a600 on an laptop screen

jimbob005 · 25 July 2008, 18:10

hi all
today i was thinking of starting my new project an a600 laptop i know this has been done.
the thing is linking the laptop screen to the a600 board and one have any ideas on this one?

thanks james

dkovacs · 25 July 2008, 18:21

Use a notebook computer, we have dell one's at our office and there is plenty of room in them for an A600 motherboard, get a PC keyboard adaptor and use a PC keyboard and a scandoubler. Would be very cool.

salax54 · 28 July 2008, 22:56

It would still be a no-no, even if you had the scandoubler. The same would apply even if you tried to hook a plain ol' vanilla PC to it: you wouldn't have anywhere to connect it! Laptop monitors don't have a standard 15-pin VGA input socket, and don't confuse this with the VGA out socket of various laptops! You'd need a backlight supply board and a graphic controller board (after the scandoubler). Not wanting to dissapoint you, but it appears that anyone doing it has the proper circuitry to do it.. (Suzanne for example)

jimbob005 · 29 July 2008, 00:09

but could it be done?

salax54 · 29 July 2008, 00:15

Of course it could, given that you have everything required!
http://www.amigau.com/aig/suzanne.html
Don't ask me how he did it, i have never traced much detail of this project, but indeed it was reviewed (sort of) in CU Amiga Magazine.

Zetr0 · 29 July 2008, 00:51

...yawn....

James..... you ready?!..... heres how to do it....

Go get a 12.1 to 14" LCD Monitor (able to do 1024x768) should be able to find one for around £40,

take the monitor out of the plastics and RF Shielding, keep the VGA plug for the time being.

Now at this point you have a couple of options.

1. Converted DCE External to Internal Scan doubler £85!?!?!?!?++
2. External Made Internal Scan Doubler for £35

the second option (using a hard lined SVideo Hack from the CXA1145) also allows you THREE other inputs, 100 channel RF and composite in?! DVD player perhaps?! and VGA Through port. nifty eh?

so thats the screen sorted, now all you gotta do is house it in a proper perhaps appropriate chassis

I am planning to do this with 2xA600 plastics and a CD32 motherboard with 20GB IDE and IDE SFF Optical Drive.... just need the time....

I am tempted to change the internal SD/FF to one of the units that Jens has built but we shall see... I also have an idea on perhaps a cat weasel for a HD1.44mb slimline floppy

rkauer · 29 July 2008, 04:42

Jens SD is marvellous. Shame he didn't make another NEW external for other Amigas (yet).

alphonsus · 29 July 2008, 07:23

I thought the CD32 CD drive wasn't an IDE device - does the CD32 have an ide interface?

alexh · 29 July 2008, 07:34

Do not forget that LCD panels in laptops do not take analog RGB!

They usually take digital RGB, and not at Amiga TTL style signaling, they used LVDS.

CD32 does not have an IDE CD-Drive.

Zetr0 · 29 July 2008, 11:47

sorry guys should of stated

I am building an cd32 interface that has both an IDE interface as well as connector for standard A1200 Accelerator cards

cosmicfrog · 29 July 2008, 12:09

you are, your talents never cease to amaze me

Zetr0 · 29 July 2008, 14:18

@cosmicfrog

my friend, i have SOooOoOoOooooo many projects its almost hard to keep track of...

earlier this year after a discussion with our dear Alexh, I scribbled down the basics for an interface. I was going to use the AddIDE project to add the IDE, however with the advent of some of the other home-brew IDE projects this is very easily adapter for use in say a CD32.

