraid. I can get into the router's web configurator with IBrowse, so all hardware and cable is at least working.

But a public website called by domain or IP refuses to load.

I can also ping the router and PC from the Amiga.

:confused

I don't see why you find it so difficult to configure your network.

Here are step-by-step instructions for MiamiDeluxe.

The values are taken from my config, so you should adjust them.

You need the following data:

- The name of your ethernet driver (e.g. DEVS:Networks/via_rhinepci.device)
- The IP address of your router (e.g. 192.168.1.254)
- The IP address you want to dedicate to your Amiga (e.g. 192.168.1.6)
- The IP address of your ISP's DNS server (e.g. 194.25.2.129)

Then start MiamiDx without a config and follow these steps:

Hardware
New
Ethernet
Name = MyNetworkCard
Type = SANA-II
Driver = DEVS:Networks/via_rhinepci.device
Unit = 0
SANA-II parameters
Query device
Ok
Ok
Interfaces
New
Ethernet
LAN
Ok
MyNetworkCard
Ok
IP address = 192.168.1.6
Netmask = 255.255.255.0
Gateway Pri = 1
Gateway = 192.168.1.254
GUI default = Yes
Ok
Database
DNS servers
Add
IP address = 194.25.2.129
Online
Save Settings

I hope this helps.

[Echo]

I'm fairly experienced with Windows networks, this just seems really long winded.

Thanks for the step by step guide - I think I see the problem. "Gateway Pri" and "Gateway" are ghosted out on my screen. However, I know I've put the gateway in somewhere and it must be aware of that, because I can get in the router's web configurator as I've mentioned.

But perhaps it means IBrowse is somehow blocked from it.

Why would these settings be ghosted?

Thanks.

[thomas]

Originally posted by Echo
I'm fairly experienced with Windows networks, this just seems really long winded.

Thanks for the step by step guide - I think I see the problem. "Gateway Pri" and "Gateway" are ghosted out on my screen. However, I know I've put the gateway in somewhere and it must be aware of that, because I can get in the router's web configurator as I've mentioned.

But perhaps it means IBrowse is somehow blocked from it.

Why would these settings be ghosted?

Thanks.


If pri is 0 the gateway IP is ghosted. Change it to 1 and it will become available.

If pri is ghosted too, you've got a problem :cool

[Echo]

Gahhh, that's all it was :eek

Working fine now, I'm surfing with the miggy :D

Edit: And this was typed on it. Screen is really cramped at 640x480, and some buttons are all over the place but it's pretty cool anyway :)

[Echo]

Also got SMB-Connect up too now :)

Not quite as bad as I thought setting up. It's rather flakey though, often locks up the A1200 after a few transfers.

Still, it'll only be the odd file. I figure I'll still backup to zip disk else I won't have network support to restore if I backup to a PC drive.

Oh and Aminet is pulling 118KB/s down with IBrowse :lol

[Chaeo]

(snip...)
IP address = 194.25.2.129
Online
Save Settings

I hope this helps.

Thanks for this, had MiamiDX up and running perfectly within a couple of minutes. I originally never bothered with it as the Config program in Miami
always got so far and then went 'busy pointer' forever, so it wouldn't complete. Doing it manually in main Miami was fine though. I had previously been using Genesis, but no matter what I did with it I was getting error messages even though it worked. Miami doesn't bitch at all and loads/starts faster.:) :great

[Halvare]

I don't see why you find it so difficult to configure your network.

Here are step-by-step instructions for MiamiDeluxe.

The values are taken from my config, so you should adjust them.

You need the following data:

- The name of your ethernet driver (e.g. DEVS:Networks/via_rhinepci.device)
- The IP address of your router (e.g. 192.168.1.254)
- The IP address you want to dedicate to your Amiga (e.g. 192.168.1.6)
- The IP address of your ISP's DNS server (e.g. 194.25.2.129)

Then start MiamiDx without a config and follow these steps:

Hardware
New
Ethernet
Name = MyNetworkCard
Type = SANA-II
Driver = DEVS:Networks/via_rhinepci.device
Unit = 0
SANA-II parameters
Query device
Ok
Ok
Interfaces
New
Ethernet
LAN
Ok
MyNetworkCard
Ok
IP address = 192.168.1.6
Netmask = 255.255.255.0
Gateway Pri = 1
Gateway = 192.168.1.254
GUI default = Yes
Ok
Database
DNS servers
Add
IP address = 194.25.2.129
Online
Save Settings

I hope this helps.

HI THERE,
Was looking at this guide and mine willn't work :/
I grabbed a 10Mbps pc card off ebay which had a cur down version of amitcp/ip and a ftp client to pc server. It uses the 3c589.device for a 3com 3CCE5589EC PC card.

The problem I get is when I query the card in the hardware section I get a error ( Miami Deluxe is unable to open SANA-II device "DEVS:Networks/3c589.device' Unit 0"

Anyone have any ideas, as all my amiga know how run out over 10 years ago :/

Thanks...

[thomas]

Have you copied 3c589.device to Devs:Networks ? Have you installed Cardpatch and Cardreset (see links in my first post) ? Does the network light go on when you connect the computers ? Do you use a correct cable ? For connecting two computers you need a cross-over cable while to connect a computer to a hub/switch/router you need a normal network cable.

[Shrub]

I'm having problems too. I'm using a 3Com card, all it's drivers are set up properly and the ethernet light on the DSL/router is active so it must be connected. Cardpatch and cardreset are in the startup-sequence.
I've assigned the Amiga's IP as 192.168.1.6 and assigned NAT virtual server/DMZ to the same IP with 60 as the rule
Net mask is 255.255.255.0,
Gateway is 192.168.1.1 - router's ethernet port IP

Apparently the DNS servers for this are 192.168.1.1 (and 192.168.1.2 - USB IP address for PC) but I get the error message "Your IP address cannot be resolved so Miami has to fall back to you IP address as your host name..."
And when I try to load google up in IBrowse I get "Host lookup failed, no DNS entry found" or "Network is unreachable".

The diagnostic light on the router/DSL turns on now and again when I set Miami to online, but when I turn the modem off and on it goes back to normal - with the ethernet light blinking as though data is being transmitted from modem to amiga.
I can't even access the modem's configuration page on http://192.168.1.1 through the Amiga.

Edit: I've tried BTinternet's DNS servers:
194.73.73.172
194.73.73.173
194.72.9.44
but they don't seem to workth. I need the BTYahoo ones but I can't find the buggers

[thomas]

and assigned NAT virtual server/DMZ to the same IP


Do *not* do this unless you want to run a web server on your Amiga. These options expose your Amiga to the internet. Although amigaOS/Miami don't have as much security issues as Windows, a few are still there and they won't be closed because nobody is working on these programs any more.


Your IP address cannot be resolved so Miami has to fall back to you IP address as your host name...


Enter a host name on Miami's TCP/IP page.


"Host lookup failed, no DNS entry found"


Enter the IP addresses of you DNS severs to Miami's Database


"Network is unreachable".


Check that Miami is online. Check with MiamiPing if there is a connection to the router and to the DNS addresses.

[Shrub]

Host name is ComB, it was defaultuser or something like that, neither seem to work.
I've added the BT internet DNS servers to the database, as well as the 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.2 that my windows ipconfig settings claim.

In the commandline I wrote "Miamiping 192.168.1.1" and it comes back with:
PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1): 56 data bytes
ping: wrote 192.168.1.1 64 chars, ret=-1 - repeated about every second ad infinitum

[thomas]

ping: wrote 192.168.1.1 64 chars, ret=-1


That means that you don't even have a connection to the router. You don't need to care about DNS or host names before you get this working.

Check the router's config, if there is some kind of packet filter or a list of allowed IP addresses which rejects your Amiga.

Which kind of cable do you use ? You may not use a cross-over cable if you connect to a hub/switch/router.

Did the network card properly read its MAC address (in Hardware / MyNetworkCard / SANA-II parameters / Query device) ? If it reads as FF:FF:FF:FF or something similar, it is broken.

Isn't there a light on the network card ?

The lights on both ends of the cable should be on and not blinking if no data is sent. They should blink once for every ping.