The adapter itself wont be much more than passive card with perhaps a little bus-handshake but that needs a little more research.. at the moment, I am just finishing off the 2mb Chip upgrade for the A500/A2000 and anything that uses an Agnii really

hope to have that done this weekend,

the CD32 Accelerator adapter ties in nicely with Jame's other A1200 in a A600 chassis project.... hmmm A612 or A126 or A900 (its the difference between 600 and 1200

) as i need to have a certain part(s) fabricated by PCB company, hopefully www.futurelec.com I have to admit, i am impressed with both their product and turn around time!

cosmicfrog · 29 July 2008, 15:14

If only I had all the tea in china then I`d make you a cuppa
until then I`m dreaming dreaming of 1 day haveing some funds to have a bit of hardware with your name on it. May the flux be with you

Photon · 29 July 2008, 15:23

Took ages to get a car lcd tv for my own a600 laptop project, at least to get one without dead pixels - on its way now tho. CBA to rebuild a laptop from scratch, way too much work :P Will report back.

Merlin · 29 July 2008, 20:20

I would also try to incorporate a Pico power supply, so that the laptop runs from a 12v adapter and looks the part.

25 July 2008, 18:10	#1
jimbob005 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: swadlincote, uk Age: 32 Posts: 222	a600 on an laptop screen hi all today i was thinking of starting my new project an a600 laptop i know this has been done. the thing is linking the laptop screen to the a600 board and one have any ideas on this one? thanks james __________________ A600 020@14mhz ks3.0 2mb chip ram aga 1gb cf hdd dvd-rw A1200 1gb cf hdd A1500 trying to fix up

28 July 2008, 22:56	#3
salax54 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 147	It would still be a no-no, even if you had the scandoubler. The same would apply even if you tried to hook a plain ol' vanilla PC to it: you wouldn't have anywhere to connect it! Laptop monitors don't have a standard 15-pin VGA input socket, and don't confuse this with the VGA out socket of various laptops! You'd need a backlight supply board and a graphic controller board (after the scandoubler). Not wanting to dissapoint you, but it appears that anyone doing it has the proper circuitry to do it.. (Suzanne for example) __________________ A1000(x 2) A600 030@42 A1200

29 July 2008, 00:09	#4
jimbob005 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: swadlincote, uk Age: 32 Posts: 222	but could it be done? __________________ A600 020@14mhz ks3.0 2mb chip ram aga 1gb cf hdd dvd-rw A1200 1gb cf hdd A1500 trying to fix up

29 July 2008, 00:15	#5
salax54 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 147	Of course it could, given that you have everything required! http://www.amigau.com/aig/suzanne.html Don't ask me how he did it, i have never traced much detail of this project, but indeed it was reviewed (sort of) in CU Amiga Magazine. __________________ A1000(x 2) A600 030@42 A1200

29 July 2008, 00:51	#6
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 38 Posts: 9,185	...yawn.... James..... you ready?!..... heres how to do it.... Go get a 12.1 to 14" LCD Monitor (able to do 1024x768) should be able to find one for around £40, take the monitor out of the plastics and RF Shielding, keep the VGA plug for the time being. Now at this point you have a couple of options. 1. Converted DCE External to Internal Scan doubler £85!?!?!?!?++ 2. External Made Internal Scan Doubler for £35 the second option (using a hard lined SVideo Hack from the CXA1145) also allows you THREE other inputs, 100 channel RF and composite in?! DVD player perhaps?! and VGA Through port. nifty eh? so thats the screen sorted, now all you gotta do is house it in a proper perhaps appropriate chassis I am planning to do this with 2xA600 plastics and a CD32 motherboard with 20GB IDE and IDE SFF Optical Drive.... just need the time.... I am tempted to change the internal SD/FF to one of the units that Jens has built but we shall see... I also have an idea on perhaps a cat weasel for a HD1.44mb slimline floppy __________________ Luscious Linkie Time:- www.AmiBay.com Old Skooler

25 July 2008, 18:21	#2
dkovacs Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Goderich Ontario Canada Age: 36 Posts: 64	Use a notebook computer, we have dell one's at our office and there is plenty of room in them for an A600 motherboard, get a PC keyboard adaptor and use a PC keyboard and a scandoubler. Would be very cool.