[Shrub]

It's quite a terrible modem/router I have. It's the BT Voyager 205 and there many threads about with people having problems with it when it comes to anything other than IBM style PCs lol

There's an IP filter on my modem, which just has basic settings - off, med, and high. It's currently on high, but, I've set my Amiga's IP address to that of the computer in the other room (not currently plugged in), so I can't see why it would be blocking there.
The IP pool is 192.168.1.3 to 192.168.1.34 under DHCP.

The MAC address is 08:92:A9:81, and it's using a standard patch cable. There's no LED on the card so I can't see if it's activated that way, but it must be connected because the ethernet light activates on the modem when I select "online" in Miami. The light flickers now and again which usually means some sort of communication between devices.

The modem has a rudimentary firewall built in. I can't imagine this causing any problems, again considering I'm using another machine's working IP, but I might disable it anyway.

There's an option in the Voyager 205's IP routing config for DNS servers. There's no entries in it though. I'm presuming because my PC is working with the net this isn't important though.

[thomas]

The IP pool is 192.168.1.3 to 192.168.1.34 under DHCP.

You should use an address outside the DHCP pool to avoid duplicates.


I've set my Amiga's IP address to that of the computer in the other room (not currently plugged in), so I can't see why it would be blocking there.

My router maintains a list of MAC addresses and IP addresses. So if there suddenly is another computer (another MAC address) with the same IP address it could be blocked.



The light flickers now and again which usually means some sort of communication between devices.

Is there another computer (Windows PC) connected to the router ? Then it probably tries to refresh its Network Neighbourhood regularly.

[Shrub]

I'll try another IP in a bit, but as far as I can tell there's no protection over MAC in the modem's config pages. The PC uses a seperate light - The router has 2 inputs, one for regular network cables, and another for USB which the PC uses, essentially an internal USB nic in the modem. I'll write down all my settings for MiamiDX later, if everything's set correctly on there then it'll definitely be the router - and theres a fair bit of info online about that - mostly about the damn thing overheating lol - the main chip on mine is already running about 80°c and that's pretty normal!

Thanks so far, Thomas.

[Shrub]

Ok, I've checked the settings on the other PC and it turns out I was using the wrong mask - I was supposed to be using 255.0.0.0, and I've also turned the DCHP server on. I'm not getting any DNS errors now and no messages regarding host name, but, I still can't ping the router.
The card I'm using is 3C589D-TP, which I think is compatible

[Shrub]

This is driving me nuts now. Could someone give me a list of all the settings for Miami - for all it's pages - TCP/IP settings, SOCKs etc please?

I've also tried MiamiInit - for the IP, netmask, gateway it couldn't automatically find suitable values, I had to type them in manually.

[thomas]

Well, at this state I'd first check if the network card really works. Therfore I would connect a device which I know to be working to it and use a configuration I know to be working. For example I'd get a cross-over cable and connect a Windows PC directly to the Amiga. Then I'd configure both computers like this: PC: DHCP disabled, IP = 1.1.1.1, mask = 0.0.0.0, gateway = 2.2.2.2 and Amiga: IP = 2.2.2.2, mask = 0.0.0.0, gateway = 1.1.1.1. Then ping from PC to Amiga and vice versa and perhaps use some TCP/IP softwares I know to be working (you need a daemon on on one computer and a client on the other). If you run WinUAE or have two Amigas it would be quite easy to type copy tcp:999 to ram:xxx on one Amiga and copy s:startup-sequence to tcp:1.1.1.1/999 on the other Amiga just to check if data can be copied.

After the network card has passed this check, I would then try some configurations with the router. E.g. I would configure a PC exactly like the Amiga would be configured (e.g. DHCP disabled, static IP address, mask and gatway).

To get a clean Miami config, delete the miami.defaults file and recreate the config from scratch. See my step-by-step instructions above. Settings not mentioned there are not changed.

[Shrub]

I'll give that a shot, I have a crossover cable somewhere.

So does WinUAE have networking capabilities in that it'll make use of any NIC set up for Windows? If so I can test if it is the router to blame for this directly, which I really think it is.

I've just ordered a cheap PC from ebay which I can use to test the Amiga with also, and I'm currently thinking about making it into a pseudo siemese system with my Amiga, I'd have the benefit of a networks harddrive and CDROM, but it'll bugger up my completely noise free plan (at least for the moment until I can find a cheapo noiseless <200w PSU and a decent amount of memory so I can use the space IDE-CF adaptor and disable the swapfile. Is it safe to power an Amiga from it's floppy power connector btw?)

What daemon/client software for both PC and Amiga do you recommend?

DHCP disabled? I've tried both ways on the Amiga, but the PC in the other room has DHCP activated.

Oh, I could also buy a PCI PCMCIA card for my PC, but it's a bit of a needless expense considering I'm only using it to test the NIC.

Cheers again

[thomas]

So does WinUAE have networking capabilities in that it'll make use of any NIC set up for Windows? If so I can test if it is the router to blame for this directly, which I really think it is.


No, it does not have access to the NIC. It only has a TCP/IP wrapper, which makes Amiga programs able to access the Windows' IP stack. You cannot prove anything Amiga-related with this solution. If Windows manages to go online, WinUAE is online either and if Windows fails, UAE is offline, too.


Is it safe to power an Amiga from it's floppy power connector btw?)


Don't know. But I wouldn't dare it. IMHO you should always go into the main power connector and *additionally* to the floppy port.


What daemon/client software for both PC and Amiga do you recommend?


Don't know. I never needed one. My router always responded at the first try. The TCP: method works, though. Although I think on WinUAE you first have to install a TCP-Handler for it to work. You can use the one coming with Genesis or AmiTCP.


DHCP disabled? I've tried both ways on the Amiga, but the PC in the other room has DHCP activated.


If a PC can connect with exactly the same settings as the Amiga then I don't see any reason why the Amiga should not be able to connect with the very same settings. AFAIK the IP protocol does not allow to guess the operating system at this low level.


Oh, I could also buy a PCI PCMCIA card for my PC


That would be overkill. If you can connect to another PC through the cross-over cable, then the NIC is ok. And if it doesn't work it is almost sure that the NIC is not compatible.

[Shrub]

Looks like I'm out of luck. I've tried two NICs on my PC, initially tried 2.2.2.2, 1.1.1.1 and 255.0.0.0 (wouldn't accept 0.0.0.0), then I tried 192.168.0.2, 192.168.0.3, and 255.255.0.0, but pinging from either machine failed on all attempts
There is a light on the PCMCIA NIC - actually on the dongle's plug.
It says in the 3com driver's guide that the 3C589D is compatible, so I have no idea where it's failing. My PCMCIA slot works alright as far as I know because my Squirrel functions properly. Probably is a duff card :(

Cheers for everything anyway.

Were there any drivers for SCSI NICs made for the Amiga do you know?

[Shrub]

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[lopos2000]

Have you bought the 3Com Card? I have this card with the dongle and it's working on my A1200 with MiamiDX.

[Shrub]

that's the card i have in the post above yours lopos.

[lopos2000]

Than it should work with MiamiDX.

[Shrub]

Lopos, if I send you my card could you see if you can get it to work on your Amiga, please? I'll pay for postage - I seem to have an infinite supply of stamps lol

[Shrub]

I've just been looking at the 3C589.device and found these:
card.resource
utility.library
pccard.library
timer.device

Pccard.library is in my libs folder, the others can't be found though, but they look like they're part of the Kickstart. Am I right in thinking this?

[lopos2000]

No problem Shrub, send me the card and I test it for you. Don't know about the libs.

[Shrub]

Cheers, I'll probably post it tommorrow.

[DanE]

Right im a complete novice when it comes to networking,

Ive got a netear ma401 card, Netgear wireless router attached to laptop.

Ive installed miami 32b, in the interface settings ive put in,

Interface type - SANA-II Ethernet
driver prism2.device

iptype - 192.168.0.5 (not being used on any other computer)
netmask type - 255.255.255.0
gateway type ??? what do i put here?????

my router has encryption but i cant see anywhere on miami to put in the encryption key.

Anyone help??

[ancalimon]

gateway type ??? what do i put here?????

Anyone help??

gateway type should be the ip adress you enter in your browser to enter your modems setup.
ie: my usrobotics' is 192.168.1.1 by default.