29 July 2008, 04:42	#7
rkauer I hate potatos and shirts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sao Leopoldo / Brazil Age: 47 Posts: 3,477	Jens SD is marvellous. Shame he didn't make another NEW external for other Amigas (yet). __________________ Amigan since 1989 Known drunk since 1982 (don't know quite well, I was drunk) 13 Amigas at home Finally a Z3 one! I'll stick with 'Cachaça do Inter' for this week: Chivas gives headaches! :D

29 July 2008, 07:23	#8
alphonsus Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: UK Age: 39 Posts: 181	I thought the CD32 CD drive wasn't an IDE device - does the CD32 have an ide interface?

29 July 2008, 07:34	#9
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 10,551	Do not forget that LCD panels in laptops do not take analog RGB! They usually take digital RGB, and not at Amiga TTL style signaling, they used LVDS. CD32 does not have an IDE CD-Drive. __________________ Thalion Webshrine

29 July 2008, 11:47	#10
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 38 Posts: 9,185	sorry guys should of stated I am building an cd32 interface that has both an IDE interface as well as connector for standard A1200 Accelerator cards __________________ Luscious Linkie Time:- www.AmiBay.com Old Skooler

29 July 2008, 12:09	#11
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 45 Posts: 3,552	you are, your talents never cease to amaze me __________________ When in dought RIBBIT .... If it dos`t work hit it with a hammer, if that dos`t work get a bigger hammer.......... Have U scen my sanity Pill`s . . . . . . . . . . . . . . // *This Years Software on Last Years Hardware \\//-- Amiga* --**

29 July 2008, 14:18	#12
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 38 Posts: 9,185	@cosmicfrog my friend, i have SOooOoOoOooooo many projects its almost hard to keep track of... earlier this year after a discussion with our dear Alexh, I scribbled down the basics for an interface. I was going to use the AddIDE project to add the IDE, however with the advent of some of the other home-brew IDE projects this is very easily adapter for use in say a CD32. The adapter itself wont be much more than passive card with perhaps a little bus-handshake but that needs a little more research.. at the moment, I am just finishing off the 2mb Chip upgrade for the A500/A2000 and anything that uses an Agnii really hope to have that done this weekend, the CD32 Accelerator adapter ties in nicely with Jame's other A1200 in a A600 chassis project.... hmmm A612 or A126 or A900 (its the difference between 600 and 1200 ) as i need to have a certain part(s) fabricated by PCB company, hopefully www.futurelec.com I have to admit, i am impressed with both their product and turn around time! __________________ Luscious Linkie Time:- www.AmiBay.com Old Skooler

29 July 2008, 15:14	#13
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 45 Posts: 3,552	If only I had all the tea in china then I`d make you a cuppa until then I`m dreaming dreaming of 1 day haveing some funds to have a bit of hardware with your name on it. May the flux be with you __________________ When in dought RIBBIT .... If it dos`t work hit it with a hammer, if that dos`t work get a bigger hammer.......... Have U scen my sanity Pill`s . . . . . . . . . . . . . . // *This Years Software on Last Years Hardware \\//-- Amiga* --**

29 July 2008, 15:23	#14
Photon Oldskool Demo Coder Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hult / Sweden Age: 41 Posts: 3,680	Took ages to get a car lcd tv for my own a600 laptop project, at least to get one without dead pixels - on its way now tho. CBA to rebuild a laptop from scratch, way too much work :P Will report back. __________________ Henrik. Programs Amiga demos, iPhone apps, websites, etc. A1000/512k - A500 2.0/040@28/4M/.5M slowmem/8M/SCSI/CF - A600 portable II 3.1/ACA630/WiFi/CF - 'A1700' 3.1/68060@80/64M/IDE-Fix Express/CF - etc."The difference between PC and Amiga is that 10yo PCs are worth $0. 20yo Amigas are worth a lot, and Amigas that are only 15yo cost a fortune!" If you like Portal 2, try my >> single player and cooperation maps <<

29 July 2008, 20:20	#15
Merlin AmiBay MegaMod Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Manchester, UK Age: 51 Posts: 1,122	I would also try to incorporate a Pico power supply, so that the laptop runs from a 12v adapter and looks the part.

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