[DanE]

thanks,

Ive done that and then clicked connect and miami says it is connected,

Then if i search for available wireless networks on my laptop there is a new network detected called Non Spec,

if i connect to that it connects but it says aquiring ip address and if i click properties it says invalid ip address and then after a short while it automatically assigns an ip address which is completly different from the one i picked and i still cant browse the web of use amiga explorer

is there any way of connecting the amiga directly to my router instead of to my laptop.

[Jimbo]

Not sure really how you have set it up. But ip's ie 192.168.1.1 all the way upto 192.168.1.99 will be dynamic. 192.168.1.100 upwards will be static IP's.

Just wondering if you have setup the DHCP correct as DHCP gives out the dynamic IPS.

Might be worth a little look.

Cause it would say connected even if the IP isnt setup right but you wont be able to surf etc.

[Peter]

You need DNS servers set to browse the web...

I have a Zoom ADSL Modem/Router (not Wireless) connected to a hub...
I then have my PC and my A1200 connected to the hub via ethernet cables... I have both Miami DX and Genesis configured with static IP address, gateway and DNS server address in the configuration.
I dont need the PC turned on to use the Amiga on the internet - just need the router powered up...
Never tried wireless on an Amiga.

Does your router have an ethernet port?

[DanE]

I seem to be getting somewere,

Using the setprism2default command i put in the ssid name and key,

miami now automatically assigns the ip address by dhcp, so it seems as though it is working, however when i use aweb and try and look at www.google.com (http://www.google.com) it comes up with error cannot connect to www.google.com (http://www.google.com)

is there anyway i can check and see if my amiga is connected to my wireless router

[Peter]

I'm not too sure about the wireless side having never done it but you need to establish whether your amiga is actually talking to the router probably by pinging it (miami has a cli ping command I think - you may need to read the miami docs) can you ping your amiga from your pc?
It sounds like the Amiga is getting an ip address but the fact that Aweb cant browse is a sure sign that the amiga does not know what dns server to use for acccess to the net - check miami set up for dns entry?
Were you asked for dns details when setting up miami?

My dns entry in miami is just my router gateway 10.10.10.2

Hope this helps a bit - come on guys - are we getting warm here??

[DanE]

How do i find out what ip address the router has assigned the Amiga?

Is there a ipconfig command like on the pc?,

Once i know the amiga's ip address can i ping it using my laptop? Even though the laptop isnt directly connected to the Amiga.

Cheers

Edit

This is really pissing me off now,

Right ive try a adhoc , Ive set up a wireless adhoc connection on my pc called it Amiga and set a wep key, then in shell ive put Setprism2defaults SSID Amiga Key XXXXXXXXXX Adhoc, Then on miami in interfaces i put in sana 2, Change drive to prism2.device, Queried device which works ok, Then i put in a ip address thats not being used on the network and 255.255.255.0 as netmask and 192.168.0.1 as gateway, Then i click connect, Miami connects straight away, Then on the pc the Amiga network springs into life and connects but it always says limited connectivity,if i look under network properties it says ipv4 and ipv6 limited connectivity, Tried pinging from pc to amiga but no joy,

ALso tried to connect direct to the router, setprism2defaults SSID Netgear key XXXXXXXX, Same settings above accept i leave the ip,netmask and gateway as dhcp click connect and it connects instantly, So it must be getting the info from the modem, still it wont connect to the internet.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[kriz]

I would try with static IP adress set first. Then you know what IP
adress wich machine have (and always the same). And I would use
MiamiDX for this on the Amiga. When you have a static adress for all
machines, on same subnet (192.168.0.XX). Then do a ping from the Amiga
to the pc and vice versa.


But for the internet for the Amiga I would just set up Internet
sharing in Windowze, and connect through it. It have to be on, when
you want to use internet.. But its ok, and not a too hard to do
solution.

[DanE]

UPDATE

Thanks for everyones help i sorted it out.



Finally im getting somewhere,

Ive installed miami dx
ive successfully connected to the router
ive successfully pinged the Amiga using my laptop
ive successfully pinged the router using the Amiga

Cant ping the pc ip address from the amiga though,

Amiga Explorer connects fine,

Still cant access the internet using AWeb,

Why is this, I know the Amiga is connected to the router so why cant i surf?


UPDATE

Just installed Ibrowse, When i try and search using google it says "no dns entry found"

Any idea's